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Unread 19 Jul 2006, 14:40   #51
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Re: Over-tired!

I cant believe people are still talking after i won this thread.

To recap :

"overtired" for all its stupidity as a word, is a word. As has been mentioned twice now, google it and watch the hits fly.

There is an email from vauxhall there saying "its overtired".

The reason they are saying "overtired" and shaking their heads is because the entire point of the advert is the kids are acting like adults and being patronising. Therefore when they shake theyre heads and say "overtired" they are lamenting the fact that the dad has dropped the china and the mum is snapping at him because theyve had a long day and now they are making stupid mistakes.


"Oh they're tired" simply doesnt make sense in the context of the advert. Imagine it was a baked beans advert and it ended with someone saying "Oh, i'm hungry" in that tone. If it was "Oh, theyre tired" that would suggest that the entire point of the advert is to build up to the fact that they are tired; which isnt the case.

Honestly, people
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Unread 19 Jul 2006, 14:54   #52
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Re: Over-tired!

I don't know about whatever bizzare world deffeh's living in but I've heard parents use the words "oh they're tired" in a patronising manner towards children.

That said, deffeh is scottish so maybe you need to chuck a reference to haggis and glasgow rangers in there before he would remember it.
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Re: Over-tired!

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The thing is, they say it at the same time. You usally only say things alongside someone else if it's one-word. Not a whole phrase. Which is why most people think it's "overtired", I guess.
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Re: Over-tired!

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I don't know about whatever bizzare world deffeh's living in but I've heard parents use the words "oh they're tired" in a patronising manner towards children.

That said, deffeh is scottish so maybe you need to chuck a reference to haggis and glasgow rangers in there before he would remember it.
"Oh they're tired" is a realisation or answer to a question. All 3 of them are saying it. Why would the fat kids say "oh, theyre tired" to the asian kid?

"Overtired" is an analysis / comment.

Just because its not in the dictionary doesnt mean its not popular language. And also, put "vauxhall overtired" into google - every forum on the internet has had this argument and the overtired crew has won every time.

Also, **** the huns and the uda. Up the haggis!
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Re: Over-tired!

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"Ohh they're tired", obviously.
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Re: Over-tired!

They would say 'oh, they're tired' because it's an explanation by the kids of the two parents being grumpy (as a result of being tired, like young kids are prone to do). How are people not seeing this?

It makes much more sense than just saying a random adjective.
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Re: Over-tired!

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"Oh they're tired" is a realisation or answer to a question. All 3 of them are saying it. Why would the fat kids say "oh, theyre tired" to the asian kid?

"Overtired" is an analysis / comment.

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They would say 'oh, they're tired' because it's an explanation by the kids of the two parents being grumpy (as a result of being tired, like young kids are prone to do). How are people not seeing this?

It makes much more sense than just saying a random adjective.
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Re: Over-tired!

ITS ****ING OVERTIRED.

THE ADVERTISING PEOPLE AT VAUXHALL SAID SO.

**** sake, oh, they're tired makes no sense.
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Re: Over-tired!

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ITS ****ING OVERTIRED.

THE ADVERTISING PEOPLE AT VAUXHALL SAID SO.

**** sake, oh, they're tired makes no sense.
IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE!!!!!! OVERTIRED MAKES NO ****ING SENSE AND ANY IDIOT CAN FAKE AN EMAIL!!!!
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Re: Over-tired!

"over tired"

Just because people slur their words together, even in ads, doesn't mean that it is one word.

The PHRASE "over tired" refers to a state of hyper-activity which toddlers are prone to when they stay up to late. They get so tired that they can't clam down. I can't explain it but I have seen it many times. In this excitable state they are difficult to control and are often very cranky. They will run and run and run and suddenly, having exhausted every last scrap of energy, go to sleep in mid-sentence.

The analagous phrase for JBJ would be "over Guninessed."
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The analagous phrase for JBJ would be "over Guninessed."
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Re: Over-tired!

that was certainly an advertising budget well spent.

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Commercial strategery.
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Re: Over-tired!

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that was certainly an advertising budget well spent.

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Re: Over-tired!

Speak for yourself, I'm getting eight. One for every day of the week and two for Sundays.
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I don't know about the rest of the direly impoverished university students posting in this thread but I doubt the number of us buying the new vauxhall is that high.
Yeah, the Toyota Verso's miles better.
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Re: Over-tired!

That's funny, I e-mailed them a couple of days ago to resolve this!

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Dear Mr Savage,

Thank you for your recent correspondence dated 17th July 2006 regarding the current Vauxhall Zafira TV advert.

As requested, I can confirm the last line in the advert is 'oh, they're tired'. I
hope this solves your debate, however, should you require any further
information, please do not hesitate to contact us again.

Thank you again for contacting us and allowing us the opportunity to
comment.

Yours sincerely

Peter Jones
Customer Care Team
SEE!!!!!


(oh and I watched it again on TV and it's still "oh (pause) they're tired")
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Re: Over-tired!

Why would all three of them say "oh, they're tired"???

The asian lad says "it's been a long day for them"
then all three say "over tired" knowingly.

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Read their lips. ITS OVER TIRED.

They pause because they're shit child actors all trying to say it at the same time.
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Re: Over-tired!

Over tired makes no sense, they say 'oh they're tired' and vauxhall themselves have said it's 'oh they're tired' and yet you still believe in 'over tired'?

Have you been spending too much time with travler?
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Re: Over-tired!

It blatantly says "Ooh, they're tired".
Are you people who are saying "overtired" being deliberately argumentative?
Seriously.


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'Over tired' makes more sense to me. And my lip reading skills are top-notch.
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Re: Over-tired!

HOW THE HELL DOES IT MAKE SENSE?
I mean really.
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Re: Over-tired!

Yeah ive come to the conclusion that if you cant actually see that its overtired you must be a retard of some sort. Look at the advert, look at their lips, actually listen to it. Even the sound is "oh vur tired". No one pronounces "theyre" "thur"
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Those who are saying "oh, they're tired" are all grammatical terrorists. We must fight them now or the airwaves will never be safe!
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No one pronounces "theyre" "thur"
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This wasn't a pudding commercial.
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Re: Over-tired!

"Ohh there tired" 100%
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Re: Over-tired!

Never heard or seen the word 'overtired', and what a prime example of a ****ing noncey expression if I ever heard one.

As for the ad, it's clearly, 'Oh, they're tired.'

It's a realisation when they spill all the shit from the boot, the the kids come together with a blatantly obvious explanation.
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They do in Yorkshire
Lancashire actually (Wigan and Bolton more specifically)

I've started saying it a bit now

But anyway, they don't say that so it doesn't matter.

And "over tired" is two words anyway and parents DO say it all the time in the patronising way that the three kids say it with respect to the parents.
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are you all telling me its some sort of giant coincidence that despite all the evidence pointing to overtired, and the fact overtired is indeed a word used in conjunction with young children making mistakes when theyve had a long day?
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Re: Over-tired!

The whole advert is shit.

Who the **** says "fancy a butchers" instead of "fancy a look"?

(yes i know look = hook = butchers meat hook = butchers)
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are you all telling me its some sort of giant coincidence that despite all the evidence pointing to overtired, and the fact overtired is indeed a word used in conjunction with young children making mistakes when theyve had a long day?
Nah but you were wrong when you said "oh they're tired" didn't make any sense. Hell it's practically the same phrase apparently!
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The whole advert is shit.

Who the **** says "fancy a butchers" instead of "fancy a look"?

(yes i know look = hook = butchers meat hook = butchers)
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Who the **** says "fancy a butchers" instead of "fancy a look"?
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Quite a few people.
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Re: Over-tired!

Poll please.
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We don't need a poll, it's "oh they're tired" (of course) and we have had official confirmation.
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We don't need a poll, it's "oh they're tired" (of course) and we have had official confirmation.
a fake e-mail hardly counts as confirmation!
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a fake e-mail hardly counts as confirmation!
No, but I phoned the Pope last night and he said it was "oh, they're tired". Apparently he knows because God told him.
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Re: Over-tired!

who is this 'God', and what is his relationship with Vauxhall?

I think the debate is pretty well concluded anyway. It's 'Ohh, they're tired'. No doubt.
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you say that like 'ohh, they're tired' doesn't make sense.
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Re: Over-tired!

How is "oh, they're tired" upper class in any sense? It's not like they spontaneously started discussing the theoretical ramifications of deconstructing deconstructionism.
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It's not like they spontaneously started discussing the theoretical ramifications of deconstructing deconstructionism.
They would, they just found the child actors were even crapper at saying "deconstructing deconstructionism" in time with each other.

(besides, how would you know what the upper class discuss? to be upper class in ireland you just need more potatoes than everyone else)
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Re: Over-tired!

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They would, they just found the child actors were even crapper at saying "deconstructing deconstructionism" in time with each other.

(besides, how would you know what the upper class discuss? to be upper class in ireland you just need more potatoes than everyone else)
This from a man who thinks the upper class are the people walking around in the room above him in school?
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Re: Over-tired!

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How is "oh, they're tired" upper class in any sense?
It's not, he's talking bollocks.
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I would hope the upper classes have better things to talk about than that. That seems more like a wanky middle class intellectual thing to talk about. The person would probably go on to talk about endowment mortgages and pine furnishings or something.
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I would hope the upper classes have better things to talk about than that. That seems more like a wanky middle class intellectual thing to talk about. The person would probably go on to talk about endowment mortgages and pine furnishings or something.
I have been reliably informed that the current "in" topics of conversation amongst the upper classes are as follows:

* how tall people are
* how much gin they have consumed
* how internet forums are going downhill
* how tall people are
* how being upper class means you're never wrong about anything. ever.
* how tall people are
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