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Unread 8 Mar 2008, 02:46   #1
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Round 26 Announcement

75 Player limit huh? Kudos on bringing back the support planet rule though, great stuff. No really, I'm all in favour of it. "What you see is what you get". Just how it should be.

The 4-man BP rule will probably piss folk off who've already got 5-man BPs.

What's this gonna mean for alliances struggling to get 60 members?

Are the improvements to the defence mechanisms in the alliance tag going to be of help? Will this pave the way for the inclusion of having Alliance names on the galaxy overview?

Why hasn't there been anything concerning the input of funds into an alliance?

Bring on R26.
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Re: Round 26 Announcement

It is what it is. Recruit to win baby.

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Re: Round 26 Announcement

imo, was a bit stupid to raise the limit again. With a 60 member limit u got 3 new allies starting up this round (wasnt that the intention of lowering it?) and 2 returning (tof/jen), surely this is just undoing the progress made allywise from last round, how many of these 5 allies wuda bothered if the limit was going to be 75?

edit: The other changes were good.
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Re: Round 26 Announcement

Most retarded bit was that they added more late sign-ups. I've heard the argument for them, goes something like "it's been very popular". Well, duh! Any competitive BP wants to have as many priv players as they can get(scratch that, HAS TO HAVE) in order to be able to compete, problem is who the hell wants to start 2 weeks behind the rest of his BP? How are you going to convince one of the 5 you've allready got lined up that "oh, sorry, you're starting 2 weeks behind the rest of us, so you'll be unable to participate fully in attacks, defence, wars or pretty much anything else"?

Face it, 33% of the alliance memberships aren't held up for 2 weeks at the start and thus unable to play that time. There is no reason for these retarded late sign-ups. /me goes off to scream at Appoco
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Re: Round 26 Announcement

Any chance only the 50\60 tops planets in an alliance can get counted scorewise?
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Re: Round 26 Announcement

yeah 75 member limits... thats great, realy needed when most alliances have a hard time filling up 60?

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Re: Round 26 Announcement

it is way too much for the new alliances, but there where alliances last round keeping ppl out of tag..
xvx had their 2nd tag aswell.. if those alliances would say no to recruits instead of getting out of tag support mayb then you had it easier filling up those spots..

the 4ppl bps means we get smaller gals aswell?? i like 10ppl in gal..
more gals with less ppl is better.. problem you have is the gals that disband, where ya gonna put those players in then...
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Re: Round 26 Announcement

tbh, i see the logic in returning the support planet rule (but only just) as lets face it last round it was a free for all especially with alliances choosing to keep swopping planets in and out of tag which could boost their score. But, why the bluddy hell would you implement this AND increase the tag by another 15 members? it makes no sense to me.

And as somone said above we have a lot of newer alliances coming into the game, youll probably find now a lot of their players run to alliances such as Newdawn who won as they now have heard they can recuit another 15 members to count to their tag. Its stupid guys.. really is. Whole point of lowering the limit for the past.. what 3-4 rounds? Was to introduce more alliances into the game, and now its anounced 4 might be coming into this game you make the limit bigger then it has been for many rounds.. genious!

Plus what the heck is with the 3 week gap? I think everyone may say 'oh shut up you know more then anyone in PA there is no .. (cant think of the word here which means it should be the same every round)' but fact is, one round you make it so alliances only have a week to prepare before the round starts, (was that 2 rounds ago?) this round was a bit longer... now almost a month? anyway rant over off to work.
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Unread 8 Mar 2008, 10:03   #9
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Re: Round 26 Announcement

I'd think the extra time would be helpful as alliances now need to get another 15 members joining?

Also allows the stats to be done properly, as tbh I had no idea the rounds followed so shortly upon each other and was focusing on playing the game during the round as opposed to diverging a huge lump of my time into the stats.
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Re: Round 26 Announcement

tbh if you are going to put the limits back up to 75 where does that leave alliances like TGV that have not had full tag for either of the last 2 rounds but are still pretty good alliances playerwise? atm its going to be a battle of recruitment, perhaps the alliance winner should be done based upon another measure rather than solely on counted score, perhaps the average score could have just as much weight in alliance rankings. rankings based on counted score would favor recruiting alliances while ranking based on the average would favor smaller alliances, if some way of combining these two (or possibly other measures) then perhaps smaller alliances would have more chance.
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Re: Round 26 Announcement

4 man bp's + 2 signups able to come in gal = 6 man bp!
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Re: Round 26 Announcement

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4 man bp's + 2 signups able to come in gal = 6 man bp!
GREAT SCOTT! NOBODY NOTICED THAT BEFORE! THAT'S FAR BETTER THAN THE 5+1 WE HAD THIS ROUND!

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Re: Round 26 Announcement

75 man alliance is retarded at this point in pa.
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Re: Round 26 Announcement

I agree having 2 late signups is silly, as surely its supposed to be for ppl who cant make it to the start, or to introduce new ppl to the game rather than to force some ppl who are already playing to delay their signing up. My galaxy in r25 did manage to get someone to sign up for the late sign up, however he was so inactive he was deleted before the end of the round! I cant imagine we would be able to find 2 new ppl.
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Re: Round 26 Announcement

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Plus what the heck is with the 3 week gap? I think everyone may say 'oh shut up you know more then anyone in PA there is no .. (cant think of the word here which means it should be the same every round)' but fact is, one round you make it so alliances only have a week to prepare before the round starts, (was that 2 rounds ago?) this round was a bit longer... now almost a month? anyway rant over off to work.
The time between the rounds (r25 and 26) were extended by 1 week because the 21st would be easter, and some might have noticed there's been nothing said about a beta. This is because our server crashed and we've had no chance of doing testing.
Hopefully this extra week allows for ppl to actually take part in the round despite having to go away for easter, it can provide alliances and players with more time to adjust to the changes and it should allow us to actually get some testing done.
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The time between the rounds (r25 and 26) were extended by 1 week because the 21st would be easter, and some might have noticed there's been nothing said about a beta. This is because our server crashed and we've had no chance of doing testing.
Hopefully this extra week allows for ppl to actually take part in the round despite having to go away for easter, it can provide alliances and players with more time to adjust to the changes and it should allow us to actually get some testing done.
and why did u feel the need for a 75 member limit for alliances?
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I agree on the easter timing making sense. Id still still to hear the reasoning behind the other changes though.
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Re: Round 26 Announcement

Another demonstration of PA Team's incompatibility with the words "long term vision".
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Re: Round 26 Announcement

60 member limit made r25 a close top 5, if anything the limit should go down but i guess pa team want stagnation and an alliance running away with the win from day 1.
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nothing more then expected tbh, Pa team have been doing this for a while now
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Re: Round 26 Announcement

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My galaxy in r25 did manage to get someone to sign up for the late sign up, however he was so inactive he was deleted before the end of the round! I cant imagine we would be able to find 2 new ppl.
then we had more luck, founded some1 who sked Germania and he ended almost top100
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then we had more luck, founded some1 who sked Germania and he ended almost top100
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but seriously this late sign up thing is supposed to encourage new players but buddypacks wont sign up new players cos thats too much of a gamble - U dont know if they will be active, they will just look for old players or force some unfortunates who would have started at the start to start later
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I wonder if they'll be able to admit they were wrong and reduce tag size back to 60. That'd be nice.

No offense, but you're KILLING a SH*TLOAD of alliances.
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Re: Round 26 Announcement

We've played around with the alliance limits several times now. I believe that the last reduction (to 60) was a step too far. Alliances need to have a large enough pool of players from which to select officers.

I think that 75 is as good a number as any to see what effect reversing the recent trend has on the game.
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No offense, but you're KILLING a SH*TLOAD of alliances.
No offense, but weren't those alliances doomed to fail sooner rather than later? "Good" alliances will keep a decent/good core of players no matter what the alliance limit is set to. It might not be enough to compete for the top spot, but i'm sure any alliance could create some action (be it for the top spot or some other goal) for themselves if they wanted to. If all you want is to win with your alliance, there are only limited options to choose from anyway, because regardless of tag limt, there will always only be a few alliances actually competing for the win.

I really can't believe that forcing players to leave/not join the tag they want to play with will gain any alliance some form of benefit. Sure, it might mean you have enough planets to get a nice score, but is that all you are after? You'll get much better members from players who actually wanted to join your alliance, instead of being forced to join it because its the least shit next available option.

Alliances are currently dying because there is hardly anyone who wants to (or can / is decent enough to) run them, increasing the amount of alliances by reducing their tag size isn't going to help any of that. And the reason for some alliances always managing to fill up their tags, is because they either found a way to play without needing a group of officers/HC or because they have enough capable members left willing to contribute in such way. I think this game would be alot better if the whole alliance scene wouldn't rely so heavely on a few players doing alot of (thankless) work for everyone else.
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Wow, I'm breaking the 'no post' rule because I actually feel strongly about this. This is a bad idea. The community is small enough as it is. You're crippling newer and existing alliances by changing the limit. I won't expound here, but I will say.. don't do it. Keep it at 60 please. I'm fully willing to get into intellectual arguments over my point of view on this.
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Increasing the limit seems counter-productive to me.

The reduction to 4 ppl in a BP is insane though, this is the sort of change that should have been announced alot earlier if they wanted ppl to accept it.
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Re: Round 26 Announcement

I will say this is bad timing.. Why not wait until the summer round to increase the limit so high? Last round 60 was way too low, most of the major allies had at least 70 to 75 players, true. However, there are 4 new/returning allies, and only 1 not returning this round.. Bad, bad timing.. If anything it should be put to 65 or 70.. Mega allies (member wise) like ND and xVx should do fine with that, and only have a handful oot, but it would also give these new allies a chance to compete..

The BP thing though.. Why? Increase ally and decrease BP? Doesn't seem to follow any sort of logic. Alliances are supposed to pull new members from the blue, yet not have them play with their friends in a galaxy together? Right.
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Re: Round 26 Announcement

60 player alliances worked brilliantly last round. There were 5 alliances who all had a shot at winning, but the increase to 75 might not be the end of the game. All 5 had support planets...

Still, first thoughts are that 75 is too big.


Reese: the decrease in bp size is, at a guess, to increase the number of galaxies. I think increasing the number of galaxies is great and will lead to a better round. But I'm not convinced that this is a good way to do it. There is a thread about this in teh suggestions forum.
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I still think the time wasted with discussing the next alliance member limit can be better spend with properly integrating alliances in the game (no member limit, non-allied fleets fire at each other during attacks, no matter if they are on the same mission).

The reasoning behind the buddy pack concept seems non existent either. If anything, reduce the maximum size of a galaxy to make it a) easier for smaller alliances to perform a galaxy raid and b) to reduce the amount of double bookings.

Also, why does one have to click a link to report someone incs to the ingame alliance page? Just do it automatically. Knowing that you or someone in your alliance has incomings does not automatically cover those, and with enough material thrown at a single alliance they cannot even cover anyway. Oh wait, people are too scared that they might have to wage war then instead of doing galaxy raids all the time. Yeah, that is probably the reason.

The way fleets are handled after reporting seems open to exploitation (sign up some freebies, have them launch one max eta ship at you for 3 different ticks, keep on checking ingame alliances page to see if you have prelaunched attackers, and you even see which tick they will come!).

My totally irrelevant (because PA team keeps on ignoring vision-based suggestions and prefer their own clueless ideas) two cents .
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Re: Round 26 Announcement

the reason why so many alliances had more than 60 members last round was due to the late announcement of the alliance limit being decreased, for example CT and ToF had allready merged and had members access sorted out. now everyone has adjusted to 60 members they go and whack it up to 75... why have an alliance limit at all then!!

I dont see the point in the no support planet rule as they will not enforce it.

changed that would help pa are things like reducing the number of races, not this pish
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The support planet rule is a pile of shit. 75 members is absolutely no change from the current situation. 4 man BPs is just arbitrary and annoying.
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changed that would help pa are things like reducing the number of races, not this pish
Reducing the races would not improve Planetarion. Reworking races so that they share most of the ships in the universe and each race has only a 0 to 2 race specific ships combined with races giving other advantages than different ships (res / con / prod / stealth / mining modificators) would actually improve the game, as it would offer more interesting choices.

And as everyone who enjoys strategy games knows: interesting choices are half the fun.
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Reducing the races would not improve Planetarion. Reworking races so that they share most of the ships in the universe and each race has only a 0 to 2 race specific ships combined with races giving other advantages than different ships (res / con / prod / stealth / mining modificators) would actually improve the game, as it would offer more interesting choices.

like in the old days then!! would be a lot better
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No offense, but weren't those alliances doomed to fail sooner rather than later? "Good" alliances will keep a decent/good core of players no matter what the alliance limit is set to. It might not be enough to compete for the top spot, but i'm sure any alliance could create some action (be it for the top spot or some other goal) for themselves if they wanted to. If all you want is to win with your alliance, there are only limited options to choose from anyway, because regardless of tag limt, there will always only be a few alliances actually competing for the win.

I really can't believe that forcing players to leave/not join the tag they want to play with will gain any alliance some form of benefit. Sure, it might mean you have enough planets to get a nice score, but is that all you are after? You'll get much better members from players who actually wanted to join your alliance, instead of being forced to join it because its the least shit next available option.

Alliances are currently dying because there is hardly anyone who wants to (or can / is decent enough to) run them, increasing the amount of alliances by reducing their tag size isn't going to help any of that. And the reason for some alliances always managing to fill up their tags, is because they either found a way to play without needing a group of officers/HC or because they have enough capable members left willing to contribute in such way. I think this game would be alot better if the whole alliance scene wouldn't rely so heavely on a few players doing alot of (thankless) work for everyone else.
This is the most clueless nonsense I've seen thus far.

Who's playing next round?

CT, NoX, Jenova, NewDawn, xVx, Denial, Rock, TGV, VGN?, Asc, Redemption.

So out of those 11 alliances, how many do you think will be able to fill the tag?

2 - NewDawn and xVx.

Because of the number of support planets last round, people have gone and found their own thing, because being a support planet sucks the proverbial cock. So everyone's found a new alliance.

THREE new alliances have sprung up, so you can stick your 'There arent enough people willing to lead' argument.

PA needs to take this back, and FAST, or they'll have ruined a lot of people's rounds - then you'd be just as well making next round p2p too, as there'll be a rapid decline in players before the round even beings, thus negating a free summer round.
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So out of those 11 alliances, how many do you think will be able to fill the tag?

PA needs to take this back, and FAST, or they'll have ruined a lot of people's rounds
just because an alliance does not have full tag and therefore is unlikely to win is not a reason for people not to enjoy a round, I cant see how it makes much difference tbh. Surely people in alliances like TGV, HA, Subh that were never likely to win the round still enjoyed it? The alliance limit should be marginal to players enjoyment.

that does not mean its not a bad decision for pa, just not as catastrophic as you make it sound
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TGV is not gonna play next round due to officer leakage to other alliances and us not having the manpower to run another round. After this round we lost all our officers to either real life or other alliances and will most likely cease to exist as an alliance.
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TGV is not gonna play next round due to officer leakage to other alliances and us not having the manpower to run another round. After this round we lost all our officers to either real life or other alliances and will most likely cease to exist as an alliance.
sad to see it go...
and apologies to not be able to be an officer next round, too much uni work to do, would rather like to graduate
pity I could have done round 27


I am proud to have been in TGV the last two rounds, has been great fun, even if I did rather lack sleep at times (what else is pa about )
I am particularly thankful for everyone in TGV's pacience with me as a newbie in r24, I was probably really annoying asking loads of newbieish questions... and I never got the hang of asking for scans!
All in all probably best to disband rather than trying to keep going completely under strength and without officers, afterall I thought we had too few last round!
ps best to post that on the alliance predictions thread where we have been debating whether TGV will be continuing.

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sad to see it go...
and apologies to not be able to be an officer next round, too much uni work to do, would rather like to graduate
pity I could have done round 27

best to post that on the alliance predictions thread where we have been debating whether TGV will be continuing.
Im not prepared for the 4th time to put together a brand new officer team into the fray when each time we do it everyone goes off elsewhere. The amount of hours spent on the alliance, and this game simply is not worth it anymore.
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Surely people in alliances like TGV, HA, Subh that were never likely to win the round still enjoyed it? The alliance limit should be marginal to players enjoyment.
Surely ppl join alliances to attack well an get def, they care most about their planet winning or getting a better rank than last time having Ur alliance win is a bonus but imo ppl want to win with planet 1st, gal 2nd alliance 3rd
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Reese: the decrease in bp size is, at a guess, to increase the number of galaxies.

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One is not mutually exclusive of the other.
I dont see why a gal must have a buddypack, I would love an all random round tbh but it aint likely :crymeariver:
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Surely ppl join alliances to attack well an get def, they care most about their planet winning or getting a better rank than last time having Ur alliance win is a bonus but imo ppl want to win with planet 1st, gal 2nd alliance 3rd
not sure I agree, I tended to think of gal and alliance before planet last round. And I am sure there are alot of people who do, afterall not many players are within striking distance of being top planet. Making your gal or alliance one of the best is much more likely. And surely alot of people join alliances for the sense of community... ok some alliances have a very high membership turnover and are just machines for personal advancement but I would think the most consistent, and worth joining alliances are communities.
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I dont see why a gal must have a buddypack, I would love an all random round tbh but it aint likely :crymeariver:
In general people prefer playing with their friends. And galaxies have always been the backbone of the average player's round.
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like in the old days then!! would be a lot better
Not exactly, but sort of, yes.
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Who's playing next round?

CT, NoX, Jenova, NewDawn, xVx, Denial, Rock, TGV, VGN?, Asc, Redemption.

So out of those 11 alliances, how many do you think will be able to fill the tag?

2 - NewDawn and xVx.
I'll be very surprised (and disappointed) if VGN doesn't reach 75 members. And it's already been established that all of the top 5 alliances last round had well over 60.

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THREE new alliances have sprung up, so you can stick your 'There arent enough people willing to lead' argument.
This would only be valid if the three new alliances hadn't "stolen" their officers from existing alliances. We already know that TGV is a victim of this loss of officers. How many "new" officers has each of these alliances brought to the party?

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PA needs to take this back, and FAST, or they'll have ruined a lot of people's rounds - then you'd be just as well making next round p2p too, as there'll be a rapid decline in players before the round even beings, thus negating a free summer round.
I don't agree. With three new alliances this round should be at least as enjoyable as the last.
(Yes, my tongue was slightly in my cheek when I typed that last sentence).
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Well 75 hasn't altered redemptions plans we will still be there we will still go with forging a core.

75 however has had an effect it seems on the big alliances filling to 60 i assume however that they all went well over 75. for example i got news that xVx in fact still has a core of 90 members i wouldn't be at all surprised if ND community was still big enough to lure more than 75 in. 75 is no big deal to the normal alliances or even to say noX or jen as they all recruited over 60 neway( i assume) the problems lie when alliances like Orbit HA SPQR ASS struggle to get to 60 decent members let alone now 75. with the alliance limit raised there will either be a lot of merging at the last min. or a huge gulf in the alliance rankings with the top 6 dominated by full tags prolly with un checked support planets. Then a huge gulf in the quality and member counts of the small allies.

IMHO tis not the alliances lead by the, shall we say PA vets that have the problems finiding officers. as there to my eyes will always be a member from a bigish alliance that thinks they can do it better or be more active. tis when to fill the void left by retiring/ quitting players the bigger alliances consume the quality from the lower ranks. but this is starting to turn into a rant .

im short alliance limits should have been announced earlier from the general reaction of suprise and outrage i assume there was no communication from PA team to alliance HCs whatever did happen to #alliances ???

more gals = good other changes = nice alliance limit is ok but needed to be discussed first

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im short alliance limits should have been announced earlier from the general reaction of suprise and outrage i assume there was no communication from PA team to alliance HCs whatever did happen to #alliances ???
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Its the doing of the alliances. They bitched, bitched and bitched some more, kept holding up Jester as some kind of messiah with his "lets get rid of limits" idea as they buy into the fact that they will be one of the couple of alliances that would survive. Cin seemingly decided to listen to the bitching and show a complete lack of long term planning and before the round ended started floating the idea to alliances, who all but pretty much myself and kargool decided to exclaim what a great idea it was. Cin then seemingly used this to persuade the rest of pateam what a great idea it was.

So ultimately if you want to blame anyone then most of you need to take it up with your alliance hc's as its their doing
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In Sebos's defence, your referring to #alliances / the alliance hc - pa team forum which his alliance has no access to yet.

So who should he blame?
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I think I would prefer 60 member alliances for balance, these are just general comments on why the raised limit probably won't ruin the round, even if it's not optimal.

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i wouldn't be at all surprised if ND community was still big enough to lure more than 75 in. 75 is no big deal to the normal alliances or even to say noX or jen as they all recruited over 60 neway( i assume) the problems lie when alliances like Orbit HA SPQR ASS struggle to get to 60 decent members let alone now 75. with the alliance limit raised there will either be a lot of merging at the last min.
The decent member comment is also true for NewDawn and probably for other alliances who're in the running for top.

ND are a community based alliance that tries to only recruit long term assets. The ND community is probably big enough to lure 75 players, but a fair few of them will be idle cnut oldies like myself, and a lot of new recruits won't be superstars. ND won't be able to field a full tag of 75 good players (we didn't even have 60 last round ).

I'd guess this is going to be true for everyone except perhaps Jenova and Denial who may be willing to accept the mercs. If they can't do it, we'll probably see something similar to this round, or ever non-1up/eX rd in PaX.

Iirc: This round the top 5 were constant. The top 4 spent the round trading ranks, VGN sat at 6th all round long and Rock/HA/TGV were close but there wasn't much rank swapping. We already have a segregated ranking system and it shouldn't be too much worse this round.

The gap may be larger so a repeat of Rock's heroic fight against xVx is less likely, but lower-ranked alliances will still be able to provide plenty of attacks and defence for their members and get involved with upper-echelon politics if they want to. They never stood a chance at getting first anyway.

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im short alliance limits should have been announced earlier from the general reaction of suprise and outrage i assume there was no communication from PA team to alliance HCs whatever did happen to #alliances ???
Well, we've had a 2-3 week warning... consultation with more players is what I assume you meant.
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