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Unread 27 Apr 2010, 19:22   #51
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Re: Sad change in planetarion history

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Apprime solve their politics in an unorthodox way yes. We often raid top planets and gals just because its a challenge. This round it led to a lot of whining from planets/gals we roided, instead of sucking it up and deal with it. Our response to this whining will always be the same,which is:

Shut the **** up, if you want to have a war because your precious planet lost some rocks, please bring your alliance we will gladly fight you.

We are not afraid of a war, but if a larger tag struggle to fight us then maybe they should just **** off and hit something easier, not run around like crying mamasboys and have everyone else do the job for them.

SUCK IT UP AND PLAY ON!
So you threaten everyone, come to the forums and whine when they hit you and then tell others to suck it up? and to think at one point I was convinced you weren't shit.
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Read it again pal
I think you should read our conversation of last night again. :/

You still say it's pathetic (not with that word exactly) that 5 alliances gang up on Apprime. But it was Apprime that provoked all of these alliances. In other words, we didn't 'fetch our friends' - these 'friends' were already on Apprime's doorstep waiting for cardi.

Apprime made its own bed and now has to lie in it.
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So..which will you defend if 8:3 get incomings and then Vision hit your other planets...somehow i cant see you prioritzing anyone other than 8:3 in that situation...which kind of makes your statement "we will only def versus Vision" redundant, no?

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The easiest way to work it would be to get NewDawn to hit 8:3 (who they're not going to defend against) and then get Vision to hit random other App gals, who they're not going to prioritize against.

Shit, does this mean everyone gets to land?

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Apprime made its own bed and now has to lie in it.
Do you really think cardi needs any encouragement to lie? Isn't that, amongst others, what got him in to this trouble in the first place?
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As i said last night and still agree it is retarded what the uni is doing, all dancing to one alliances tune yet these allies have there blindfolds on and in my personall and not anyone elses opinion i believe it to cowardess that has driven them to this but i agree flying around bashing everyone is gonna upset people!! and lets face it even if app hadnt just javing cardi in ally is enough for uni to be upset it would seem
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Re: Sad change in planetarion history

Apprime can always attack Vision if it matters that much to them, but reading the above, they've only themselves to blame really. Attacking each other is also a bit counterproductive - 53 of 133 Apprime and Vision planets share galaxies with the other alliance, which is nearly 40%. It's been fairly obvious there are close ties between both alliances and those ties don't really exist for their respective tags' benefit - they're purely concerned with personal score.

All Vision have done is take a fortunate political situation and exploit it to the maximum and win. A pure political victory. You have to be lucky when you're at the level of Vision, but they've done it and fair play to them, even if it is excruciatingly dull.

As for the rest. Mass deletion of Apprime might open the game up politically to change the outcome. But really when we've alliances cutting their nose to spite their face you might as well end the ticks now.
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Re: Sad change in planetarion history

"Just having cardi in Apprime" wouldn't be enough, having cardi speak (threaten) on behalf of Apprime is.

The thing is, intimidation works up to a certain point, because no alliance wants to 'feel the wrath' of Apprime on its own. But at and beyond that certain point, when several of the intimidated alliances gather together, it turns on you.

Apprime could've also played 'nice politics' with a few alliances, but instead they chose to upset the entire universe. That's fine and all if they want to do it that way, and now they'll suffer the consequences.

There's nothing cowardly about it. If you don't have the quality or skill to beat someone, then numbers are just as viable a tactic.
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As i said last night and still agree it is retarded what the uni is doing, all dancing to one alliances tune
No, they're not. We just all happen to be in the middle of the same dance.
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Re: Sad change in planetarion history

Here's the dance by the way
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Re: Sad change in planetarion history

i lolled at least

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Unread 27 Apr 2010, 20:40   #62
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Dunno i just saw it from my own view and as it was a public forum voiced my opinion maybe i am wrong maybe i am rite. It has just become about numbers not skill in anyway.

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I dont get all the whining either, as obviously Cardi's political style was always based on raw fear bound to piss someone off eventually as the past wud also reveal!

doesnt change the fact tho, that ganging 350 ish vs 48 can never be considered a very honorable win? :P

... tho I wudnt announce Vision winners of the round yet...
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I dont get all the whining either, as obviously Cardi's political style was always based on raw fear bound to piss someone off eventually as the past wud also reveal!
I think you're confusing raw fear with something more akin to worrying about a bowel infection.

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doesnt change the fact tho, that ganging 350 ish vs 48 can never be considered a very honorable win? :P
Honour is what losers whine about and winners never worry about. I don't remember us worrying about it last round when our block actually ended up being bigger than the opposing one, despite the fact we were #1 with a clear lead the whole time.
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Honour is what losers whine about and winners never worry about. I don't remember us worrying about it last round when our block actually ended up being bigger than the opposing one, despite the fact we were #1 with a clear lead the whole time.
Ending up being bigger, by completely raping opposition to the ground is QUITE different from the current situation tho? :P

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Ending up being bigger, by completely raping opposition to the ground is QUITE different from the current situation tho? :P

Honour is what real winners put over victory itself

Go watch 300 ffs!
As far as I remember it was the persians who used the spies and shit, not the spartans

In a war game honour is entirely personal. Personally I'd never go into vacation mode to avoid incs. Personally I wouldn't sms people in different alliances recall messages because they happened to be defending against me/my alliance. Personally I'd never run around threatening far smaller alliances with incoming because they said something mean about me. Doesn't mean anyone else has to follow the beat of my drum though.
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You realise the 300 lost, right?

as u seem to be serious, Ill explain it to u... they lost with HONOUR, and SO WILL WE!
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In a war game honour is entirely personal. Personally I'd never go into vacation mode to avoid incs. Personally I wouldn't sms people in different alliances recall messages because they happened to be defending against me/my alliance. Personally I'd never run around threatening far smaller alliances with incoming because they said something mean about me. Doesn't mean anyone else has to follow the beat of my drum though.
God knows I did not always agree with Cardi's methods (assuming some of ur examples are based on him) , but gotta have respect for his style of play, despite the complete lack of polite social skills :P

imagine if noone in uni had balls, for gods sake I was almost bored to death until now
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God knows I did not always agree with Cardi's methods (assuming some of ur examples are based on him) , but gotta have respect for his style of play, despite the complete lack of polite social skills :P

imagine if noone in uni had balls, for gods sake I was almost bored to death until now
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God knows I did not always agree with Cardi's methods (assuming some of ur examples are based on him) , but gotta have respect for his style of play, despite the complete lack of polite social skills :P
Sure, I like some of what he does. Hell it's not like anything cardi learned that was useful he didn't learn from me! And talking shit to alliances the same size or bigger than you I can respect, although in some cases it's retarded. But none of those examples I listed I respect at all.

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This doesn't make much sense to be honest. It's hardly like apprime were out there living the brave solo fight while they made mostly fenced galaxies and then NAPed DLR.
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Re: Sad change in planetarion history

Lets get things straight though.

Vision was hitting apprime planets. Thats fair enough since the planets who were outside vision gals, were free targets in galraids. We knew this and covered the incs without dwelling about it. A deal is a deal.
One morning we had a TP around 0600 gametime or so, and we picked a fat gal with no Apprimes in. p3n/ct/nd/vsn/oddr were represented.
If you sit on 2500 roids when Apprime has TP, you can bet on that some people will build some decent waves and try to hit that. This happened and Vision did not defend him, which lead to roids lost. BUHU!

The agreement was never broken from either side. I doubt that the fleets launched on our planets from vision was just for entertainment. They wanted to get roids too, thats the whole idea of attacking.
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Re: Sad change in planetarion history

Ok, i came back after ~18 rounds and i am amazed that ppl learned nothing. The ONLY alliance which did absolutly everything right is Vision. Their Round Win is certain since they napped ND. What amazes me are the following things:

Why is anyone surprised that Cardi handles politics like a girl on her period?
Why is ND still happy to settle for #2 instead of growing some balls and fight?
Why didn't I vacation mode earlier in this piss boring round?
Why do some ppl on AD still believe that they are gods biggest gift while they are nothing more than sorry creatures?
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This doesn't make much sense to be honest. It's hardly like apprime were out there living the brave solo fight while they made mostly fenced galaxies and then NAPed DLR.
Apprime wanted to fight Ascendancy, but you chickened out and chose to dwell on it until you had the chance to bring multiple alliances along.

Fact is that Apprime is the only alliance that has never participated in a block whos only purpose is to destroy another alliance. Apprime dont break NAPs or lie, if we say we are gonna do something we do it. Honestly i dont respect the Ascendancy it used to be, it is run by pussies now.
Remember in round 30 and 31, where everyone were so holy about being alone, yelling bad things about the block and how unfair things were. A few of us still live by that word, and will never participate in such a sad crusade.

Ascendancy as it is now are hypocrites. You sir jonny are the worst, and should keep your mouth shut, as you in several occasions have bitched on about the big block hammering on your door.
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Apprime wanted to fight Ascendancy, but you chickened out and chose to dwell on it until you had the chance to bring multiple alliances along.

Fact is that Apprime is the only alliance that has never participated in a block whos only purpose is to destroy another alliance. Apprime dont break NAPs or lie, if we say we are gonna do something we do it. Honestly i dont respect the Ascendancy it used to be, it is run by pussies now.
Remember in round 30 and 31, where everyone were so holy about being alone, yelling bad things about the block and how unfair things were. A few of us still live by that word, and will never participate in such a sad crusade.

Ascendancy as it is now are hypocrites. You sir jonny are the worst, and should keep your mouth shut, as you in several occasions have bitched on about the big block hammering on your door.
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You got it wrong dude, we have sucked this up a long time ago and we made plans on how to make the best of it. I dont expect you and your squad here to like what i'm saying, but its ****ing accurate thats for sure!
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Apprime wanted to fight Ascendancy, but you chickened out and chose to dwell on it until you had the chance to bring multiple alliances along.

Fact is that Apprime is the only alliance that has never participated in a block whos only purpose is to destroy another alliance. Apprime dont break NAPs or lie, if we say we are gonna do something we do it. Honestly i dont respect the Ascendancy it used to be, it is run by pussies now.
Remember in round 30 and 31, where everyone were so holy about being alone, yelling bad things about the block and how unfair things were. A few of us still live by that word, and will never participate in such a sad crusade.

Ascendancy as it is now are hypocrites. You sir jonny are the worst, and should keep your mouth shut, as you in several occasions have bitched on about the big block hammering on your door.
Wow...talk about ret-conning reality there...****ing hell...
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Apprime wanted to fight Ascendancy, but you chickened out and chose to dwell on it until you had the chance to bring multiple alliances along.

Fact is that Apprime is the only alliance that has never participated in a block whos only purpose is to destroy another alliance. Apprime dont break NAPs or lie, if we say we are gonna do something we do it. Honestly i dont respect the Ascendancy it used to be, it is run by pussies now.
Remember in round 30 and 31, where everyone were so holy about being alone, yelling bad things about the block and how unfair things were. A few of us still live by that word, and will never participate in such a sad crusade.

Ascendancy as it is now are hypocrites. You sir jonny are the worst, and should keep your mouth shut, as you in several occasions have bitched on about the big block hammering on your door.
Holy crap HaNzI, I just thought you were an idiot - you're outright dellusional
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Apprime wanted to fight Ascendancy, but you chickened out and chose to dwell on it until you had the chance to bring multiple alliances along.

Fact is that Apprime is the only alliance that has never participated in a block whos only purpose is to destroy another alliance. Apprime dont break NAPs or lie, if we say we are gonna do something we do it. Honestly i dont respect the Ascendancy it used to be, it is run by pussies now.
Remember in round 30 and 31, where everyone were so holy about being alone, yelling bad things about the block and how unfair things were. A few of us still live by that word, and will never participate in such a sad crusade.

Ascendancy as it is now are hypocrites. You sir jonny are the worst, and should keep your mouth shut, as you in several occasions have bitched on about the big block hammering on your door.

Apprime does bully small alliances, well most of the top 5 do. Threatening us with mass extinction when we hit one off there gals. Wich is really funny seeing most of us don't give a **** if we do well in PA or not.
Have to say i always liked my time in ascendancy (r28 and r32 i believe), and can't see that alliance be much worse off with all the pissers that went to apprime.
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Apprime wanted to fight Ascendancy, but you chickened out and chose to dwell on it until you had the chance to bring multiple alliances along.

Fact is that Apprime is the only alliance that has never participated in a block whos only purpose is to destroy another alliance. Apprime dont break NAPs or lie, if we say we are gonna do something we do it. Honestly i dont respect the Ascendancy it used to be, it is run by pussies now.
Remember in round 30 and 31, where everyone were so holy about being alone, yelling bad things about the block and how unfair things were. A few of us still live by that word, and will never participate in such a sad crusade.

Ascendancy as it is now are hypocrites. You sir jonny are the worst, and should keep your mouth shut, as you in several occasions have bitched on about the big block hammering on your door.
I can understand to some extent why trolling and flame bating + lying due to politics is allowed on AD, but honestly isn't the above text "bit" over the limit.
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Why is ND still happy to settle for #2 instead of growing some balls and fight?
I have never understood why people consider this is a bad thing. It seems to be entirely rational to avoid fighting vsn when you have already lost one war in which you started with higher value why would you start another when you are starting at a disadvantage? unless you can get allies (which ND would have had difficulties with everyone else worried about app and happy enough to see a vsn win) then it is entirely sensible for ND to avoid war.

Also as an alliance that has won several times before they are probably happy with 2nd (just like asc seems to be happy not to bother bucking up and fighting for the win these days).
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You got it wrong dude, we have sucked this up a long time ago and we made plans on how to make the best of it.
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No, it isn't. R33 apprime set up a much bigger block just to hit asc gals at the end of the round. The same people who led asc back then lead it now (they're the same guys who kicked your ass r33 fyi). I have no idea what happened after the first time we hit cardi's gal. I do know that apprime responded for one night and then nothing happened. I do know that the next time one of us his the other it was you guys bringing along DLR. I never said being in a block was unfair or talked about honour. We worked with loads of people at various points in r30. I don't think apprime/cardi have outright broken NAPs (although cardi telling santa he was roiding light regardless last round was pretty close). Nobody really does that sort of shit though. Everyone tells small lies or bends the truth about who they're hitting or what's going to happen etc though.

Just to respond to some of your """points"""" in random order.
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Having worked closely with apprime in rd 34 i have a lot of respect for some of their members but trying to justify vac mode is loltastic , going vac mode to avoid incs just means your a chicken or a rank whore ( hi reeskero )
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Come on though are u all missing the fact that 353 minimum thats from the 5 allys prob scanners etc can be taken out and u can prob add vgn and ct on top of that list vs 48 is so retarded it is untrue anyone who trys to sit there and waffle back to be me that oh app desevered it etc etc is talking out of there ass quite frankly 2 wrongs dont make a wright so when it comes to ure eorc dont sit there like u think u played the rnd well just remember u got there by numbers not by skill
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Try adding some ****ing commas.
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would, it, really, help, you, understand, tho?
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I always thought Apprime was a Planetarion alliance, not a travel agency.
I bet your whole alliance still thinks cruisers are to take a cruise on, not to cap roids with.
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Firebird: it is a well known fact that members of alliances whose HC use vacation mode tactically deserve to be not only roided but also sk'd into oblivion. Covert ops should also probably be deployed when they can cause distress to targets.

It has always been so since vacation mode was first implemented.

Most rounds people don't have the strong sense of morality that is required to enact this glorious justice.

Despite whatever shortcomings this round has had, this is one area where I think the community can pat themselves on the back and hold their heads high - they are doing the right thing.
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Lmfao are u smoking crack hold there heads high hahahhaa i really have heard it all now go stick ure head in the sand with the rest please and if ure gonna come back with crap like that dont bother
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Firebird: it is a well known fact that members of alliances whose HC use vacation mode tactically deserve to be not only roided but also sk'd into oblivion. Covert ops should also probably be deployed when they can cause distress to targets.

It has always been so since vacation mode was first implemented.

Most rounds people don't have the strong sense of morality that is required to enact this glorious justice.

Despite whatever shortcomings this round has had, this is one area where I think the community can pat themselves on the back and hold their heads high - they are doing the right thing.
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Re: Sad change in planetarion history

On a sidenote, what exactly is the "sad change" in the topic?
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Come on though are u all missing the fact that 353 minimum thats from the 5 allys prob scanners etc can be taken out and u can prob add vgn and ct on top of that list vs 48 is so retarded it is untrue anyone who trys to sit there and waffle back to be me that oh app desevered it etc etc is talking out of there ass quite frankly 2 wrongs dont make a wright so when it comes to ure eorc dont sit there like u think u played the rnd well just remember u got there by numbers not by skill
Getting more numbers on your side is a skill. To phrase it better in the context of this round not getting half the universe against you is a skill. Most appropriately getting half the universe against you is a sign of a lack of that particular skill. If you have HCs who play politics in the sense of "shut up or we'll kill you" then eventually you'll get blocked against because people are either afraid of you or pissed off at you or whatever way you'd prefer to phrase it. At that point you need to be able to defeat or divide the opposition. If you can't then you played your game poorly.
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It's the smartest decision to make.

Vision is bigger than ND, so if they triage attacks and cover vision, they make the difference between vision and apprime smaller.

If they instead cover ND, they make the difference bigger.

It's the only logic decision to make.
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Come on though are u all missing the fact that 353 minimum thats from the 5 allys prob scanners etc can be taken out and u can prob add vgn and ct on top of that list vs 48 is so retarded it is untrue anyone who trys to sit there and waffle back to be me that oh app desevered it etc etc is talking out of there ass quite frankly 2 wrongs dont make a wright so when it comes to ure eorc dont sit there like u think u played the rnd well just remember u got there by numbers not by skill
If 350 vs 48 is so retarded, then don't piss off 350 people.
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Re: Sad change in planetarion history

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On a sidenote, what exactly is the "sad change" in the topic?


Indeed, mz. How, exactly, have the events of this round done anything to alter the documented history of previous rounds?

Would it be going too far to wonder if something had actioned to alter our spacetime continuum, would we even realise?!

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Unread 28 Apr 2010, 14:02   #99
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Thumbs down Re: Sad change in planetarion history

I'm wondering, why do you lot post this crap on PA forums?

Or do you all just like to mock others on forums that are denying you the words that you actually want to use?
Because if that is the case, then I guess you are playing the wrong type of game. And you should go back to school where it's common to bully others with words. Untill some one slams his fist in your puny face and then you have learned that what you just did is not the way to talk to people or get their attention the way you want it. (except if you have a fetish of getting a fist stuffed up your nose ofc.)

Also, the ones you are trying to 'burn' at this moment, might be your alliance mates next round due to the ever shrinking player-base in the universe. And then you are mates, just like that? Seriously.. what is the point of most of these posts here?
Are you _that_ insecure of the size of your weener, that you have to pretend its bigger then some other blokes weener? In my opinion it would make more sense to show that in another way in the game itself where it matters, attack each other - battle for it. Its what planetarion was made for, a war game where you have to fight each other. Forums are not. Forums are a bunch of propaganda normally, but in PA's case its more a board where little frustrated kids battle over the size of their weener and in some cases they even 'stick it up' for their friends little weener.

right, Im done - have fun
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Re: Sad change in planetarion history

Androx you fail at the forums.
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