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Unread 6 Jun 2007, 11:50   #51
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Re: Biggest positive suprise this round?

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Wakey, did Orbit do something to you in a previous life?? Why you have this vendetta against us is beyond me.

Well done Orbit, an enjoyable taining round with some of the best people around \o/
I have such a vendetta against orbit that I attack them on every thread. Oh wait I don't.

The times I have critised Orbit are as follows
  1. Round 14 - I used Orbit as an example to highlight the worrying attacking trend of the lower alliances (As I said at the time Orbit werent the only one doing it but were the ones i had 'seen' happening rather than being told about it )
  2. Round 20 - I critised some of the HC for their attitude when it comes to fighting for the rights of their members, players like their members and alliances like their own and those worse off than their own. I stated basically that we are a community and as a leader of an alliance that gives new players a chance its our community duty to give such players a voice and to fight for their corner rather than stay quite

If thats a vendetta then I must have vendettes with most of the alliances in the game asive posted more negatve stuff about 80% of them.

Oh and I was hardly 'negative' about orbit here. I simply stated that last round Orbit were a positive surpise but this round while doing 'well' they took a slight step back so its hardly a case of being a 'positive surprise'
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Re: Biggest positive suprise this round?

Wakey, you only have to do a quick search on the forums, doing a search for posts by yourself featuring the word "orbit" to get a link to this thread which is, to save people clicking, is entitled "Orbit - The poster boys for success". Granted this may be one of the two posts you were referring to above, but openly attacking an alliance and bashing them in public warrents a hostile posistion towards you / F-Crew.
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Unread 6 Jun 2007, 15:09   #53
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Re: Biggest positive suprise this round?

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Wakey, you only have to do a quick search on the forums, doing a search for posts by yourself featuring the word "orbit" to get a link to this thread which is, to save people clicking, is entitled "Orbit - The poster boys for success". Granted this may be one of the two posts you were referring to above, but openly attacking an alliance and bashing them in public warrents a hostile posistion towards you / F-Crew.
Its the Round 14 one (although reading a few messages may have been r15). Oh and BTW the thread title was actually "Orbit - The poster boys for failure"

Anyway some background to that thread.
  • I had been fighting the corner of the smaller alliances for a while, but concerns were too easy to sweep under the carpet. There were too few of us fighting this corner and without naming names they were ignoring it
  • Other people were saying to us "Name Names, give evidence or stfu
  • So I stopped softening the blows, i named and shamed people. There was still too few of us to have real impact but it atleast made groups face up to the concerns
  • However the next big concern wouldnt be about the top alliances actions but the lower alliances actions agaisnt themselves
  • The lower alliances were bashing below their weight turning the galaxies of the new players, the players they primarly take on and help into wastelands
  • These attacks were weakening the lower end of the game significantly and were actually weakening the very alliances attacking which wasnt needed as the game was perfectly setup to allow everyone to punch above their own weight
  • I spoke to a few alliances that were brought to my attention and tried to help them help themselves. The problem was the kind of responce i often got was 'so what' or 'x, y and z do it, why shouldnt we'
  • So for the next round I decided that I would take the issue public and try and scare a few alliances into taking more care in target choice. As soon as I had evidence that I had seen first hand and could be sure was correct i would use that alliance as an example
  • Orbit were just unlucky, wrong time wrong place. It could have easierly been a number of other alliances that were regularry doing the same kind of attacks
  • And it worked. Orbits attacks seemed to steaderly improve, other alliances's hc's approached me to ask how to improve their attacks, especially getting members over the fear of attacking bigger. Infact Ron who was Orbits main spokesman on the thread left me the following rep a a few years later

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    Ron7684 06:35, 5th Oct 2006 reading it a couple years later, great post, i was a douche

Do I wish I could have done it without a post? Yes
If i could go back would I still do it? Yes
Was it done as part of a vendette against orbit? No way. If Orbit want to hold vendette against me for that post then fine thats their choice but I have no long term issue with them myself
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Unread 6 Jun 2007, 17:23   #54
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Re: Biggest positive suprise this round?

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And it worked. Orbits attacks seemed to steaderly improve
It takes some nerve to see a competing alliance improve and claim it was your doing
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Re: Biggest positive suprise this round?

Have you all forgotten the word "positive" in the topic? And here you are, just slagging each other off. Shame on you!
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Re: Biggest positive suprise this round?

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Have you all forgotten the word "positive" in the topic? And here you are, just slagging each other off. Shame on you!
Yeah, nobody seems to like the word positive around here
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Unread 6 Jun 2007, 22:33   #57
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Re: Biggest positive suprise this round?

Well i think Orbit had the same problems as F-crew really. Orbit is quite a young ally and alot of our members are in uni etc, i myself am in college as is Yoshi so our activity was done due to that. All over though and getting ready for next round .

As for positive surprises? TGV massive burst for the last 2 weeks or so.
Another "surprise" that i wasnt surprised about was Ascendancy, everyone leaves them alone for the whole round and then suddenly they are 2nd how did that happen?

thats about it from me.

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We did? errm i mean, Of course we did!! PHEAR US!!!
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Re: Biggest positive suprise this round?

Bline they realy disapointed pppp
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Bline they realy disapointed pppp
Who were Internecio?

I stopped paying attention to havoc a long time ago since Bline were the only specialist alliance in it, but it looks like some people got together and did something about it.
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Doesn't help when it was the pa universe vs Bline but nevermind, I was too lazy play anyway.
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Re: Biggest positive suprise this round?

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Who were Internecio?

I stopped paying attention to havoc a long time ago since Bline were the only specialist alliance in it, but it looks like some people got together and did something about it.
about time somebody broke their winning streak..
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Re: Biggest positive suprise this round?

ROCK and Ascendancy. WolfPack too actually. I joined expecting us to be CT's biggest opposition.. instead we just took the #1 spot as soon as we tagged and kept it from there. It was pretty surprising to me :]
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Re: Biggest positive suprise this round?

Devvie just cause you played your wonderful tatics again don't go bragging.

To be honest Orbit rocked last rnd we had 4 HC 4/4 of which had exams and as rl must take priority at some point were all concentrating on them rather than attacks and defence. So at anyone time out of those 4 HC we had only 1 HC running the full alliance at one time, something you can hardly brag abut at F-Crew is it!!!

Wakey your just peed off that Orbit having a much less experianced HC team than f-crew (so you have claimed in the past ) they can still wipe your ass off the pa sphere as it were even though they were not holding members hands 24/7.

Orbit not only managed to maintain position and also hardly dealing with any def calls that came through relay channels and also taking on the responsibility of training new members.

Wakey you just can't handle the fact that you'll never have the tatics of Crow or Mark or the balls of Yoshi, Magi and Hutchi so please please please get over your orbit issue and start dealing with us wiping the floor with you !!!!!!!! Because it happens every rnd
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Devvie just cause you played your wonderful tatics again don't go bragging.

To be honest Orbit rocked last rnd we had 4 HC 4/4 of which had exams and as rl must take priority at some point were all concentrating on them rather than attacks and defence. So at anyone time out of those 4 HC we had only 1 HC running the full alliance at one time, something you can hardly brag abut at F-Crew is it!!!

Wakey your just peed off that Orbit having a much less experianced HC team than f-crew (so you have claimed in the past ) they can still wipe your ass off the pa sphere as it were even though they were not holding members hands 24/7.

Orbit not only managed to maintain position and also hardly dealing with any def calls that came through relay channels and also taking on the responsibility of training new members.

Wakey you just can't handle the fact that you'll never have the tatics of Crow or Mark or the balls of Yoshi, Magi and Hutchi so please please please get over your orbit issue and start dealing with us wiping the floor with you !!!!!!!! Because it happens every rnd
1) Since when did 2 rounds become every round
2) 1.2mill is hardly "wipe your ass off the pa sphere" now is it
3) Since when has losing ranks been Maintaining a position
4) Since when has "hardly dealing with any def calls that came through relay channels" been good
5) We cant claim to have lacked activity in the hc! strange I seem to recall it being mentioned before anyone in orbit stated they did, something which MAsta_MArk actually refers to when he says "Well i think Orbit had the same problems as F-crew really"

Now if you actually take a minute to read what I have posted you will notice I haven't attacked orbit, or said you have done shit. I have simply said that claiming an alliance that lost ranks, failed to increase their lead on a another alliance when the other alliance admitted to having big problems in the round and when it clear that the alliance has had some problems themselves then claiming that they have then been a 'positive surprise' is a little undeserved.

If there was a thread for "alliance that came through adversity" orbit would be on that list and deservedly so, but from a positive surprise front you went from being the rounds positive surprise the round before to taking a slight step back.

As for me having an "orbit issue" its more like you have a "Wakey issue". After all your post was little more than a flame post trying to throw a whole host of insults and attacks at me, even if doing so makes your comment of "To be honest Orbit rocked last rnd" look idiotic as there is basically no part of the alliance you dont state didn't work last round. You should have taken a leaf out of MAsta_MArk's book who had the guts to hold up his hands and say things weren't good and didn't resort to cheap shots and name calling. He came across as educated and mature and honest all of which can only be seen as positive traits
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Unread 16 Jun 2007, 02:58   #66
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Re: Biggest positive suprise this round?

Surely an alliance suffering from adverse circumatances it knew it was going to endure from tick start and still doing reasonably well does count as a positive suprise?
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ofc it does thats the point i was trying to make
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Re: Biggest positive suprise this round?

Seriously, why bother fighting over this?
Unless you won the round, it doesn't really matter does it?
Only thing that does is that your alliance, you & friends have fun
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Re: Biggest positive suprise this round?

Verbal fencing can be fun.
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Orbit not only managed to maintain position and also hardly dealing with any def calls that came through relay channels and also taking on the responsibility of training new members.
I can vouch for the training of new members.

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Re: Biggest positive suprise this round?

Ye rite... your not fooling anyone Smudge <3
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