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Unread 28 Feb 2003, 02:01   #1
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Championship manager 4

Just got the demo from irc and it looks pretteh damn sweet gonna play it al night \o/
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Unread 28 Feb 2003, 04:44   #2
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yeah, just played it for like half an hour. its a bit strange, but good.
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Unread 28 Feb 2003, 07:32   #3
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Great as always.

I'm waiting for the full verse to pounce up commercial.

Gaming industry is clearly after my money. CM4 and Moo3 both being dragged to market at roughly the same time, forcing me to splash money.

Tits.
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Unread 28 Feb 2003, 09:38   #4
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Their site is still down, the demo's meant to be out soonish and I hate the wait :(
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Unread 28 Feb 2003, 09:59   #5
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DL it from the dugout.

CM dugout

if the link is right
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Unread 28 Feb 2003, 10:12   #6
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Good point. But it's still 42 minutes away :(((((

oh and it's http://www.thedugout.net/ btw
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Unread 28 Feb 2003, 11:13   #7
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Mkay, I've never bothered to actually type the URL, I've always googled it, but I thougth you might find a verse there.
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Unread 28 Feb 2003, 11:17   #8
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I got it from a mirror on the main cm forums which are still running.

However it looks crap and is going to take a hell of a lot of getting used to.
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Unread 28 Feb 2003, 11:20   #9
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Well, it may look like crap, but hey, didn't CM3 look weird when it appeared in the first shots when you were used to CM2?

In the end, it's a lot better.
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The 2D match engine is about 50 thousand times better than I thought it would be though. Plus the bugs are flooding in on the forums, I've already spotted a couple - means more delay :/
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if cm3's anything to go buy, the game wont be bugless for at least 6 months...
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That must be the most boring game ever made
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Well any game that allows me to win 3-0 with Sheff Wed and loan in about 5 internationals rocks.
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Unread 28 Feb 2003, 12:01   #14
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if cm3's anything to go buy, the game wont be bugless for at least 6 months...
err... yes... no?

Okay, a bug in loaning deals, or?
The biggest problem with championship managers is that they are a bit easy to hardcore managers.
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Unread 28 Feb 2003, 12:02   #15
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The 2D match engine is about 50 thousand times better than I thought it would be though. Plus the bugs are flooding in on the forums, I've already spotted a couple - means more delay :/
The demo is just a cut down version of the BETA....its not the final product thats due for release next month. Hopefully any bugs spotted by those of us downloading now would have been picked up by the beta team ages ago
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Unread 28 Feb 2003, 12:06   #16
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Wakey´s right, prolly they have been fixing bugs but not for the demo yet

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The demo is just a cut down version of the BETA....its not the final product thats due for release next month. Hopefully any bugs spotted by those of us downloading now would have been picked up by the beta team ages ago
Well yes, but they've got a known bugs thread already set up and it didn't include obvious ones like the fact that you couldn't search for players on a free transfer only.
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That's quite bad, Dogsey.

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Unread 28 Feb 2003, 17:32   #19
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the game is more suited for a 17" screen just looks really small on my 15" screen
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I got the game. It's so wicked. Only £30 with CM4 water bottle & 2 V drinks.
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I have here the official strategy guide , which upon reading , i realise tells me nothing i didnt already know , other than how to use Suicidal "Hail Mary" tactics , and how to properly use the new training screens , which i needed to know if im honest.

How can ANYONE play with Leicester though , knowing your club has a £54 million loan to pay off?

And did everyone know that the team in the game with the MOST debt is in fact not Leeds , or Chelsea , or even Everton , but NEWCASTLE UNITED.

Although since its on a 20 year loan , i dont think its as much of an issue.
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Oh , and yet again , Wigan are the dominant team in Division 2 , and should , with a remotely competent manager , EASILY ace both Division 2 and Division 1 of the nationwide in consecutive seasons.
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I'm seriously pissed off with CM4, even though it's a great game. My PC is only 400mhz and the minimum spec is 600mhz

The annoying thing is that it doesn't even let you load it - unless anyone knows how to get round this?
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The best thing is the save selection button.
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The best thing is FINALLY being able to tell the press "My star player had an absoloute blinder today , i cant believe how lucky we are to have him"

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"My star player was useless today. Why the hell are we paying him money. Someone come and take this useless sack of crap off my payroll".
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That too.

And the 2D match engine.

And the transfer/contract things.

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That too.

And the 2D match engine.

And the transfer/contract things.

etc
And the training section being more than 4 boxes , and proper coaching stats where more than 1 stat matters , and the fact more players are accurately represented , and of course , the two greatest hidden stats EVER


Eccentricity and Controversy
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I'd say it's pretty perfect apart from the stats layout, but I'll get used to that.
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Theres a "Sportsmanship" stat as well. Players with low sportsmanship are likely to dive more and fake injuries more to get players booked/sent off.

Im betting Franny Jeffers has 1 out of 200 Sportsmanship.
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Does anyone here reckon they can make it to I16 and get a HUGE LAN version of this going , now that theyve solved the whole server issue things for LAN games?
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i shall be attending i16 with cm4 aswell

i did have a little scare when i won my first 3 champions league games and the news screen said arsenal get knocked out of champions cup (or words to that effect) when i ahd qualified as top of the group after 3 games
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i did have a little scare when i won my first 3 champions league games and the news screen said arsenal get knocked out of champions cup (or words to that effect) when i ahd qualified as top of the group after 3 games

Ive downloaded the update patch for that , just to prevent such instances.

However , as ive got Partick Thistle , the CL is a while away for me.
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There's a bug that I've been drawn in the 2nd group stage with a club that I had in the first.

But that's not the main issue.

The main issue is that they're PSV, Inter and Arsenal.
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It fixes about 50 known bugs. Theres a complete list on the SI Forums.

Hopefully it solves the invisible player bug as well.
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just noticed the team form is ****ed up (yes i got the enhancement pack)

according to the team form tab, no one in the league has lost in the last 5 games and most of them have won every game
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cannot wait to get that game.
I have wasted away sooo many hours of my life on cm 00/01 and i'm sick and tired of Tore Andre Flo being Chelsea's best player and West Ham still having Steve Potts etc etc
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hmmmmm, i have a tough choice now.

Play more freelancer and explore and get the best ship n stuff.
Or get CM4 tomorrow which involves getting up, going into town and getting back in time for the rugby to start.

Ill see what time i wake up
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told you it would be full of bugs

im definately gonna wait a few weeks
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How can ANYONE play with Leicester though , knowing your club has a £54 million loan to pay off?
Hoof it. Play some of the most mindnumbingly dull football in the first division. It works for Micky Adams$£!"@~$!
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I'm afraid the demo and beta for cm4 have proven it is so utterly dull, cumbersome, slow and simplistic as to be the most disappointing game ever.

Please someone attempt to argue that; the interface is actually easy and not mind-bendingly frustrating to use. That the tactics don't seem like a 5 year old could use them. That the match doesn't go past in a flash when using the 2d screen and that the commentary isn't slow when you use the normal method.

It's just not Championship Manager any more.
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You can plug off the 2D Pitch. That's what I did. But the matches are still ****ing slow compared to the older versions of CM.

It really kneels down my athlon 1200. With 256 RAM (Only, it seems, in this case). Never would've seen this coming .

But it's great still. I need a comp hardware update to be able to enjoy it though.
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Kurashima has ascended to a higher existance and no longer needs rep points to prove the size of his e-penis.Kurashima has ascended to a higher existance and no longer needs rep points to prove the size of his e-penis.Kurashima has ascended to a higher existance and no longer needs rep points to prove the size of his e-penis.Kurashima has ascended to a higher existance and no longer needs rep points to prove the size of his e-penis.Kurashima has ascended to a higher existance and no longer needs rep points to prove the size of his e-penis.Kurashima has ascended to a higher existance and no longer needs rep points to prove the size of his e-penis.Kurashima has ascended to a higher existance and no longer needs rep points to prove the size of his e-penis.Kurashima has ascended to a higher existance and no longer needs rep points to prove the size of his e-penis.Kurashima has ascended to a higher existance and no longer needs rep points to prove the size of his e-penis.Kurashima has ascended to a higher existance and no longer needs rep points to prove the size of his e-penis.Kurashima has ascended to a higher existance and no longer needs rep points to prove the size of his e-penis.
It chugs a bit on my Celeron 633 , but ive got 512 Meg Ram to asisst it.

If i upgrade the processor , i should be fine. Im likely to pick up a decent laptop to play it on at I-16 , so im sorted.
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It was matter for general remark,
Rushed madly ahead and was lost to their view
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