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Unread 7 Nov 2002, 16:50   #1
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Xandathrii fleetage

has any1 here actually built a ship larger than a corvette ?
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Unread 7 Nov 2002, 17:24   #2
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I'm sure someone has.

But the better question is: why?
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Unread 7 Nov 2002, 17:44   #3
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well i havnt YET, but will for sure!!!

namely the dreaghtnaught.

This ships ABSOLUTELY sux at first sight:

-crappy armor for battleships
-cant effectively hit co. lets not even talk about fi. (the weaponspeed is crappy)
-Will give u 1 more class for u'r enemies to shoot at.

BUT... if u would think a little further this ship is absolutely a MUST HAVE for the medium-big sized xans:

As a medium/big xan u have 2 REAL enemies:

-cathaar with lots of spiders+beetles (yes scorpions are dangerous 2 but alot easier to get defence for due to the eta 9)
-Other xans wich give u messy battlereports and are hard to defend against (smart xans will sent eta 7 fi/co fleet to kill+roid u)

Cathaar has NO effective BS stunner, only some random shooting ships but since u got waaaaaaaaaaaaaay more fi/co then u will have BS they wont really get targeted.. and 90% emp-res is nice protection.

Xans are even more screwed up! they can use : broadsword, fireblade and peacekeeper for your BS. These ships are all pretty effective against your poorly armored BS, BUT as soon as your attacker sents them, they leave themselves open to 2 threaths: pulsars and bombers wich would normally eat out of their noses vs. a fi/co fleet but now have a nice killing spree making your roids VERY expansive.
Well.. offcourse one could use sentinils but since they relie on random fire your attackers should kill ALL your fi/co BEFORE the sentinils shoot (so that would require TONS of vsharks...).

Your BS will thus keep alive/unemped vs these 2 enemies and start killing their precious co/fi (they arnt very effective but its kill that they CANT avoid and will make their roids costy as hell)

Vs terran and Zirkonian they are SOMETIMES handy, but most normal ter/zirk players dont have so many fi/co that your vsharks+culdassa's cant handle them and u might wanna consider to sent them away to make a galm8 under attack happy

Besides deffing yourself its also handy to have as ingal defence, cos these babies will always be appriciated by a fellow cathaar or zirkonian to defend them with!

Offcourse this ship will NEVER leave your galaxy (in some cases not even your planet) so u dont wanna overdo it at building them
Roiding with them would lead to instand transport to the mental hospital!


Small xans will have NO benefit for these ships though: their army will be so small that both cathaar and xan. will succeed in their random fire to kill your BS before it gets 2 shoot and it might even lure bs-hungry zirkonians to your planet
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Unread 7 Nov 2002, 17:59   #4
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I think, if you look, you will see quite a few Peacekeepers out there
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Unread 7 Nov 2002, 19:49   #5
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I've forcibly explained to several people this round that Xan DE/CR are not good things to have

I did build 51 TBTs by mistake (meant to build bombers) but theyr'e almost all dead now.
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Unread 7 Nov 2002, 20:26   #6
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yup.... xan. de/cr. are not worth looking at.

they just ensure a higher cap ratio for u'r attacker ;-)

BS are worth building though see earlier post
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Unread 7 Nov 2002, 20:57   #7
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Well I am the "Proud" owner of 4 fireblades, not been killed (yet!)
but they were an accident....
wont build anynore or Cr... dunno about Bs, aint decided yet..
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Unread 7 Nov 2002, 21:30   #8
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I have FR class (mostly the Broadsword) and gonna build some BS.
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Unread 7 Nov 2002, 23:22   #9
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heh, i have Frigates (Broadswords Only) but other than that FI/CO all the way.
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Unread 8 Nov 2002, 03:30   #10
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I have 3 frigs and 3 battleships, purely for use when joint attacking with people who are eta 8 or eta 9 :-)
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Unread 8 Nov 2002, 07:10   #11
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I have 3 frigs and 3 battleships, purely for use when joint attacking with people who are eta 8 or eta 9 :-)
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Unread 8 Nov 2002, 11:43   #12
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would dreadnoughts work against other xans and cath tho?
that point i do take
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Unread 8 Nov 2002, 21:53   #13
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ive got exactley 11 broadswoirds, to slow my eta down a bit...

reasons are the same as other posters posted above me
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Unread 9 Nov 2002, 10:59   #14
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would dreadnoughts work against other xans and cath tho?
that point i do take
If the Xans don't have broadswoards...which are unlikely to use i n an attack then the BS are useful at home against Xan I'd say.
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Unread 9 Nov 2002, 11:49   #15
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for CAth then?
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Unread 9 Nov 2002, 12:00   #16
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These no point in having a BS freeze targeting ship cause all bs ships have great resistence against emp.
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I have 3 frigs and 3 battleships, purely for use when joint attacking with people who are eta 8 or eta 9 :-)
I have 1 pillager for the same purpose.
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Unread 9 Nov 2002, 19:10   #18
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i have 500 braodswords and they are yet to leave my planet

the reason i have them is to put ppl off attacking meh with mantis' and to effectivly kill bs's

it is after all the only class not covered 'cept for random fire

and i only have 22k sents

im gonna bump the boradswords up to 1000 soon

if i wanna make meh ships eta 8 then i add a astro pod of which i have 100 <--- and i have 100 cause i like to have round 100's and 1000's of everyship
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I know someone with a score less than 1mil and 156 peacekeepers! I wouldnt dare attack him with what i have.......... *cough*
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I know someone with a score less than 1mil and 156 peacekeepers! I wouldnt dare attack him with what i have.......... *cough*

he's got what? 150 HMS Hoods?

really scary :/.
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i have more xand fr than most xands, and im zik
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are htey good flak with ur maruaders? =p
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Unread 11 Nov 2002, 12:43   #24
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TBT would be better Fr defence for a zikko, Lancer is the same as clipper so u dont need that one, broadsword is nice against Cr especially if u dont want to build sabres.
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Unread 13 Nov 2002, 20:43   #25
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Smile I dissagree that xanddathri suck

i think it's an extremely fair trade armour for fire power i had forty of each type of ship but 120 of the original fighters and i destroyed a terran fleet of twice the size
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well not with the xan fleet i assume.
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persoanlli i would lyke to prefer to say Xa s build onli figthers and co's
makes them seem more in character with fighter swarms
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