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Unread 23 Sep 2009, 19:18   #51
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Re: Explanations of new closure rules by MHs, plz?

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either way, has cardinal given anyone a reason for logging in from a completely dutch browser? not that he has to or anything, but this 'argument' isn't going to go anywhere without at least one party giving their side
when he was talking in #trans he said he couldnt remember the weekend in question
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Unread 23 Sep 2009, 21:37   #52
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Re: Explanations of new closure rules by MHs, plz?

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Cardi has been permanently banned from the forums for repeated racism, and the MHs are not allowed to publish details pertaining to cases, closed or otherwise, so I guess no actual information will be forthcoming.
He's also got himself a perm ban from #planetarion, iirc for similar reasons.
he really isnt the sort of person you want to be trying to defend, wishmaster.
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Unread 23 Sep 2009, 22:34   #53
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Re: Explanations of new closure rules by MHs, plz?

I thought i made it perfectly clear when i said that there was no foreign IP that logged into his account.

A dutch browser is NOT a ****ing dutch IP! its like downloading firefox and choose chinese language... wait dont do it, you get closed.

Next thing i will be closed too, for loggin in with my phone.
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Unread 23 Sep 2009, 22:45   #54
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Re: Explanations of new closure rules by MHs, plz?

If that stops the constant complaining, I hope they do it.
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Re: Explanations of new closure rules by MHs, plz?

I use about 6 different browsers (if you also include versions) per round, and in at least three languages, more on some rounds if I go on a trip. I'm not even going to try and count IPs. Never heard anything about it, so it must be something else than a simple different language. I doubt they would close anybody over just 1 little thing like that, so just be a good boy and assume it wasn't the only thing going on.
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Unread 24 Sep 2009, 08:55   #56
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I use about 6 different browsers (if you also include versions) per round, and in at least three languages, more on some rounds if I go on a trip. I'm not even going to try and count IPs. Never heard anything about it, so it must be something else than a simple different language. I doubt they would close anybody over just 1 little thing like that, so just be a good boy and assume it wasn't the only thing going on.
But cardi said that was the only reason. And I think we all know we can trust everything cardi says.
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Unread 24 Sep 2009, 10:09   #57
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Re: Explanations of new closure rules by MHs, plz?

I don't know why, but i have been humming along the lines of a certain Shaggy song since i started reading this thread.
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I don't know why, but i have been humming along the lines of a certain Shaggy song since i started reading this thread.
What does Boombastic have to do with this?
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What does Boombastic have to do with this?
You got two more guesses left
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Unread 25 Sep 2009, 03:37   #60
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Re: Explanations of new closure rules by MHs, plz?

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He's also got himself a perm ban from #planetarion, iirc for similar reasons.
he really isnt the sort of person you want to be trying to defend, wishmaster.
I honestly dont care man. If someone are banned from an irc chan, then MAN, they must be the scum of the earth!
Also, I think cardi cheated. I have never said anything else. I just want to know the reason for the closure, since its new to me that, THINKING someone cheated is a closure reason. Also, its new for me that they wait 600 ticks. Also its new to me that MH pms him, saying he WILL close him, then wait a couple of days before he does so. Also its new to me that MHs pms someone and tell them that they will wait to close them till his def has landed.
Has this been the case in prev rounds?
I remember several situations where it wasnt.

What I want, which I think I said in the OP ( god you guys suck ) is a clarification on the rules. I want to be sure so that I dont get closed if I ever get a paki friend and login to pa from his paki browser. ( I guess befriending him would make me deserve a closure, I dont know )

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Re: Explanations of new closure rules by MHs, plz?

I am sure nobody thought of that >_<
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Also, I think cardi cheated. I have never said anything else. I just want to know the reason for the closure, since its new to me that, THINKING someone cheated is a closure reason.
He wasn't closed because they 'THINK' he cheats. He was closed because the evidence pointed towards it, and the explanation offered was stupid.

Beyond reasonable doubt Wishmaster...
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Re: Explanations of new closure rules by MHs, plz?

Wishmaster in prev rounds I believe MH's have waited to close people after their def has landed as not to penalise the person that they are defending.
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what would be a nice change is that MH actually responded to this thread and gave a response..
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He wasn't closed because they 'THINK' he cheats. He was closed because the evidence pointed towards it, and the explanation offered was stupid.

Beyond reasonable doubt Wishmaster...
so the fact that cardi is a retard and unable to think of a good excuse, he is to be closed?

HE could just have said: "oh, had a dutch mate over that day, I must have used his computer, I remember he had a weird browser. I didnt know I had to tell the MHs since he doesnt play PA himself. I am sorry"

I would have gone with that one! And I would have stayed open. You cant close people cause of shit like this, you need guidelines.
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Wishmaster in prev rounds I believe MH's have waited to close people after their def has landed as not to penalise the person that they are defending.
really? what if they are attacking? Wait till he lands if he is attacking with someone else?

Again, simple guielines, let there be no doubt what will happen if someone are closed!!!
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Re: Explanations of new closure rules by MHs, plz?

Are you complaining because the multihunters were considerate enough not to close cardi while he had a fleet out defending? Because that's pretty epic if you are.
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so the fact that cardi is a retard and unable to think of a good excuse, he is to be closed?
If someone doesn't have a reason they get closed yes.

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HE could just have said: "oh, had a dutch mate over that day, I must have used his computer, I remember he had a weird browser. I didnt know I had to tell the MHs since he doesnt play PA himself. I am sorry"

I would have gone with that one! And I would have stayed open. You cant close people cause of shit like this, you need guidelines.
Wishmaster you are talking complete crap. Beyond reasonable doubt...

You know he cheated Wishmaster, all you are doing here is making noise for the sake of it.
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what would be a nice change is that MH actually responded to this thread and gave a response..
Point is they cant. They arnt allowed to discuss the case with anyone other then the person(s) involved. Hence why you get people moan to their members of the alliance going 'they have set me up, i havent cheated' blah blah blah every round becuase the MH cant actually explain to others, you will just have to put trust in them that they are doing their job correctly. And in this case i think they did, however, i wouldnt of let cardi re-signup so quickly, and also allowed him to have the right to be a late signup in another heavy apprime gal. But maybe thats just me...
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Point is they cant. They arnt allowed to discuss the case with anyone other then the person(s) involved. Hence why you get people moan to their members of the alliance going 'they have set me up, i havent cheated' blah blah blah every round becuase the MH cant actually explain to others, you will just have to put trust in them that they are doing their job correctly. And in this case i think they did, however, i wouldnt of let cardi re-signup so quickly, and also allowed him to have the right to be a late signup in another heavy apprime gal. But maybe thats just me...
the OP was never about a specific case ( or well it was, but they could have answered on a general basis )
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Are you complaining because the multihunters were considerate enough not to close cardi while he had a fleet out defending? Because that's pretty epic if you are.
Yes, I do. If they recall some fleets, while let others keep their fleets going, its not correct.

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Wishmaster you are talking complete crap. Beyond reasonable doubt...

You know he cheated Wishmaster, all you are doing here is making noise for the sake of it.
I dont agree, I THINK he cheated, I dont know if he cheated. Cant see why people dont want set guidelines, I really dont. Rules should be simple, and equal for all.
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And in this case i think they did, however, i wouldnt of let cardi re-signup so quickly, and also allowed him to have the right to be a late signup in another heavy apprime gal. But maybe thats just me...
Actually, as soon as the convict accepts the punishment the case gets closed and he may signup a new planet. It´s in the rules, man
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I dont agree, I THINK he cheated, I dont know if he cheated. Cant see why people dont want set guidelines, I really dont. Rules should be simple, and equal for all.
Because then people will attempt to 'twist' these rules and guidelines to get away with cheating, believe it or not, this game isn't made fun by 'rules'.

I'd much prefer the multihunters were allowed to use a common sense and educated opinions in closing cheats. Rather than having people like you ranting and raving because someones shoddy excuse isn't accepted.
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Point is they cant. They arnt allowed to discuss the case with anyone other then the person(s) involved. Hence why you get people moan to their members of the alliance going 'they have set me up, i havent cheated' blah blah blah every round becuase the MH cant actually explain to others, you will just have to put trust in them that they are doing their job correctly. And in this case i think they did, however, i wouldnt of let cardi re-signup so quickly, and also allowed him to have the right to be a late signup in another heavy apprime gal. But maybe thats just me...
In that light, it would perhaps be better if the facts about cases were made public once they've been closed.
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Yes, I do. If they recall some fleets, while let others keep their fleets going, its not correct.
I haven't heard of them recalling any fleets when closing people recently. I'd imagine they changed the way they do this. Of course it's a cardinal sin that they forgot to include you on the mailing list over such a vital and earth-shattering change of affairs. I have written them a strongly worded letter outlining my displeasure at this and I imagine you'll be pleased to know that in line with your style of completely retarded over the top reactions to things I have filed a writ with the International Criminal Court, from whom I have received personal assurances that this case will be given the high level of consideration it so dearly deserves.



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I haven't heard of them recalling any fleets when closing people recently. I'd imagine they changed the way they do this. Of course it's a cardinal sin that they forgot to include you on the mailing list over such a vital and earth-shattering change of affairs. I have written them a strongly worded letter outlining my displeasure at this and I imagine you'll be pleased to know that in line with your style of completely retarded over the top reactions to things I have filed a writ with the International Criminal Court, from whom I have received personal assurances that this case will be given the high level of consideration it so dearly deserves.



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I like how u take one rather insignificant thing out of the context, and make it all about that. You know aswell as I do that that isnt the point of this thread.

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So why did you bring it up? **** knows what your actual point is anyways

"I don't actually know anything about the multihunters and why they closed cardi beyond what he told me BUT IT'S NOT RIGHT AND I KNOWS IT AND THEY'RE JUST HATING US BECAUSE WE'RE GR8 OH MAN IT'S JUST NOT FAIR AND THE PAIN IS TOO MUCH AND I CAN'T TAKE IT AND IT'S GONE TOO FAR AND THIS IS THE FINAL STRAW AND IT'S UNBELIEVABLE AND PLEASE STAND STILL WHILE I THROW MY RATTLE AT YOU."
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Actually, as soon as the convict accepts the punishment the case gets closed and he may signup a new planet. It´s in the rules, man
Yes but it didnt use to be. You could re-signup but only after the origonal account had naturally deleted. Btw, anyone know what alliance is responsible for currently spamming using loads of different nicks my scanners on irc at the moment? Ive just got around 100 pms myself within 30 seconds bombing me out of irc. Good tactics...


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I thought i made it perfectly clear when i said that there was no foreign IP that logged into his account.

A dutch browser is NOT a ****ing dutch IP! its like downloading firefox and choose chinese language... wait dont do it, you get closed.

Next thing i will be closed too, for loggin in with my phone.
So if cardi still logged in from his own IP, why would he suddenly have a dutch browser then.

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Of course it's a cardinal sin that they forgot to include you on the mailing list over such a vital and earth-shattering change of affairs..
No idea if it was intentional but I see what you did there.
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So if cardi still logged in from his own IP, why would he suddenly have a dutch browser then.

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So why did you bring it up? **** knows what your actual point is anyways

"I don't actually know anything about the multihunters and why they closed cardi beyond what he told me BUT IT'S NOT RIGHT AND I KNOWS IT AND THEY'RE JUST HATING US BECAUSE WE'RE GR8 OH MAN IT'S JUST NOT FAIR AND THE PAIN IS TOO MUCH AND I CAN'T TAKE IT AND IT'S GONE TOO FAR AND THIS IS THE FINAL STRAW AND IT'S UNBELIEVABLE AND PLEASE STAND STILL WHILE I THROW MY RATTLE AT YOU."
if u intend to be a complete and utter retard, then I might aswell put u on ignore. I have stated over and over what the intentions of this thread were. if u fail to really get the point, ur more retarded than I thought u were.
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and why the **** isnt jbgs 2nd post deleted and he banned?
oh wait, its jbg.

I forgot that lokken is the mod here.

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Hey Wishmaster, this is PD, not AD!
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hehe.
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Being figurative thus I consider it entirely my discretion as to whether it's offensive (and yes I thought about it!). And lets face it, the whole tone of the post suggests he frowns on such activity. For the record I've been pretty lenient on this thread as there are some fantastic put downs from both sides. If you were complaining that JBG was being overly aggressive in attacking you, I might agree but you seem to want to give as good as you get.

Haven't had a bias allegation in ages though, thanks
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and why the **** isnt jbgs 2nd post deleted and he banned?
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I forgot that lokken is the mod here.

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Its not just porn out there man, you can download dutch browsers too.
Yeah, surely someone who doesn't speak dutch or have any good relations to the netherlands would download a dutch browser, use it one time to login to pa and then never use it again.

It's quite obvious that he cheated, and that you guys stick up for him trying to explain his "innocence" is quite horrific tbfh.

Get over it and stop BP'ing notorious cheaters..

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the MHs are not allowed to publish details pertaining to cases, closed or otherwise, so I guess no actual information will be forthcoming.
But presumably the MHs could make a blanket statement along the lines of "We do not close accounts merely for using specific browsers" or some such. It wouldn't give any details of why any one account was closed, but it would address the flaming aimed at the MH team.

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Re: Explanations of new closure rules by MHs, plz?

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But presumably the MHs could make a blanket statement along the lines of "We do not close accounts merely for using specific browsers" or some such. It wouldn't give any details of why any one account was closed, but it would address the flaming aimed at the MH team.
Yeah, and they could also post in this topic "someone got closed for VNC use", and clearly we'd never know who they were talking about! Also, what flaming?
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Re: Explanations of new closure rules by MHs, plz?

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Yeah, and they could also post in this topic "someone got closed for VNC use", and clearly we'd never know who they were talking about! Also, what flaming?
"someone got closed for..." is a comment about a specific case. Making it clear what they do or do not close people for is a general statement which as a side effect would clear up some of the arguing in this thread.

As to my comment about flaming the MH...
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This thread isnt about cardi cheating or not.
Its about incompetent MHs and lack of guidelines.
Doesn't that count?
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