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1 Nov 2003, 04:40
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Kazaa alternatives
i go away for a few months and return to kazaalite being mostly crap, and the files therein also of crapness.
alternatives please.
use of ease, required amounts to be shared, popularity, vastness and availability of files etc etc.
ta.
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1 Nov 2003, 04:43
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1 Nov 2003, 04:55
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Re: Kazaa alternatives
suprnova or whatever is the best site for BT and digial file sharing forums.
I got sick of the sabotarge of the files on KaZaA. Tried winmx for the first time in ages and it's still pretty ace.
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1 Nov 2003, 04:56
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Re: Kazaa alternatives
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EXPLAIN THEN ****Y.
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1 Nov 2003, 04:57
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Re: Kazaa alternatives
i object to a certain scottish affectionate slang word for the female anatomy being censored.
its wide use in daily language has made it as effective insult as any other non censored sweary word here.
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1 Nov 2003, 11:50
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Re: Kazaa alternatives
winmx
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1 Nov 2003, 12:06
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Re: Kazaa alternatives
I personally have a problem with Bittorrent. Yes its fairly quick, files are normally what the claim to be ect BUT its a network that due to the implementation actually encourages 'leaching'
While your downloading a file off it you have no choice but to share it, even when you have finished if the window is kept open it continues to share. However theres no benifit to keeping the file open and hence shared after youve completed it and hence most people dont bother. This is especially true when you go to download a second file, keeping the first file shared hinders the download of the second file so your encouraged to shut the first window down hence stop sharing.
This leads to files quickly becoming rare as people have no reason to continue sharing files and can lead to situations where you get to 90 odd percent only to find the people with the parts you need have now stopped sharing and you have no way to complete the file.
For this reason I much perfer a network where your rewarded for sharing such as any of the edonkey network clients (eMule/eDonkey/Overnet). Yes these do go much slower to start with as you build up credits for your sharing of files but files stay avaiable much longer and your much more likly to give back as much as you take (plus after a while when you ahve credits allowing you to jump up queues the speeds can challenge BT, even early on as long as you leave your client connected to give it time to get to the front of the queues you get pretty good speeds). Not to mention this was the first p2p network to introduce links which automatically start downloads for you meaning theres a number of verified links sites (sharereactor.com, Bucktv.net, the-realworld.de) for it which are much more stable than those of BT ones (ie the likes of suprnova)
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1 Nov 2003, 12:19
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Re: Kazaa alternatives
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installed ... and uninstalled again
shite stuff.
I use campusnet myself.
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1 Nov 2003, 12:19
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Re: Kazaa alternatives
i use mldonkey (also part of the edonkey network), but for mp3s i think its quite useless (maybe that changed in the last 12 month, i dont download many mp3s, so i usually dont search for them).
for movies or other, larger files its perfect.
an advantage of mldonkey is that you could even use the bittoret network at the same time (and a number of others aswell), i never tryed that though.
PS for the ultimate download experience, go to some lan-parties
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1 Nov 2003, 12:38
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Re: Kazaa alternatives
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Originally Posted by wu_trax
i use mldonkey (also part of the edonkey network), but for mp3s i think its quite useless (maybe that changed in the last 12 month, i dont download many mp3s, so i usually dont search for them).
for movies or other, larger files its perfect.
an advantage of mldonkey is that you could even use the bittoret network at the same time (and a number of others aswell), i never tryed that though.
PS for the ultimate download experience, go to some lan-parties
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For single mp3's it is, the networks not really designed for smaller files, instead its designed to suit the larger files. However this does make it ideal for collections of mp3's (for example full albums, collections of artists work ect - REMEMBER though you have to own the original CD else your breaking the law ) contained in a single achive
Oh as for figures Jboy of the eDonket network
Users 1.44m
Files 104.56m
As for required amount shared, some of the servers have a min and max number of files but these are normally around 1000 files at the softlimit and 4000 at the hardlimit (Softlimit means only that number will be shared, hard limit is wher if you exceed your removed off the server). The exact amount you need to share however isnt something you can say, you can do just as well with 25 good files as 200 poor files
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1 Nov 2003, 12:50
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Re: Kazaa alternatives
i didnt even know there are such limits.
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1 Nov 2003, 13:08
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Re: Kazaa alternatives
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You need to find a community where people aren't wankers (everyone knows where i'm talking about) or a site where a system is in place to stop leeching.
TvTorrents.com is very good site to get tv episodes from and it uses a credit system, forcing you to upload so u have enough credits to download. It works great apart from the fact the site goes down every so often.
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1 Nov 2003, 13:27
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Re: Kazaa alternatives
Direct Connect, more specifically DC++.
You can usually find whatever you want with little fuss. Just make sure you are sharing at least 20gb for most hubs.
And don't share illegal files. Seriously, we wouldn't want to break the law, or the board rules.
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Re: Kazaa alternatives
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Originally Posted by wakey
This leads to files quickly becoming rare as people have no reason to continue sharing files and can lead to situations where you get to 90 odd percent only to find the people with the parts you need have now stopped sharing and you have no way to complete the file.
For this reason I much perfer a network where your rewarded for sharing such as any of the edonkey network clients (eMule/eDonkey/Overnet).
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That's why BT is mostly used for brand new releases. The single upload/download spreads new copies around faster than in P2P networks with more files being copied. If you want a file quickly, use BT in the first few days of it being released. If you're getting something much later than release use Winmx or eDonkey, which are designed for a larger variety of content.
And on that note, I use BT for new releases (Angel/South Park eps every week), eDonkey for TV eps and movies that have been around at least week or more, and WinMX for MP3s.
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2 Nov 2003, 02:05
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Re: Kazaa alternatives
dc++
However, this does require actual sharing, the speeds are ace though and you can find shitloads on it.
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2 Nov 2003, 02:07
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Re: Kazaa alternatives
Everyone in this thread should be rounded up and thrown into jail.
Thieves.
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2 Nov 2003, 03:16
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Re: Kazaa alternatives
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Originally Posted by Bunga
Direct Connect, more specifically DC++.
You can usually find whatever you want with little fuss. Just make sure you are sharing at least 20gb for most hubs.
And don't share illegal files. Seriously, we wouldn't want to break the law, or the board rules.
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It's not against the board rules to share copyrighted contents.
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2 Nov 2003, 05:55
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Re: Kazaa alternatives
My review of the programs I've used:
BitTorrent:
Pros: great for the newest stuff, good speeds, some sites that offer downloads (like RvB) use it
Cons: great speeds for most of the download, but it can sometimes stop completely at 90%+ because at that point everyone's who finished it has shut it off. Confusing for multiple downloads (at least the client I use) as each one has it's own window. Hard to find files, as you rely on sites like Suprnova. Also, it's got no privacy protection, I've heard of plenty of people getting warnings for downloading stuff with it.
Summary: I use it for legal stuff, comic books, tv shows, but if the download's not done in a day (or sooner) I usually give up on it.
DC++:
Pros: Good speeds, good at keeping leachers out, difficult for *AA-types to catch you with
Cons: Dealing with multiple hubs is a pain, especially as many have different rules (my pet peeve is all the ones that upload my porn yet kick me when an op finds it), difficult to finish a file if the guy you started it from disconnects. You have to already have quite a bit of stuff downloaded to get on the good hubs.
Summary: I keep on installing this to 'give it another chance', but usually end up getting rid of it again, it's not as simple as most other programs, you'd be better off finding some IRC fserves.
Kazaa Lite:
Pros: Simple to use, advanced privacy options (no K-Lite user has been sued so far) very easy to find what you're looking for most of the time (largest memberbase).
Cons: Most plagued by fake/renamed files and viruses, although I haven't found many of these personally. Most frequented by leechers.
Summary: Download it, install it, and you can be downloading anything you might want in 5 minutes. Most user-friendly.
Other programs I haven't used enough to say much about.
I mostly use K-Lite myself, with a daily scan of suprnova to see if anything on there catches my eye. That and some ftp-sharing fulfills all my p2p needs.
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2 Nov 2003, 14:16
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Re: Kazaa alternatives
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Originally Posted by Scoot951
My review of the programs I've used:
DC++:
Pros: Good speeds, good at keeping leachers out, difficult for *AA-types to catch you with
Cons: Dealing with multiple hubs is a pain, especially as many have different rules (my pet peeve is all the ones that upload my porn yet kick me when an op finds it), difficult to finish a file if the guy you started it from disconnects. You have to already have quite a bit of stuff downloaded to get on the good hubs.
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Unless you are sharing rape/child porn you won't get kicked off a hub, is there something you want to tell us?
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2 Nov 2003, 15:14
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Re: Kazaa alternatives
Depends what hub he is on. Some hubs don't allow any porn at all, others kick if there is even a mention of such a thing in the name of the file. I see lots of people being kicked from the hub I'm usually in for sharing files with 100 char names inluding all kinds of sick things, when its most probably not even a propers picture.
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2 Nov 2003, 15:22
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Re: Kazaa alternatives
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2 Nov 2003, 15:31
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Re: Kazaa alternatives
I've used iMesh for over a year now, and it's pretty good--far better than kazaa, at least.
There's usually over 1 million users logged on at any given time, and I haven't picked up too many nasties in the files I've downloaded...unlike kazaa.
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Re: Kazaa alternatives
E-mule
OK, it's a tad slow, but the nr of downloads is great, and the share and reward system is very good too. If you don't want to download too big files, and don't expect them to be finished in a day then this works good enough.
KaZaa is good for quick downloads and leeching, but the number of shitty files on it begin to outweigh the speed.
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