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Unread 29 Nov 2010, 00:32   #1
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Is this the worst round ever?

Just my opinion but I think yes. I can't comment on Rounds 1&2 as I only started near the end of rd 2 but having played the rest I don't remember a worse round.

There have been more one sided rounds, there have been worse stats ( wait, I may be wrong there ) there have been rounds with lamer alliance collusion and there have beens rounds with greater technical issues. I simply dont remember a round where everything about the game has failed so miserably.

If people can think of a worse round, remind me, I am old and my memory is failing :-)
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Unread 29 Nov 2010, 00:43   #2
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Re: Is this the worst round ever?

One of the great things about looking at the past through rose-tinted glasses is that it makes everything current suck.

Then again, looking at PA's past through rose-tinted glasses just makes everything look vaguely brownish.
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Re: Is this the worst round ever?

round 5 i think, when spinners bright idea was to make the paralels with the shorter eta's as opposed to the clusters - that was bad!
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Unread 29 Nov 2010, 09:18   #4
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Re: Is this the worst round ever?

... splitting the game into basically 25 different games within the game, but each was still bigger than the game is today, i totally sucked in r5... went on holiday without going into vac and died horribly but i dont remember it as a bad round, it depended on your para, this round has been bad for everyone, unless app enjoyed it.
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Re: Is this the worst round ever?

With PA these days the worst round is always the next one.
Simply because nobody has the balls to take the right decisions and prefer to keep the dominant powers happy, winning without fighting. For them PA is little more than a Sim planet now.
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Re: Is this the worst round ever?

I blame IMP, CT, and ND HCs for ruining this round for being tactical spastics.
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Re: Is this the worst round ever?

I have no particular problem with what CT and ND did. They found something to ruin and did it.
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Re: Is this the worst round ever?

And they have been doing that for how many rounds now?
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Just this one it seems.
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... splitting the game into basically 25 different games within the game, but each was still bigger than the game is today, i totally sucked in r5... went on holiday without going into vac and died horribly but i dont remember it as a bad round, it depended on your para, this round has been bad for everyone, unless app enjoyed it.
That was round 4 and it was ****ing awesome. Rounds 5, 7 and 10.5 where we saw one block become utterly dominant with ages ago and the universe become so stagnant that the winning block cannibalised itself would have decent shouts to be the worst round ever. Last round was hardly fantastic either.

Realistically what you're seeing now ingame is just total apathy. Pretty much everyone willing to put time into playing this game has been involved in winning alliances a few times. And most of the people who actually still care about doing well don't have any real alliance affiliation due to the fact so many alliances are only around for one round and then **** back off into the sunset so it's difficult to actually establish yourself.
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Re: Is this the worst round ever?

Yes, but riding off into the sunset on the back of a victory was as reasonable a way to head towards the horizon as nothing more than a silhouette as any.

Having not played seriously for as long as a lot of other people here, and never having had a winning alliance (that I wasn't a peon in), I was very much giving it my all last round (for better or worse), and when we won... I realised just now 'not worth it' it was.

PA is just too boring now to put any real effort in. The social aspect is pretty much the only reason people play, so nobody can really be surprised when only a handful of people are actually prepared to try super-hard to gain any kind of personal victory.

I'm glad this round sucks more than last round, as it makes winning that little bit less demeaning, but realistically it's not about to get any better without any expansion in playerbase, which isn't going to happen until the game is marketable again.

This is also why I have high hopes for another up and coming game of a similar nature - it can learn from all of PA's mistakes and hit the ground running, rather than spend years in A&E trying to revive a cold corpse.
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PA is just too boring now to put any real effort in. The social aspect is pretty much the only reason people play, so nobody can really be surprised when only a handful of people are actually prepared to try super-hard to gain any kind of personal victory.
I don't think anyone tried super-hard this round. People certainly tried super-hard to avoid having to put in any effort or avoid any risk though so I guess there's that.

I was talking more about players than HC anyways kenny. Effectively HC need to serve the interests of their members and most people seem to be more interested in not getting incs and farming small alliances that they are in a scenario where they've actually got a chance of getting ****ed up. If their HC then take it upon themselves to try and bring this situation about they can't really complain. Truth be told I can understand it. Putting in the hard graft is ****ing hard. And sometimes you will lose anyways and that's just the way it'll go.

But the truth is it's ****ing boring this way. The only problem is that there are enough boring people around who want to keep playing for absolutely meaningless planet ranks that they still form a large part of the core in pa who are actually still active enough to make a difference. It's a lot easier to just recruit people you know will be active, or join the most active group out there, from every perspective. Then you can be active and have a good planet and play with other active people. There's nothing wrong with that either, playing with inactives is ****ing dull as shit. It's just that there's only like 50 actives out there.

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It'll either suck in the exact same ways or be nowhere near the same game. The best thing about pa was that it was immersive to the point of being ridiculous purely through how competitive and time-intensive it was. If you lose that, and you'll have to because it's a different internet now to 2000/01, it just won't be the same game.
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But the truth is it's ****ing boring this way. The only problem is that there are enough boring people around who want to keep playing for absolutely meaningless planet ranks that they still form a large part of the core in pa who are actually still active enough to make a difference. It's a lot easier to just recruit people you know will be active, or join the most active group out there, from every perspective. Then you can be active and have a good planet and play with other active people. There's nothing wrong with that either, playing with inactives is ****ing dull as shit. It's just that there's only like 50 actives out there.

It'll either suck in the exact same ways or be nowhere near the same game. The best thing about pa was that it was immersive to the point of being ridiculous purely through how competitive and time-intensive it was. If you lose that, and you'll have to because it's a different internet now to 2000/01, it just won't be the same game.
It's the advertising and marketing potential to bring in a much bigger playerbase that I'm most eagerly anticipating, but you're right - it'll probably have as few similarities as it can get away with.

The game would even become a lot more fun if people stopped caring about who wins, and just concentrate on having their own fun. NewDawn and CT did that this round, and decided to make their round about screwing Imp for 'member poaching', and while I disagree with their reasoning you have to applaud them for playing their own game, rather than worry about everybody else's.

This Christmas round should be fun if it goes ahead though, I will probably play that one - but I'll not give a full round another go again short of a complete overhaul.
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That was round 4 and it was ****ing awesome. Rounds 5, 7 and 10.5 where we saw one block become utterly dominant with ages ago
Wasn't round 5 the eastern europe cheaters round ?
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Wasn't round 5 the eastern europe cheaters round ?
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Re: Is this the worst round ever?

I'm sure we get this thread every round. :/
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I can't answer this question but I do know that if rounds have been getting successively worse since I last played they must probably all be paying you guys to play now.
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round 5 i think, when spinners bright idea was to make the paralels with the shorter eta's as opposed to the clusters - that was bad!
No it was necessary in round 4 to stop people from exploiting a bug with cluster allocation, which would have gifted LDK a fortress cluster.
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I have no particular problem with what CT and ND did. They found something to ruin and did it.
Their own alliance ?
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Not really, no.
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