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Unread 3 Jan 2003, 17:15   #1
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MAVAV - Who fell for the Hoax?

As many of you probably know by now MAVAV, or the Mothers Against Videogame Addiction and Violence, has turned out to be one of the largest hoaxes of the year. The MAVAV incident which sparked a heated debate on many gaming forums, until the release of this report, tricked about 50,000 people, and led to front page articles on IGN, Slashdot, and Penny Arcade. So my question is, honestly, how many of you were brought in by the web page? I did notice some people in the Jolt Forums, and even someone in Planetarion Discussions sporting the defaced MAVAV Banners in their signatures, which were parodies off the banners posted in MAVAV's Awareness Page. If you just heard of this page now, take a quick look at it and tell me if you find it believable.

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Unread 3 Jan 2003, 17:23   #2
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Not me

looking up the ip did the trick.
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Unread 3 Jan 2003, 18:00   #3
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I never heard of them...
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heh.. heh.. heh..


never seen em before though :eek:
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Like Parracida said - the first thing to do with any 'controvertial' thing like that is to find out who they are:
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Tracing route to mavav.org [216.226.142.104] over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  dale.mshome.net [192.168.0.1]
  2     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  3   100 ms    86 ms    89 ms  not-dam1-a-fa00.inet.ntl.com [80.4.140.193]
  4    92 ms    79 ms    81 ms  not-t2core-a-pos411.inet.ntl.com [80.1.79.53]
  5     *       99 ms    83 ms  lee-bb-a-so-300-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.33]
  6   102 ms    94 ms    87 ms  pop-bb-b-so-100-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.238]
  7   105 ms   120 ms   111 ms  so-3-0-0.cr1.lhr3.uk.mfnx.net [208.185.188.41]
  8   102 ms     *        *     pos10-0.mpr1.lhr1.uk.mfnx.net [208.184.231.173]
  9   112 ms    93 ms    91 ms  ge-0-2-0.r01.londen02.uk.bb.verio.net [217.79.161.10]
 10   190 ms   177 ms   175 ms  p4-1-0-0.r80.nycmny01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.4.181]
 11   183 ms   160 ms   181 ms  p16-0-1-3.r20.nycmny01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.2.144]
 12   170 ms   155 ms   163 ms  p16-6-0-0.r04.nycmny01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.2.37]
 13   180 ms   173 ms   171 ms  p4-6-3-0.r01.clevoh01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.2.93]
 14   184 ms   169 ms   165 ms  p4-6-0.r00.clevoh01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.3.169]
 15   178 ms   171 ms   179 ms  p1-2-0-0.a02.clevoh02.us.ra.verio.net [129.250.16.42]
 16   199 ms   172 ms   178 ms  p1-2-0-0.a01.clmboh01.us.ra.verio.net [129.250.50.106]
 17   191 ms   175 ms   176 ms  p1-3-0-0.a01.clmboh01.us.ce.verio.net [131.103.136.2]
 18   181 ms   177 ms   174 ms  drakhath.net [216.226.142.104]

Trace complete.
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Unread 3 Jan 2003, 18:28   #6
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Unread 3 Jan 2003, 18:35   #7
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I dont undestand anything off this.
NOTHING.
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Unread 3 Jan 2003, 18:41   #8
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never heard of MAVAV :-/
although i havent been much online lately
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Unread 3 Jan 2003, 19:33   #9
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ive never heard of MAVAVAV or even a hoax MAVAV i dont know anything.


but can someone please explain to me how to do an IP type trace on a website, and how exactly what meglamaniac posted shows a hoax.

please note, i i couldnt tell an IP from an ISP.
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Unread 3 Jan 2003, 19:55   #10
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yes, but how do you trace it like megla did?
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Unread 3 Jan 2003, 20:16   #11
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If you read the report you would know that MAVAV was a project by a student in a Computer class. He used his friend's ISP, which happens to also be the a clan website for....alas a Video Game! Anyways, read the chart in the report. He received 1500 e-mails, and over 1000 telephone calls in the released this went public. All the time he said he was just a third party who was contracted to set up the site. My favorite part of the site is the Duke Nukem picture with the words "Not in my house, tough guy". Thats what sold it for me.
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yes, but how do you trace it like megla did?
In dos (ie. the command prompt in windows) type:
tracert <dns or ip>

eg.
tracert www.google.com
tracert 216.239.37.100

The trace implies it's not real because the trace leads to drakhath.net which is a clan website.

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I'd never even heard of it.
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