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Unread 10 May 2008, 13:54   #1
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We shall Stoom them on the beaches

I have, myself, full confidence that if all do their duty, if nothing is neglected, and if the best arrangements are made, as they are being made, we shall prove ourselves once again able to defend our home in Denial, to roid out the Stoom of war, and to outlive the menace of tyranny, if necessary for days, if necessary alone.

At any rate, that is what we are going to try to do. That is the resolve of Our Wonderful HC Team - every member of it. That is the will of Denial and the nation.

The Denial Alliance and the NoX Republic, linked together in their cause and in their need, will defend to the death their native soil, aiding each other like good comrades to the utmost of their strength.

Even though large tracts of The Top 10 and many old and famous States have fallen or may fall into the grip of the Stoom and all the odious apparatus of Asc rule, we shall not flag or fail.

We shall go on to the end, we shall fight in Space,
we shall roid the the morning and noon,
we shall roid with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our Alliance, whatever the cost may be,
we shall fight on the internet,
we shall bicker on the forum sites,
we shall roid in our homes and in our workplace,
we shall roid in our schools;
we shall never surrender, and even if, which I do not for a moment believe, this Alliance or a large part of it were subjugated and starving, then our time in Real Life, armed and guarded by the great outdoors, would carry on the struggle, until, in God's good time, a new game, with all its graphics and playerbase, steps forth to the rescue and the liberation of the old.

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Re: We shall Stoom them on the beaches

Would it be wrong for me to move this to RP?
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Re: We shall Stoom them on the beaches

I think that's where the other two went.
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which two? :s
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wtf is this? isn't kenny that noob from 1up who didn't know sid? My have you grown.
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Re: We shall Stoom them on the beaches

um Kenny's imagination wandering a wee bit eh ?
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Re: We shall Stoom them on the beaches

I have to say, Kenny's imagination is just about as entertaining as listening to old Hitler speeches post 1933.
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Re: We shall Stoom them on the beaches

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I have, myself, full confidence that if all do their duty, if nothing is neglected, and if the best arrangements are made, as they are being made, we shall prove ourselves once again able to defend our home in Denial, to roid out the Stoom of war, and to outlive the menace of tyranny, if necessary for days, if necessary alone.

At any rate, that is what we are going to try to do. That is the resolve of Our Wonderful HC Team - every member of it. That is the will of Denial and the nation.

The Denial Alliance and the NoX Republic, linked together in their cause and in their need, will defend to the death their native soil, aiding each other like good comrades to the utmost of their strength.

Even though large tracts of The Top 10 and many old and famous States have fallen or may fall into the grip of the Stoom and all the odious apparatus of Asc rule, we shall not flag or fail.

We shall go on to the end, we shall fight in Space,
we shall roid the the morning and noon,
we shall roid with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our Alliance, whatever the cost may be,
we shall fight on the internet,
we shall bicker on the forum sites,
we shall roid in our homes and in our workplace,
we shall roid in our schools;
we shall never surrender, and even if, which I do not for a moment believe, this Alliance or a large part of it were subjugated and starving, then our time in Real Life, armed and guarded by the great outdoors, would carry on the struggle, until, in God's good time, a new game, with all its graphics and playerbase, steps forth to the rescue and the liberation of the old.
Well, thank you so much. I am still fired up and ready to go.

You know, a few weeks ago, no one imagined that we'd have accomplished what we did here tonight in Planetarion. No one could have imagined it.

For most of this campaign, we were far behind. We always knew our climb would be steep. But in record numbers, you came out, and you spoke up for change.

And with your voices and your planets, you made it clear that at this moment, in this round, there is something happening in Planetarion.

There is something happening when men and women in Dublin and Tokyo, in London and Oslo, come out in the middle of the night to launch fleets that stretch galaxy after galaxy because they believe in what this game can be.

There is something happening. There's something happening when players who are young in age and in spirit, who've never participated in politics before, turn out in numbers we have never seen because they know in their hearts that this time must be different.

There's something happening when people play not just for the alliance that they belong to, but the hopes that they hold in common.

And whether we are rich or poor, black or white, Latino or Asian, whether we hail from Ascendancy or Conspiracy Theory, Jenova or NewDawn, we are ready to take this game in a fundamentally new direction.

That's what's happening in Planetarion right now; change is what's happening in Planetarion.

You, all of you who are here tonight, all who put so much heart and soul and work into this campaign, you can be the new majority who can lead this game out of a long political darkness.

And, together, we will begin the next great chapter in the Planetarion story, with three words that will ring from coast to coast, from sea to shining sea: Yes, we can.

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touché, lokken, touché.
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I was expecting : I am rubber, you are glue.
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Was I the only one expecting a link to a youtube speech?
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Re: We shall Stoom them on the beaches

will a moral victory be claimed by denial because they held such a big lead for so long or is your new motto

"we crash because we care"
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you guys have HC's? wtf?
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will a moral victory be claimed by denial because they held such a big lead for so long or is your new motto

"we crash because we care"
I think it's "we crash because we've stopped caring" tbh :P

There is no such thing as a morale victory. There are positives to be taken from the round considering the length of time we were first, but the only 'victory' that counts is 1st place.
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I think it's "we crash because we've stopped caring" tbh :P

There is no such thing as a morale victory. There are positives to be taken from the round considering the length of time we were first, but the only 'victory' that counts is 1st place.
WP said the same r13. xVx said the same a couple of rounds ago.
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Would it be wrong for me to move this to RP?
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The Denial Alliance and the NoX Republic, linked together in their cause and in their need, will defend to the death their native soil, aiding each other like good comrades to the utmost of their strength.

Of your whole speech it was just this little piece I really noticed.
How you belittle and depreciate NoX's role in Denials "success" this round.

In your honest opinion, was NoX ever considered an equal partner by you, or merely just a piece in the puzzle of your glorious fight for the victory?

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The Denial Alliance and the NoX Republic, linked together in their cause and in their need, will defend to the death their native soil, aiding each other like good comrades to the utmost of their strength.
Thats a very good point, so? was Nox's cause to become second place? Did you need each other and was the need for Denial to go for the win while nox's need was to claim a supposedly easy second place? and was nox basically aiding Denial to first place?

There can be no real other conclusion with an alliance like NoX who do not make even the merest attempt to win a round, they were simply there to be extra fleets/cannon fodder of the winning/might be winning alliance.
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Re: We shall Stoom them on the beaches

There is cannon fodder in every war, at least this time it seems that the one who some might consider fodder is doing well and can shut those people up.

and tbh, does it matter if one was fodder? Both alliances worked towards the same ends, one is doing better than the other, but the difference is not dramatic.

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and tbh, does it matter if one was fodder? Both alliances worked towards the same ends, one is doing better than the other, but the difference is not dramatic.
No.. If both were working toward the same end both would have been trying to win the round, Nox clearly were not kthxbye
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Was I the only one expecting a link to a youtube speech?
I was expecting/hoping for one too! Alas, i was dissapointed to not see the hyperlink-of-comedy anywhere in this thread .

But then, i recalled the (original?) Denial call-to-arms and Kenny speaking Churchill's words, and i laughed anyway.

I love it. Kenny, keep them coming .



Lokken, who are you quoting/paraphrasing/mimicking? I thought it would have been Martin Luthor King, but its not. Is it something Obama said (or better yet, his pastor ) or something?
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It's Obama's New Hampshire speach.
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We shall go on to the end, we shall fight in Space,
we shall roid the the morning and noon,
we shall roid with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our Alliance, whatever the cost may be,
we shall fight on the internet,
we shall bicker on the forum sites,
we shall roid in our homes and in our workplace,
we shall roid in our schools;
we shall never surrender, and even if, which I do not for a moment believe, this Alliance or a large part of it were subjugated and starving, then our time in Real Life, armed and guarded by the great outdoors, would carry on the struggle, until, in God's good time, a new game, with all its graphics and playerbase, steps forth to the rescue and the liberation of the old.
I'm trying to work out a melody for that song of yours, but I just can't find one suiting. At least it wasn't that shitty "we shall not be moved"-crap everyone and their kitchen sink sings over in England nowadays
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I'm trying to work out a melody for that song of yours, but I just can't find one suiting. At least it wasn't that shitty "we shall not be moved"-crap everyone and their kitchen sink sings over in England nowadays
If you're referring to what you quoted, that isn't a song.

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whats so clever about quoting some1 elses speech and changing a few words to make it topical?

RP that way ---->
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whats so clever about quoting some1 elses speech and changing a few words to make it topical?
It's called Parody. And it's typically done for humor, such as this case...
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Re: We shall Stoom them on the beaches

Making those youtube things is so nerdy that it's not even funny. Same thing with being cocky on the internet over some damned internet browsed game that's easy as shit to play if you're rl allows you to be active enough.

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Making those youtube things is so nerdy that it's not even funny. Same thing with being cocky on the internet over some damned internet browsed game that's easy as shit to play if you're rl allows you to be active enough.

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Get a rl.
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Making those youtube things is so nerdy that it's not even funny. Same thing with being cocky on the internet over some damned internet browsed game that's easy as shit to play if you're rl allows you to be active enough.

My advise.

Get a rl.
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Don't present your opinions as truth, cause they are really only your opinions. I love those videos.. Actually laughed out loud.

And by playing this game you should be careful with telling people they are nerdy. People who live in glass houses and all that..
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Making those youtube things is so nerdy that it's not even funny.
A little over a decade ago, people who used computers were considered to be nerdy as hell. Do you use a computer on a daily basis? Now, though, it's standard. Mabye you're just behind on the technology resouces curve?
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A little over a decade ago, people who used computers were considered to be nerdy as hell. Do you use a computer on a daily basis? Now, though, it's standard. Mabye you're just behind on the technology resouces curve?
So, by your own admission, being behind the 'technology resources curve' makes you un-nerdy, thus him perceiving something that is presently ahead of the 'technology resources curve' as being nerdy actually is nerdy right up until the time that it isnt. Which means, making youtube video things when its not nerdy to do so (or when its "cool") is perfectly fine and not nerdy, whilst making youtube things when it is still defined as nerdy would mean that you're being a nerd.

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So, by your own admission, being behind the 'technology resources curve' makes you un-nerdy
Actually, he didn't say that.
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Don't present your opinions as truth, cause they are really only your opinions.
That's nonsense.

This is an internet forum where people express their opinions. They express those opinions in the belief that they represent the truth (as that person sees it).


You should accept that while you might find Kenny's videos hilarious, other people might not. In fact, you're presenting your own opinion as the truth as opposed to his - isn't that exactly what you're (mistakenly) condemning?
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That's nonsense.

This is an internet forum where people express their opinions. They express those opinions in the belief that they represent the truth (as that person sees it).


You should accept that while you might find Kenny's videos hilarious, other people might not. In fact, you're presenting your own opinion as the truth as opposed to his - isn't that exactly what you're (mistakenly) condemning?
Awesome to be talked about in my absense etc.

And you're wrong furball, buly was stating that "the videos ARE nerdy" or that I was nerdy - I didn't spend too long reading into his post - thus portraying his views as 'fact'. Whereas CP said "he loved the videos", expressing his opinion specifically AS opinion.

'From my understanding' (lol), people arguing on the internet believing what they say to be the unarguable truth is the kind of close-minded ignorance that pollutes society and will eventually lead to us losing our opposable thumbs.
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And you're wrong furball, buly was stating that "the videos ARE nerdy" or that I was nerdy - I didn't spend too long reading into his post - thus portraying his views as 'fact'. Whereas CP said "he loved the videos", expressing his opinion specifically AS opinion.
So now to post on the internet you need to preface your own posts with the disclaimer that they're just your opinion? Can't see that happening any day soon.

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'From my understanding' (lol), people arguing on the internet believing what they say to be the unarguable truth is the kind of close-minded ignorance that pollutes society and will eventually lead to us losing our opposable thumbs.
2 + 2 = 4

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2 + 2 = 4
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Hey I heard Denial 'won' a FC and still didnt gain score on 'me'! How did that happen Kenny... 2 nights left to stoom them on the beaches eh you worthless piece of shit!

Oh, you leaving Denial doesnt make you any less shit though!
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Loving how Stoom is so diplomatic

I don't even want to know why Asc changed to the name StoomTheRevival, but with his name replacing Asc it coincides with the big headed front that Asc and Stoom portray!

As for the FC, just a "well done, you knocked our #1 player out of top 10" would of sufficed.

Also the FC hasn't had an effect because its hard for Denial to deal with ND/CT/Jenova incs aswell as Stoom's! and before you go bragging, try getting Stoom to launch 1st wave on Denial planets rather than letting ND take the brunt of the early defence ships so you can have an easier time of it.

ND do make good puppets though it has to be said
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Hey I heard Denial 'won' a FC and still didnt gain score on 'me'! How did that happen Kenny... 2 nights left to stoom them on the beaches eh you worthless piece of shit!

Oh, you leaving Denial doesnt make you any less shit though!
I'd call 3.7mil attacker to 10.6mil defenders losses "won" if thats infact what u were trying to dispute. Reason we didnt gain was because 2 of our "worthless piece of shit" members decided to defend stoom against their own ally on said fleet catch and left before land.

For future reference to other ally HC's, don't let the likes of D3coy or Typhoon anywhere near ur ally. Nearly as big a mistake as letting Kenny have his forum account back before the round ended.

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Loving how Stoom is so diplomatic

I don't even want to know why Asc changed to the name StoomTheRevival, but with his name replacing Asc it coincides with the big headed front that Asc and Stoom portray!

As for the FC, just a "well done, you knocked our #1 player out of top 10" would of sufficed.

Also the FC hasn't had an effect because its hard for Denial to deal with ND/CT/Jenova incs aswell as Stoom's! and before you go bragging, try getting Stoom to launch 1st wave on Denial planets rather than letting ND take the brunt of the early defence ships so you can have an easier time of it.

ND do make good puppets though it has to be said
Oh shut up you moron. Denial sucks ass and you know it.

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I'd call 3.7mil attacker to 10.6mil defenders losses "won" if thats infact what u were trying to dispute. Reason we didnt gain was because 2 of our "worthless piece of shit" members decided to defend stoom against their own ally on said fleet catch and left before land.

For future reference to other ally HC's, don't let the likes of D3coy or Typhoon anywhere near ur ally. Nearly as big a mistake as letting Kenny have his forum account back before the round ended.

Anyway congrats Ascendancy.
I indeed tried to call it a win for you guys. Though alot of the def died there was ingal, I think we lost about 2 mln value after salvage.
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As for the FC, just a "well done, you knocked our #1 player out of top 10" would of sufficed.
Sandmans says Denial 'lost' the fleetcatch (Den down more than Asc). Wanting to be congratulated for this implies that Denial no longer want/think they can win as an alliance. Is this a fair assessment?

EDIT: It seems I was wrong and the BC actually won. Well played by the BC in that case. On the other hand, the value losses from defence is hilarious. :thup:


It doesn't look like NewDawn are being used as puppets; we tried to win & failed. ND enjoy a good fight and having good targets to hit. The alternative is to sit around doing nothing, and I think ND will gain enjoyment from helping defeat their round-long rivals. Assuming ND want to maximise utility, this is a sensible, self-centred choice.
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I love the way how you call me names, yet you have not once disputed one thing that i said!

Congrats on your gameplan Asc

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try getting Stoom to launch 1st wave on Denial planets rather than letting ND take the brunt of the early defence ships so you can have an easier time of it.
This is just untrue.

And I'd try and avoid getting on the high and mighty we didn't block the universe chair when half of the value on that fc didn't even come from denial.

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Good thing you instantly recruited two new members the exact same tick though! Obviously those two weren't attacking with you or defending or in any way acting like support planets in the previous days though
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Here's something to dispute;
Denial has been with NoX all round (top 2 alliances FYI)
Asc gets hit by 6 allies one night, decides to fight back.
We get 4 others to hit Denial for one night.
After that its pretty much been Asc/ND vs. NoX/Denial, besides a few team ups on each side.

And yeah, we still win...
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JBG, the attacks on Xzars planet, which is probably the most important of the night, was 1st waved by ND. True

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JBG, the attacks on Xzars planet, which is probably the most important of the night, was 1st waved by ND. True

I'm not high and mighty, slightly high, but not mighty
Tbh, that was like what? day 3 of the ptargetting? Seriously you can't call that a major event.
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Stoom that is utter bollocks!!!
for starters, your alliance complains about one nights roiding, its roids, they come and go, pretty sure value wasn't dented a whole lot.

Also please don't say that its been Asc/ND vs Denial/NoX, because you know it hasn't, its been Asc/ND/CT/Jenova vs Denial/NoX, with the majority of fleets heading towards the Denial side, although im sure NoX has had its fair share.

Yeah you've pretty much won, but don't try and sugar coat your win by saying its been even, because its far from the truth
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1120 was the first landing tick for both of us actually. And considering it got zero def...
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