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Unread 8 Jun 2005, 16:16   #1
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Hacker or paranoia?

Ok this is a weird one. Today I used disk managment in widows to have a look at my c: cos my computer has been doing strange things for a while. By strange I mean it's always coming up with strange errors even after formatting and reinstalling windows. Also it's turned itself on, on two occasions.

I have 24.7 gigs of unallocated partion on my c: which I don't know where it came from. I don't know if this is usual for windows after deleting the partitions and having a bare HD and reinstalling windows. I have heard hackers can set up hidden partitions on your HD so warning bells are ringing.

Anyways once I loaded up a program to resize the partition to the full hard drive volume norton antivirus pops open without me doing anything and on the status screen indicating that there are no problems with a virus. This sends second warning bells ringing, "who the **** did that?". I decide to act from the viewpoint that their is a hacker on my comp and he's probably recording key strokes. So I created a text file and began some one sided communication on my part informing him I'm gonna download partition magic and have a look at the partition and download easy recovery pro to have a look at any deleted data I can scrounge up.

So i'm downloading away and a get a message through edonkey that the partition magic im downloading has a virus so I have a chat to him (one sided again) to ask him about what he's doing with my comp. I look at my system tray and my norton antivirus has gone since I rebooted. I load norton up and it says that it's not working.

This is all very strange, the guy who messaged me had the ip 216.186.60.106 which I'm pretty sure is an emule proxy.

Does anyone know whats going on or what to do. I'm running through some ideas but a cohesive strategy to confirm or deny the presence of a hacker is needed. I don't have the money to hardware protect my system so any useful software would be appreciated.
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Unread 8 Jun 2005, 16:19   #2
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Re: Hacker or paranoia?

disconnect from internet... format HDD


reinstall everything before re connecting to internet and make sure your anti virus is the first thing you update
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Unread 8 Jun 2005, 16:24   #3
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Re: Hacker or paranoia?

done all that about 6 times
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Unread 8 Jun 2005, 16:32   #4
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Re: Hacker or paranoia?

I think your computer has caught teh AI.
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Re: Hacker or paranoia?

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Re: Hacker or paranoia?

If i had to diagnose it with anything it would be schitzophrenia
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Re: Hacker or paranoia?

to be fair, if you have done all that and you are still convinced that its hacked, all you can do is put another HDD in and see what happens
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Re: Hacker or paranoia?

Use a decent firewall.
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Re: Hacker or paranoia?

unplug your computer from the internet, bury your modem in a hole at least 5 miles from your house and never come back online
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Re: Hacker or paranoia?

You have a virus (.) - Replace the drive.
Avast antivirus has proven much better then norton, and its free @ avast.com
Zone Alarm still offers a free firewall and for WiFi check out lucidlink.com for
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Re: Hacker or paranoia?

Er, there is absolutely no need to replace the drive. Why throw away a peice of hardware that is in perfect working order?
It should be enough to reformat it, assuming boot sector virus protection is on in the BIOS. If not, delete and recreate the partition table too - however, boot sector and filesystem level viruses are now very rare as they all operate within a very narrow range of methods, and as such are easily detected by modern software.

I realise this is all rather late since the original post was a while ago.
The disappearence of norton antivirus is very possibly down to an emailed trojan or some spy/adware you mistakenly downloaded from edonkey (although in both cases you would have needed to open the attachment / download). Many trojans and soy/adware program will attempt to disable spyware and virus protection.
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