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Unread 8 Nov 2007, 12:21   #1
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New approach to shuffle

We've all seen the issue with inactives landing in the universe. I suggest a new approach to the shuffle.

When signing up everyone gets stacked in 200: galaxies, and when shuffle occurs, each buddypack gets put into a gal, and all the randoms gets put into the universe as they login at random.
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Unread 8 Nov 2007, 12:29   #2
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Re: New approach to suffle

wont that making it rather easy to for ppl to "flag" all bps and what planets are in them?
with the bps and random making up the gal at least there's a few planets to choose from.
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Unread 8 Nov 2007, 12:35   #3
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Re: New approach to suffle

Well, the biggest issue here is the way i see it, not the "security" of the buddypacks, but more the chance of avoiding getting lots of galaxies filled with dead planets from the start, which I see as a somewhat bigger handicap.

The buddy packs nowadays mostly consist of 2-3 alliances or more, so the "security issue" is already compromised before the ticks start.
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Re: New approach to suffle

Good idea.
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Unread 8 Nov 2007, 15:36   #5
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Re: New approach to suffle

Usually, I argue with just about every suggestion in here, but this one, I really dont mind one bit.

Good stuff Kargool
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Unread 8 Nov 2007, 16:01   #6
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Re: New approach to suffle

Given that buddypack members are supposed to sort of hide within galaxies instead of sticking out like a sore thumb, I'm not sure if this is the best idea.

Players with less than 30 asteroids on signup aren't supposed to be included in the shuffle anyway and are left in cluster 200. If there's a problem with inactives being shuffled into galaxies then maybe some other approach needs to be taken instead of leaving people out of buddy packs in cluster 200.

I agree that more action needs to be taken against dead planets, but this would cause problems for other people as well.
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Re: New approach to suffle

This isn't nesseccarily better, it's just different.
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Re: New approach to suffle

damn i thought this was a cooking guide when i read the thread title
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Re: New approach to suffle

I'm not convinced. As GReaper said:


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Given that buddypack members are supposed to sort of hide within galaxies instead of sticking out like a sore thumb, I'm not sure if this is the best idea.
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Re: New approach to suffle

it also opens up for the option of ppl starting to "predict" where they will end up and log in to try and end up in specific gals
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Re: New approach to suffle

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I agree that more action needs to be taken against dead planets, but this would cause problems for other people as well.
Randoms that never log in after shuffle won't care if they don't get a galaxy. Planets can't get hit in c200, which is good for non-players and low activity randoms (until such time that they log in again. When active randoms sign in for the first time after shuffle, they get a planet wth a buddypack, which is good for the buddypack and the active randoms. Buddypacks get active instead of inactive randoms in their gals, which is good for everyone.

Yes, people will know which players are in buddypacks. Big deal. This will help gathering intel.. how? There's enough alliance players without buddypacks to make excluding random planets a useless waste of time. Second, there's enough alliance players that create buddypacks with players of other alliances, making intel grouping by buddypack equally useless.

Is there any group of players I've missed?
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Unread 9 Nov 2007, 18:17   #12
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Re: New approach to suffle

The entire inactive players and exiling issue needs evaluating anyway, I'd say this problem goes further than just the initial shuffle.

Once an idle player logs in after the shuffle the problem starts again, making the suggestion not that useful.
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Re: New approach to suffle

I have to agree with GReaper. The main problem is not complete inactives, the problem is people who sign up planets, log into them occassionally but do not really play. They land in your gal, don't timeout, you finally exile them, they sit in c200 until they log on again just for the heck of it and then they become someone elses problem, the cycle continues until they stop occassionally logging into their account.

Unfortunately there really isnt a solution to this.
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Re: New approach to suffle

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Given that buddypack members are supposed to sort of hide within galaxies instead of sticking out like a sore thumb, I'm not sure if this is the best idea.
Usually you look at GC and Ministers and you have a pretty good idea of the BPs. If the suggestion can prevent from having such differences in quality of random planets allocated at shuffle, I'm all for it.
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Re: New approach to shuffle

What about the planets that join your gal t102 and hit vacation mode while in protection then stop playing?
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Re: New approach to shuffle

Exile them?
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Re: New approach to shuffle

I don't think a radical change is required. Some minor improvements could be made though. A planet in vacation mode should exile the next tick when set to unwanted. Planets that sign up should not be assigned to a galaxy until they log in.
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Re: New approach to shuffle

good idea, to modify slightly


at t36 bp's to gals
random logins to t55

Shuffle all above at tick 56, allow name change to occur for all (bps, randoms, c200)

any random logins after t56 get placed into gals without buddypacks
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Re: New approach to shuffle

hi Kargool if u read this i have a confession, i slept with Thor, just wanted to say i hope u can forgive me i know how much Thor means to you, sorry man.

oh and i think the shufle thing is a good idea!
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