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Unread 26 Feb 2014, 00:27   #201
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Re: r 5 5 mid round sumup

I still consider most people in Vikings my friend, not sure where they get the idea that we backstabbed them :-( and wth Andyman what did i ever do to you! lol <3
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Unread 26 Feb 2014, 00:35   #202
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Re: r 5 5 mid round sumup

ah right my mistake, so your saying if you back stab an alliance that you haven't worked with that's fine?

However, if things don't go your way in the following round and you get politics wrong then everyone is horrible mean and should cry themselves to sleep?

I have no idea what politics have been like this round, however, if we did do something a little backhanded it sounds like from your alliances previous actions you can't really complain and just experience a dose of your own medicine!
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Re: r 5 5 mid round sumup

What are you even on about? You're either pretty naive or very stupid. I vote the latter.

Vikings/Faceless had a unique relationship, something that you wouldn't understand.
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Unread 26 Feb 2014, 01:22   #204
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Re: r 5 5 mid round sumup

Half of faceless core is more like it.
I personally wanted us to be with Vikings, but i get the lack of trust when nothing was set firmly. I would have been pissed if i was Vikings too. However less just reasons than threats have caused wars before!
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Dear Clouds,
I'd be pissed off, if I was your member. Even worse is that you, still haven't told them the truth! Your just pushing the blame cause you screwed up. You did this to vikings. not me, not ck, not faceless. You sent the message sunday morning threatening us. Stop blaming other people cause you did something stupid.
Backstabbing implies we had some kinda deal. Sunday morning when you msged ck you said "We no longer wanted to talk to Santa". We were supposed to have a meeting, cause our deal had ended on Friday! Then you threaten us. Saying you were going to get ult/hr/rock/fang to hit us with you... explain how i back stabbed you? This all happened BEFORE we moved against vikings!

You said that stuff first. We reacted like any alliance with good politics would. Made sure you were unable to follow threw with your threat. Then target the people that made the threat.

You made vikings that threat, Clouds. Angry vikings should be pissed off at your stupid ass. (p.s he did this all without telling Rex)

Own up bud! when you screw up, your supposed to take the blame. Then work towards making it right. You can't even do that for your members? give me a break. They deserve a HC that is willing to at least tell them the truth.

I'm not going to argue and flame back in this thread. However if you got an honest question about what really happened between face/tgv pm me. I'll tell the truth. I got nothing to hide.
I stand by my political choice. I didn't back stabbed anyone.
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Unread 26 Feb 2014, 03:45   #206
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Vikings shouldnt talk... Remember how you royally buttfked fang 2 rounds ago...? Way worse than faceless Did to you this round. What goes around comes around in planetarion aswell. I Still like you guys though!
Actually Buddah that isnt quite correct. Your missing a whole lot of things regarding that round and Fang was the one that left Vikings hanging and hence why I refused any long term deals with fang for the rest of the round.

If you want the full story you know where to find me. I am not going to air it out on the forums.

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I still consider most people in Vikings my friend, not sure where they get the idea that we backstabbed them :-( and wth Andyman what did i ever do to you! lol <3

Hehe very questionable moves done by Faceless and various promises made that were broken. You tell me how you would define that.

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Sorry Santa but you and ck played me like a fiddle. Well played and all that stuff. Meeting was supposed to be Monday, check your WA log. I blew off the meeting because on fri/sat Face put 40-48 fleets on us with each wave consisting of 4-8 man team ups with 6mill+ FR value attack ships and then Sunday you hit a viking fort....and you expect me to make a deal with you after all that hostility. FK that. Well played on your part but dont try to only tell one side.

Faceless played their politics great this round, no doubt about that. So congrats if you do win but dont think your sh.. dont stink.
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on fri/sat Face put 40-48 fleets on us with each wave consisting of 4-8 man team ups with 6mill+ FR value attack ships
Just fyi, my BG has attacked with all 6-7 members in each attack the whole round. Most Faceless BGs attack with big numbers and we had a lot of value into Fr. Also, those 2 nights we gal raided, and we even sent you screenshots of our webby with all the tgts showing you that it wasnt just viks being hit...but w/e, no matter what we say you guys will just disagree.

I would have been uber pissed if i was in vikings no doubt, but calling what happened a backstab is just a flat out lie that apparently you or Clouds has told your whole ally.

Anyway, i still <3 you guys :-D
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Just fyi, my BG has attacked with all 6-7 members in each attack the whole round. Most Faceless BGs attack with big numbers and we had a lot of value into Fr. Also, those 2 nights we gal raided, and we even sent you screenshots of our webby with all the tgts showing you that it wasnt just viks being hit...but w/e, no matter what we say you guys will just disagree.

I would have been uber pissed if i was in vikings no doubt, but calling what happened a backstab is just a flat out lie that apparently you or Clouds has told your whole ally.

Anyway, i still <3 you guys :-D
Like I said there is a whole lot of other pieces that your missing and I am not going to air them out on here. You know where to find me if you want some things that probably havent been mentioned to you at all.
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Re: r 5 5 mid round sumup

So who's gonna win?
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So who's gonna win?
HEROES have already won, 46 nights of uninterrupted sleep ftw
ps. Vikings hitting heroes 118 times is soooo lol
pps invite just me or does clouds not have the right temperament to hc efficiently?
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ps. Vikings hitting heroes 118 times is soooo lol
That 118 refers to the times HEROES hit Vikings.
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If Faceless have got themselves into a position where they can win the rank and have 6 slots to add score to then i think you have to say well done.

I personally dont like Faceless but if they have managed to maneuver themselves into that position then go for it, find 6 recruits. With bonus you could probably late start 6 planets now and get them to 1 mill score each
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Both RexDrax and I have been honest and truthful with our members, keeping them informed with honest and truthful politics, supplying them with accurate logs too.

I am getting fedup of repeating my self continuously, because it appears that no-one from Faceless are capable of reading. So I shall repeat this one final time. You and CoolKat took my "warning" of "We will crash" completely out of context. As stated and explained before, it was a calculated risk because we didn't think that CoolKat was prepared to crash 300k value. No-where did I or any other Vikings representative threaten Faceless as a whole.

To further elaborate on events to follow, I notified CoolKat that "I" did not need to talk to Santa anymore because I was under the assumption that the talk with him was an informative one. Again, you took this completely out of context and overreacted.

Shortly afterwards, Faceless started to become hostile which soon followed with a coordination with the Spore block (if necessary I'm sure a Spore representative can confirm this to which they have already to me).

At least admit that you used us to your own political advantage, but please don't say that I or any other Vikings HC have been dishonest with our members.

According to RexDrax, we had a fort avoidance until the Monday where we would continue discussions, and I've never known RexDrax to lie. You, SantaCruz on the other hand, are a proven liar and backstabber. I refer to the round when FAnG went back on an agreement with TGV to which you were doing FAnG's politics.

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Re: r 5 5 mid round sumup

The fort nap had ended on thursday to my knowledge, hence why we gal raided fri/sat. and then after the whole situation between you and ck and santa or w/e it turned into us hitting a vik fort on monday or tuesday AFTER the fort nap had ended. You calling us backstabbers is a flat out lie is what we are saying, is it upsetting to you what happened, sure, but not a backstab at all.
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Re: r 5 5 mid round sumup

Quick update, only a couple days left, and top 3 (all contenders) are still allied/NAP'd, good going guys...
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Quick update, only a couple days left, and top 3 (all contenders) are still allied/NAP'd, good going guys...
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Why didn't Vikings accept the Faceless NAP ingame? I don't see the cons of solidating things with an ingame nap after having sex all round to everyone's knowledge anyway..
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Quick update, only a couple days left, and top 3 (all contenders) are still allied/NAP'd, good going guys...
Quite frankly, we don't need more incoming, why start another war when a block is hitting you!
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Quite frankly, we don't need more incoming, why start another war when a block is hitting you!
That's what politics are for GM you guys all chose to let the round play out like this, you can't blame the 'Anti-Block' who you warred from the start for how it has turned out.
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Quick update, only a couple days left, and top 3 (all contenders) are still allied/NAP'd, good going guys...
During that last week seemed a way easier task to bring PA back to 10k players than to make someone hit Faceless. For now they seem to be in advantage in this "Who plays dead better?" round.
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The fort nap had ended on thursday to my knowledge, hence why we gal raided fri/sat. and then after the whole situation between you and ck and santa or w/e it turned into us hitting a vik fort on monday or tuesday AFTER the fort nap had ended. You calling us backstabbers is a flat out lie is what we are saying, is it upsetting to you what happened, sure, but not a backstab at all.
The fort nap was set to expire on thursday idd. On friday there was a chat between rexdrax and santa about extending the agreement. Both rexdrax and santa showed very willing to extend until at least monday when another chat was planned, but for some reason(santa going afk) no definite yes was given by both rexdrax and santa (there was some staggling to go from a fort nap to a full nap from santa's side). Santa's last statement was:"so we'll do an agreement until we can speak further?" to which rexdrax replied: "What agreement?" clearly pointing to the full nap offer by santa earlier in the conversation.

Clearly santa used the 'ambiguous' end of that conversation to justify any hits on Vikings. I am 100% sure Rexdrax thought the agreement was continued, as he texted me to ask me to be online on monday to sit in on the talks, to iron out some reservations santa had toward us.
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"Who plays dead better?" round.
That gets my vote for next rounds name, and all names to come afterwards. Perfect description
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Why didn't Vikings accept the Faceless NAP ingame? I don't see the cons of solidating things with an ingame nap after having sex all round to everyone's knowledge anyway..
We didn't take the nap ingame because (and as explained to SantaCruz/CoolKat multiple times) we were trying to protect both Vikings AND Faceless politically until ND had confirmed their avoidance with us. Unfortunately, NewDawn took some time to get back to us.

There were certain variables to consider when taking the ingame nap with Faceless. First and foremost, the Spore/CT/ND block. We, the Vikings HCs, made a calculated decision to secure the ND nap first, to reduce any coordinated hits on Vikings/Faceless (Faceless had an avoidance with Conspiracy at the time). Unfortunately, by the time NewDawn had gotten back to us Faceless had withdrawn their request, to which we forwarded our concerns directly to SantaCruz.

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That's what politics are for GM you guys all chose to let the round play out like this, you can't blame the 'Anti-Block' who you warred from the start for how it has turned out.
well, to win you first must stop ultores winning, 6/7 rounds won... now 6 out of 8.

we are not blaming anyone for how the round has played out, other than crashers. We were in the running for #1 and it was a good fight.

I'm a peon now so i can blame Doza!!!
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we are not blaming anyone for how the round has played out, other than crashers. We were in the running for #1 and it was a good fight.

I'm a peon now so i can blame Doza!!!
The current version of ultores is a disgrace to the name, the ally has become weaker and weaker ever since the 4th or so round, but this round has just been awful.
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We didn't take the nap ingame because (and as explained to SantaCruz/CoolKat multiple times) we were trying to protect both Vikings AND Faceless politically until ND had confirmed their avoidance with us. Unfortunately, NewDawn took some time to get back to us.

There were certain variables to consider when taking the ingame nap with Faceless. First and foremost, the Spore/CT/ND block. We, the Vikings HCs, made a calculated decision to secure the ND nap first, to reduce any coordinated hits on Vikings/Faceless (Faceless had an avoidance with Conspiracy at the time). Unfortunately, by the time NewDawn had gotten back to us, Faceless had withdrawn their request, to which we forwarded our concerns directly to SantaCruz.
I thought everyone knew you were napped and working together anyway? I would believe Spore/CT/ND was aware by pt200 at latest? If it was a "calculated decision"/risk i'm sure you had thought of this potential outcome, and still decided to wait for ND(without letting faceless know what was stalling?)?

Sorry, i'm just bored really. The term backstabber is thrown around losely, but in the end noone did anything other than everyone has done before(including yourself) as far as i can tell.
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Re: r 5 5 mid round sumup

We were actually going to cast you as Judge Judy for this, mz!
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If Faceless have got themselves into a position where they can win the rank and have 6 slots to add score to then i think you have to say well done.

I personally dont like Faceless but if they have managed to maneuver themselves into that position then go for it, find 6 recruits. With bonus you could probably late start 6 planets now and get them to 1 mill score each
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Nicely played spore!
Things Just got interresting! May the best ally win
And dont give us a bullshit exuse like last round, grow some balls and say you broke the nap to win!
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Lets see which ally is desperate enough to backstab their friends and go for the win!
Sup pals? I predicted this would happen a few days ago. Desperation is a wonderful thing. It can make you be very unpredictable... or very predictable in this case.
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Re: r 5 5 mid round sumup

so spore have now backstabbed faceless by terminating their end of round nap before the end of round :O
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Karma.
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where are the Connovartard rants and bitcher fights im tired of watching the clouds on this webby ;p
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The Special Olympics is 4 yearly, Clouds is in training so he can compete with those pro's
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where are the Connovartard rants and bitcher fights im tired of watching the clouds on this webby ;p
I got a self confidence crisis atm, im so unsure if im gonna deliver to my fanbase expectations.
Though im reading clouds post with great interest, some nice perspectives
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Sweet, sweet justice.
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Sweet, sweet justice.
Just the opposite, tbh
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