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18 Dec 2003, 12:19
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I am an idiot
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The perfect murder
I was wondering what ideas people had in order to carry out the perfect murder*? What methods could be used in order to avoid detection?
Its always interesting to hear what other think on this subject as it seems that no matter how hard you try there is always something that gets overlooked or can be traced back to the killer.
I personally think the easiest way to a perfect murder is to carry out strangulation on a random person in a secluded area wearing gloves, hat and glasses. Then give all your clothes to a charity shop in another area after going straight to a public swimming pool for a dip to remove any hair etc you may have on you.
* Perfect murder meaning one where you never get caught.
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18 Dec 2003, 12:21
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Registered User
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Re: The perfect murder
Slow-acting poison put into a random drinks bottle whilst you're on holiday somewhere
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18 Dec 2003, 12:28
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Clerk
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Re: The perfect murder
Killing someone who no-one cares about would seem to be best.
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18 Dec 2003, 12:30
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Re: The perfect murder
Well, like you say the best way to not get caught is to murder someone you don't know and have absolutely no connection to. The police always suspect people the victim knew. But then I don't see how you'd want to murder someone random.
Also disposing of the body in a way that it won't get found is good. That way the police are never sure if they're dealing with a murder or just someone who decided to dissapear. Bury them deep, and remove teeth, fingerprints and the skull.
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18 Dec 2003, 13:10
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Re: The perfect murder
There is not perfect murder, no matter how clever you think you are you will always overlook something that will lead to your capture, conviction and death (in some countries).
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18 Dec 2003, 13:15
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Mr. Blobby
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Re: The perfect murder
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Originally Posted by Belgarath The Sorcerer
There is not perfect murder, no matter how clever you think you are you will always overlook something that will lead to your capture, conviction and death (in some countries).
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Have they caught Jack the Ripper yet?
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18 Dec 2003, 13:29
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First Disciple of Aldur
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Re: The perfect murder
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Originally Posted by Leshy
Have they caught Jack the Ripper yet?
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I would have thought that we'd be taking into account modern technologies here. The crimewriter Patricia Cornwell wrote a book - about Jack the Ripper - in which she uses modern forensic techniques to investigate the murders, she comes to a pretty convincing conclusion as to just who Jack the Ripper was.
Your 99.9% certain to get caught.
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18 Dec 2003, 13:31
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Re: The perfect murder
Most leathal substances can be traced in the victims blood. You would have a hard time finding that kind of poison without it beeing traced back to you in some way. Beeing on holliday is not a really good alibi for not having killed someone with slow working poison in random bottles.
If you want to kill John Doe, it's not really that hard. The police won't put that much effort into finding out who did it. If you kill someone fairly important, or if it gets alot of public attention you would have to be inhumanly intelligent not to leave one single evidence behind.
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18 Dec 2003, 14:15
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Re: The perfect murder
its situation dependent innit. Theres no one 'best method' for killing people - youd have to tailor your plan to the individual target etc.
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18 Dec 2003, 14:30
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Re: The perfect murder
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Originally Posted by Belgarath The Sorcerer
Your 99.9% certain to get caught.
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I smell shite.
So you are saying that practically every murder that has been commited in recent times has been solved and the perp caught?
Somehow i don't think so.
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18 Dec 2003, 14:36
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Re: The perfect murder
If you killed someone completely unrelated to yourself in any shape or form, say a random sniper shot with a stolen rifle, then flew to a different country and hung yourself, I sincerely doubt they would ever pin it on you.
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18 Dec 2003, 14:37
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Next goal wins!
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Re: The perfect murder
killing random people would be fun
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18 Dec 2003, 14:38
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Re: The perfect murder
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Originally Posted by Ragnarak
Slow-acting poison put into a random drinks bottle whilst you're on holiday somewhere
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hey that was my idea too! but it was to kill a tramp
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18 Dec 2003, 14:38
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so f*cking zen
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Re: The perfect murder
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Originally Posted by Dead_Meat
If you killed someone completely unrelated to yourself in any shape or form, say a random sniper shot with a stolen rifle, then flew to a different country and hung yourself, I sincerely doubt they would ever pin it on you.
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18 Dec 2003, 15:32
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Re: The perfect murder
Fragging happens all the time on battlefields. Its where a bad officer gets shot by his own soldiers.
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18 Dec 2003, 15:39
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Re: The perfect murder
We're assuming Jessica Fletcher isn't investigating the murder right?
If she was, it's impossible to make the perfect murder.
SHE ALWAYS GETS HER MAN.
Saucy minx that she is.
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18 Dec 2003, 16:42
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Teh Portal Coder
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Re: The perfect murder
I just typed a long, long post detailing how to commit the perfect murder.
But then I realised it might look quite bad.
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18 Dec 2003, 16:46
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Clerk
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Re: The perfect murder
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Saucy minx that she is.
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You sick bastard.
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18 Dec 2003, 17:27
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Re: The perfect murder
Someone with no record could murder a few people before it would get dangerous, easily.
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18 Dec 2003, 18:51
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Re: The perfect murder
do you have to commit the murder yourself?
if not then hire someone to kill them for you - in some areas of the UK you can get this done for as little as £500, then just make sure that you are somewhere visible on the night, and act horrified when they find your victim shot through the head next morning
easy
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18 Dec 2003, 18:57
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Re: The perfect murder
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Originally Posted by Dace
I smell shite.
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Then shower more
anyway, as stated before not having any motive gives you quite an edge..but then again..why would you want to kill someone when it doesnt get you any advantages? (apart from the obvious fun of killing someone ofcourse )
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18 Dec 2003, 19:58
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Re: The perfect murder
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Originally Posted by Toccata & Fugue
Read Crime & Punishment by Dostoevsky for "worst perfect murder ever" award.
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The problem there was the original perception of society (with Raskolnikov being a 'super human' (if you will)) was flawed, and he wasn't prepared mentally for the realisation that he was in actuallity an evil little bugger.
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18 Dec 2003, 20:18
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Mathamagician
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Re: The perfect murder
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Originally Posted by CrashTester
I was wondering what ideas people had in order to carry out the perfect murder*? What methods could be used in order to avoid detection?
Its always interesting to hear what other think on this subject as it seems that no matter how hard you try there is always something that gets overlooked or can be traced back to the killer.
I personally think the easiest way to a perfect murder is to carry out strangulation on a random person in a secluded area wearing gloves, hat and glasses. Then give all your clothes to a charity shop in another area after going straight to a public swimming pool for a dip to remove any hair etc you may have on you.
* Perfect murder meaning one where you never get caught.
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*cough*murder by numbers*cough*
though i would poision them (a random person you've never met, probably of a different racial creed as you, murderers usually kill inside their own race) with standard available things like salt or bleach or something, in a place that you theoretically never were (eg go on a day trip and dont tell anyone) and then bugger off home whilst they die a painful death.
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18 Dec 2003, 20:36
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Teh Portal Coder
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Re: The perfect murder
Someone hit on the standard avaliable things one, bravo. I'd go for a long old bit of PVC, copper-cored electrical wire, myself. Nigh on impossible to break that bastard with your bare hands.
...****, I think I left the guide sitting on my work computer. Oh well.
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19 Dec 2003, 22:15
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cynic
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Re: The perfect murder
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Originally Posted by Toccata & Fugue
Rookie mistake, if you have an accomplice then they will sell you out faster then you can say "known hitman arrested in botched assasination attempt."
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nah, you get a pro in, if i hire someone from glasgow to come down for the day, do the deed and drive off again, there is no ****ing chance of his getting caught, i am not talking about some tosser who thinks he is hard getting a shotgun and then shooting them in front of their house where all the world can see, i am talking discreet
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20 Dec 2003, 00:45
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Teh Portal Coder
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Re: The perfect murder
That happened to a friend of mine.
Knock on the door. He answers. Two guys, balaclavas, shotgun to the forehead. Survived. Absolutely no detrimental affects, even though he's missing a fair chunk of his head.
Mistaken identity. Some IRA related thing. They had the wrong address, didn't bother to ask questions first.
Amusing part? Random guy that looks exactly the same as person who got shottied came off his motorbike a week later. Survived. Gone absolutely ****ing mad. Missing a fair chunk of his head.
See one of them walking down the street. And you never know which one's the right one.
Until he starts talking about your mother, and the nuns.
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20 Dec 2003, 01:03
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cynic
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Re: The perfect murder
see, its ****ing easy if you know the right kind of ppl
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