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Unread 7 May 2010, 22:23   #51
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Re: Asc/THINLYVEILEDTHREAT

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Must say I find it amusing that vsn is pissed at asc for stabbing them when vsn stabbed apprime AND ganged up on app with 4-5 allies....
well done Cartman.
And Apprime didn't sk vsn on a random attack and broke the nap, right?

Don't get me wrong, I am not pissed. We won this round. I only dislike how some people think this was a cool thing when it was nothing more than cheap backstabbing. VsN couldnt even counterattack your #1 because it was all "unofficial" ASC planets comming at us thus ASC officially not breaking the nap. Fair play right?
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Unread 7 May 2010, 22:28   #52
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Re: Asc/THINLYVEILEDTHREAT

ok so we galattack one gal that has a "prominent" vsn member in and u see that as starting a war? and whats up with setting up 4-5 allies against a 45man tag?
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Unread 7 May 2010, 22:38   #53
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ok so we galattack one gal that has a "prominent" vsn member in and u see that as starting a war? and whats up with setting up 4-5 allies against a 45man tag?
That only came after 8:3 pussying out and into vacation. 45man tag yeah, but a defpool of 3 times that because of fencegals.
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Re: Asc/THINLYVEILEDTHREAT

when 8.3 was pussying out and going into vac mode.. u and the rest already set up the 4-5 ally block.. u were ment to hit 8.3 that night and thats why they went vac mode.. so dont really understand what u mean by "it came after" and u shouldnt talk that much about fencegals as vsn had alot of em aswell
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Unread 7 May 2010, 22:56   #55
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when 8.3 was pussying out and going into vac mode.. u and the rest already set up the 4-5 ally block.. u were ment to hit 8.3 that night and thats why they went vac mode.. so dont really understand what u mean by "it came after" and u shouldnt talk that much about fencegals as vsn had alot of em aswell
That's correct mate. And I'm still unhappy about what happened between vsn and app. We kicked some ass together, you helped us a lot.

But sking a napped planet is a declaration of war. Still I think this problem could have been solved if people were ready to listen to each other or if those sking planets had been punished or whatever.

The hit on 8 3 and everything else happened after some of your specialists sked us. Trust me I didn't enjoy attacking you guys with all those guys we fought against last round but that'S all the outcome of a failed diplomacy.
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Unread 7 May 2010, 22:57   #56
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having groups of alliances attacking top gals has gone on for ages, how was this different? It was the move in to vacation that turned something very temporary (for one night) into something more permanent and focused on app not a gal.
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It's pretty sad that this is the only way to still have fun in PA . I don't think I've seen my gal more active this round than on the tick we did this!
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Unread 7 May 2010, 23:11   #58
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u got it wrong.. we got told by ur own that block was formed and that it was going for apprime.. starting with 8.3 obviously since it was cardi's gal.. and as for the sks i dont know why they were in those fleets.. it was of no intention to hit other than to roid.. so 8.3 going into vac mode had nothing to do with 4-5 allies going after app.. that was decided before the vac mode...
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VsN couldnt even counterattack your #1 because it was all "unofficial" ASC planets comming at us thus ASC officially not breaking the nap. Fair play right?
What? You got it all wrong, man. Just because we left tag doesn't mean we aren't Ascendancy any more. We totally broke our nap with you in order to attack you. Just because there's a page ingame that says otherwise doesn't make it so. You would have been well within your rights to attack dedin back.

No, the reason you couldn't counter-attack us was because there wasn't enough time left. Which is why we waited until the last possible tick.
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Re: Asc/THINLYVEILEDTHREAT

Bastards planed it to well GG anyways It didnt make any difference anyway, as i think the crbs was landing without the support from ascendancy.
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And dedin would've won without it, too. In the end it didn't really change anything. We had fun, though, that's something.
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Seeing people crying on AD about it was worth that.
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And dedin would've won without it, too. In the end it didn't really change anything. We had fun, though, that's something.
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Re: Asc/THINLYVEILEDTHREAT

So at least we know now, that Asc doesnt keep it word. That its willing to break any agreement regardless who its against,

I only hope now, next round.. the community roids Asc to the ground due to them being shit and untrustworthy.
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So at least we know now, that Asc doesnt keep it word. That its willing to break any agreement regardless who its against,

I only hope now, next round.. the community roids Asc to the ground due to them being shit and untrustworthy.

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So at least we know now, that Asc doesnt keep it word. That its willing to break any agreement regardless who its against,

I only hope now, next round.. the community roids Asc to the ground due to them being shit and untrustworthy.
Why should other alliances have any credibility? This round they clearly existed for the benefit of a few select planets rather than any kind of collective achievement.

In the end we were up against a group of planets from several alliances that were fenced together for their own benefit, rather than any alliance (alliances really are becoming flags of convenience) and managed to deliver our man to #1 despite this.

Which is a pretty ****ing hilarious win where I'm standing.
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I only hope now, next round.. the community roids Asc to the ground due to them being shit and untrustworthy.
Yeah, me too.

I mean if that's what makes the game fun for the community, otherwise it would be a pretty silly, pointless and spiteful thing to do, right?
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I want to congrutulate the whinestry for finishing as second best private galaxy! They lliterally had no incomings and they managed not to win the round!
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Asc did all that planning for nothing. Heroic <3
Its hilarious that you think talking to Theamion is proof of anything!
It seemed to me that the leaving tag in order to do it was not about ingame constraints but just so we would be doing it as individuals.
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so whinestry try to get nbr1 private gal and fail. didn't they like nap the whole universe?



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so whinestry try to get nbr1 private gal and fail. didn't they like nap the whole universe?
I would not normally defend them but no, they were the donation gal.
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Who cares? We never wanted to win top gal, we never thought about FC'ing people in the random gals ahead on score unlike people in your gal.
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so whinestry try to get nbr1 private gal and fail. didn't they like nap the whole universe?
This had nothing to do with getting a certain spot in the gal ranking.
There were no naps involved other than what ascendancy had.. maybe you should ask your own alliance why they didn't attack our gal? I don't really think you should talk about napping the universe while being in a major fence gal though.
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It seemed to me that the leaving tag in order to do it was not about ingame constraints but just so we would be doing it as individuals.
Of course im even less in the loop than Theam so what do I know?
Apparently, not very much.
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So at least we know now, that Asc doesnt keep it word. That its willing to break any agreement regardless who its against,

I only hope now, next round.. the community roids Asc to the ground due to them being shit and untrustworthy.
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I lolled. I just based it on ND having told me they had a 72 tick NAP expiry with vsn, thought they meant actual ingame NAP expiry.

Edit: Slight clarification on why we did it. I thought 12.3 and dmnts were complete ****tards. When dmnts defended his apprime galmates after mailing the vsn tag telling them not to def apprime ingal I tlost basically all respect for him. I have absolutely no regrets on ****ing them over as regards top gal, top planet etc. Quite often I've had to sit back and watch complete faggots win the top ranks, personally I'm rather glad that someone who I would regard as a top man won it this time.
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Who cares? We never wanted to win top gal, we never thought about FC'ing people in the random gals ahead on score unlike people in your gal.
Well we never did it since we basically were under asc arranged incs the whole last week.
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Since when is being in a fence galaxy a taboo!? seriously.. all i heard all rnd, is this issue.. as i pointed to some asc player a while ago.. even asc had "some" planets in fence gals...
So your argument deosn't really count Zotnam.

And just to clarify, i do not regret being in a private gal. As my gal, went under attack from asc in the end of the rnd, and managed to defend excellently. If i remember correctly the first 2 nights one wave landed out of tons of lolwaves.
Now regarding the issue that, if we tried to fc some random planet.. its only because we wanted to win top gal in a "decent" way, rather than.... hitting un allied planets in private gal and getting other alliances to hit the planets we are allied to. and after the fail... leave tag and hit the gal with even bigger lol waves...
anywayz this only shows how much the gal really was organized and succesfull.
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Well since ascendancy was napped to half the universe and used the other half as a flak you can say your private galaxies were the really fenced ones!
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Your galaxy was a fencing piece of shit. It wasn't even the best fencing piece of shit galaxy wihch was, obviously, 8.3. You lost. Get over yourself and move on.
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hahah.. loling, abit tense are we lil jonny?
get over your self..ffs
12:3 outplayed all the private gals in the uni.
fact. issue closed, next....
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hahah.. loling, abit tense are we lil jonny?
get over your self..ffs
12:3 outplayed all the private gals in the uni.
fact. issue closed, next....
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Of course they might have wanted to win top gal(who doesn't?), but there was never a realistic chance of that happening this round.
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Also, reading 12:3's whole 'we outplayed everyone we are the best private gal in the uni' is pretty enjoyable. You sound like kids who got robbed of their lolipop heh.
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Since when is being in a fence galaxy a taboo!? seriously.. all i heard all rnd, is this issue.. as i pointed to some asc player a while ago.. even asc had "some" planets in fence gals...
So your argument deosn't really count Zotnam.

And just to clarify, i do not regret being in a private gal. As my gal, went under attack from asc in the end of the rnd, and managed to defend excellently. If i remember correctly the first 2 nights one wave landed out of tons of lolwaves.
Now regarding the issue that, if we tried to fc some random planet.. its only because we wanted to win top gal in a "decent" way, rather than.... hitting un allied planets in private gal and getting other alliances to hit the planets we are allied to. and after the fail... leave tag and hit the gal with even bigger lol waves...
anywayz this only shows how much the gal really was organized and succesfull.
Who on earth said anything about a taboo? Do you even know what that word means? It's just really poor to accuse another galaxy of napping stuff when you are in the most napped galaxy yourself. I think both JBG and myself posted pretty clearly why we chose to do what we did.

I never arranged any incs on 12:3, ever thought other people than asc were just tired of the bullshit coming from your gal just like it happened with 8:3? I was happy enough to see a random galaxy win, even if it's only because the round setup was stupid.
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Sure I'd like to get top gal, that's not the point.
I never once this round thought, 'hey we got a chance for top1 galaxy, lets try and make that happen and shape asc politics to get that', this is not how asc has ever worked. Whereas your gal had several alliances willing to do that.

Besides, your own alliance was not napped to our gal either, why didn't you attack it? You had plenty of chances to.
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Well since ascendancy was napped to half the universe and used the other half as a flak you can say your private galaxies were the really fenced ones!
How is this in any way close to how the reality was? In the end, there were 3 alliances who could not hit our gal, that's it. And certainly two of those three were added fairly late in the round. But yeah, please enlighten me as to how ascendancy fenced majorly this round, or indeed had protection from more than 4 alliances (a number which you had protecting your gal since pt 1)
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How is this in any way close to how the reality was? In the end, there were 3 alliances who could not hit our gal, that's it. And certainly two of those three were added fairly late in the round. But yeah, please enlighten me as to how ascendancy fenced majorly this round, or indeed had protection from more than 4 alliances (a number which you had protecting your gal since pt 1)
You napped the mighty force of eXcessum. ****ing fencers!
Would surely have taken you all down if not

There are ALWAYS reasons why people break an agreement / backstab someone. Pointing it out over and over doesnt change the fact that alot of people lost trust with asc for comming rounds. You did get the top planet though, and dedin is a worthy winner.
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Unlike r34, am I right?!
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well it wasnt really an unexpected move isnt it? i would do the same if i was in that position too. no biggie, btw naps last week is a bit of a lol really.
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Shitty move? maybe, and as regards to not trusting ascendancy for future rounds to come, there are a couple more alliances/HC's out there i still trust less then ascendancy and that are capable of more shittier moves then this one.
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How is this in any way close to how the reality was? In the end, there were 3 alliances who could not hit our gal, that's it. And certainly two of those three were added fairly late in the round. But yeah, please enlighten me as to how ascendancy fenced majorly this round, or indeed had protection from more than 4 alliances (a number which you had protecting your gal since pt 1)
Well a hit on your galaxy would mean war with asc which most of the alliances didnt want and so they avoided hitting you. Surely if we wanted to fence the round me and carbone would have joined something else than exc wouldnt we? In our galaxy we had 2 vision 2 apprime 2 dlr and 2 exc planets the only alliance that didnt hit us was vision the most incoming fleets i had were from dlr and we were "fenced" to them!
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[14:45] <@Theamion> normal fence means 'if you attack us, our defpool is wtflol huge'
[14:45] <@Theamion> and 'because we have everyone, most allies dont want to attack us'
[14:45] <@Golan> I fully expected to be raped
[14:45] <@Theamion> we worked differently
[14:45] <@Theamion> 'HI, WE ARE ALL ASC, ATTACK US AND WE WILL DO NAUGHTY STUFF AGAINST YOU'
[14:45] <@Theamion> that was the implicit threat
[14:45] <@Theamion> thinly veiled, if you like
[14:46] <@Theamion> however
[14:46] <@Theamion> 'if you attack us, we will lose 50% roids!'
[14:46] <@Theamion> they never got that.

Also, you remind me of gm hunter, that is not a good thing.
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[18:56] <@Munin> <[DDK]gm> disbanding the big asc fence gals will help you <Game> fence gals? <[DDK]gm> yeah <Game> what fence gals do we have? <[DDK]gm> gal full of asc planets, not many alliances with hit them for fear of pissing asc off <[DDK]gm> = uber fence <Game> lol thats not a fence <[DDK]gm> in a way it is (16 more quotes match this search)
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Re: Asc/THINLYVEILEDTHREAT

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Well a hit on your galaxy would mean war with asc which most of the alliances didnt want and so they avoided hitting you. Surely if we wanted to fence the round me and carbone would have joined something else than exc wouldnt we? In our galaxy we had 2 vision 2 apprime 2 dlr and 2 exc planets the only alliance that didnt hit us was vision the most incoming fleets i had were from dlr and we were "fenced" to them!
Really? You are going to claim you did not fence with 4 alliances in the gal? Surely if having all planets in a gal in one alliance is sooo much better you could just have done that. There's no way being a fortress gal worked as an advantage, other pure asc gals did have incs so it must have been something else.. The big attack on 7:7 showed that xan gals can indeed be roided so not sure that's why either. I am honestly wondering why no-one even tried.
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Unread 8 May 2010, 18:16   #99
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Re: Asc/THINLYVEILEDTHREAT

I tried ask JBG!
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Re: Asc/THINLYVEILEDTHREAT

Also, outplayed?

1) 12:3 and 10:4 ended on roughly the same score and then there was a huge gap for the next privgal.

2) it takes 2 parties playing for one to outplay the other, we just like, cruised through the round, nothing of this playing jibbajabba you are talking about.
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