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Unread 12 Dec 2007, 22:01   #1
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have we been lied to?

A friend of mine recommended I'd watch this movie, and after seeing it I found it has become quite a eye opener for me.

If you think the religion institution is one big hoax and you like conspiracy theory's check this out.


http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

get's interesting after about 8 minutes


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He's not a bot before you get all eager to ban, furball!!!!
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jesus, keep ur pants on
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i thik that was for jolt , come seriously we actualy spoke against control of some ppl that give crappy treatment , far of the 20 box BJ here .

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The name of the website rings a bell but i switched it off after the christianity bit came up. As a general rule of thumb, when you think you've just found "the truth", try typing the general name of the conspiracy or someone who's a figurehead of the movement/etc along with the word "debunked" into google and have a read.

Also, while the comic posted above by Mz is true to an extent, its true worth lies in how it defines a "conspiracy theory" actually is. If it's refering to something that has been conclusively debunked and someone's still holding onto the belief that the conspiracy has "found the truth", then yeah, anyone who holds to it is a good example of this "fault of reasoning". The problem is that people often lump any and all non mainstream political critique under the label of "conspiracy theory". If that's what is meant by conspiracy theory then they're wrong and simply guilty of a different "fault in reasoning".

as per usual when posting about this i'll link to.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vyVe-6YdUk
this is something that hasn't been debunked.
Yeah, well I certainly don't think this movie is the truth, but certainly after watching part III it got me thinking. Part III combines everything together, where goverments used to use religion and now use fear of terror to push legistration threw.
And also how the central bank will be used to dominate the world. This documentary covers alot imo.

But yeah, you shouldn't take this doc as the truth, as they say at the beginning. You'll be just as short sighted as people who believe in a higher power etc.

That's proberly why knowledge equels power
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That's proberly why knowledge equels power


nah , asset its power .
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Anyone care to summarise for someone who can't be bothered watching this?

If you want to watch a documentary about this sort of thing that you didn't find no the internet, watch The Power of Nightmares by Adam Curtis. The Trap is also good.
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Part III got me thinking about the end of days and how the RFID chips could be used as the mark of the beast. I also was intrigued by the correlation of astrology with Christianity. Part II need something new to be believable. Most of those points have already been debunked.
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Part III combines everything together, where goverments used to use religion and now use fear of terror to push legistration threw.
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Part III got me thinking about the end of days and how the RFID chips could be used as the mark of the beast. I also was intrigued by the correlation of astrology with Christianity. Part II need something new to be believable. Most of those points have already been debunked.
If it genuinely mentions 'mark of the beast' as a government conspiracy then someone needs to die right now.

It's this kind of bollocks that makes genuine 'conspiracy theories' instantly dismissable.
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It's this kind of bollocks that makes genuine 'conspiracy theories' instantly dismissable.
Genuine 'conspiracy theories' are all dumb anyway, so we dodged a magic bullet there.
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dunno if you are from the Uk horn but there was a radio play recently about Gary Mckinnon who was caught hacking into the pentagon to prove what you were talking about. Havent watched the video but will do over my tea. The play is on the bbc website still or u can get it throught the gary mckinnon website i think.
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and we get pc that cant even play a good 32vs32 cz game .


car cannot be that much stronger so the heck whit he rest or if you want to give me a space ship other than in my head .

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would be nice to see a military making pc player and working man live whitout a steak . let become larva instead . still waiting for that battle whit the alien aint coming to soon , so i wont be counting good as usefull on that side.
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