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Treveler · 24 Jun 2004, 01:24

http://pirate.planetarion.com/showth...ght=theprophet

Desperate times calls for desperate means I guess! O_o

xtothez · 24 Jun 2004, 01:26

Their members are actually under strict orders not to reply to threads on this subject.

Which is a pity because this is exactly the sort of subject that makes fang look like hypocritical retards.

Zh|l · 24 Jun 2004, 01:31

What? He is FAnG?

Why am I always last to know.

I am Idler · 24 Jun 2004, 01:31

super, the biggest ass alive joined a alliance.

winner

Mav · 24 Jun 2004, 01:34

I can't beleive FAnG took him in tbh. :- /

JonnyBGood · 24 Jun 2004, 01:36

Usually I'd close threads like this but I'm actually just astounded.

Hicks · 24 Jun 2004, 01:37

Wonder who vouched him ? TouRiQueT perhaps :-/

virogenesis · 24 Jun 2004, 01:41

If i heard correctly didn't he have to approach jolt asking them if he could play or not might be wrong but considering how fang are meant to be a friendly community i just don't see how they could allow someone like him in as he created chaos last round intecting computers for a laugh.
Well looks like alot will doubt the strict FAnG no cheating policy due to this.

I am Idler · 24 Jun 2004, 01:50

#fang unable to join channel (address is banned)

I'm being banned for asking Fang to present the evidence of TehProphet being innocent.

how convenient

xtothez · 24 Jun 2004, 01:54

Uberfish is an IRC Operator
Zippy is an IRC Operator

[01:50:43] <XtoTheZ> "TehPropheT: was cleared, by netgamers, of the allegations made against him"
[01:50:48] <XtoTheZ> just looking to verify that
[01:51:01] <+Zippy> who says that?
[01:51:10] <XtoTheZ> the people who just recruited him to their alliance
[01:51:41] <+Zippy> he hasnt been as far as i am aware
[01:51:54] <+Uberfish> I must admit I haven't heard that either

Phil^ · 24 Jun 2004, 01:56

as i told heartless, fang taking him in was either extremely brave, or extremely stupid - time will tell

I am Idler · 24 Jun 2004, 01:56

so basically TehProphet told fang he was cleared of all allegations to fang hc's, and they bought it ?

this is starting to look like some horrible sitcom

Achilles · 24 Jun 2004, 02:41

I think this is the part where TehProphet turns out to be married to Touriquet even though (s)he is still married to KJ, who was thought lost in a tragic boating accident.

I saw it last week on Soaps Plus.

Helix · 24 Jun 2004, 06:44

lets have the entire universe block together in an anti-TehPropheT block, I am sure exceptions to Sid's "No Blocking Proposal" can be made to take down TehPropheT and anyone who is stupid enough to stand by him.

P.S.

There are rumors of TehPropheT's innocence...lets see some evidence so that we can all stop flaming him and FAnG then.

Nitros · 24 Jun 2004, 07:09

he's using a fakenick and tried to apply for LCH with it...he probably did the same with FAnG o_O

KinGSmity · 24 Jun 2004, 11:06

Unexceptable. Tis all i gotta say.

cypher · 24 Jun 2004, 11:25

he's in fang under his normal nick.

and tbh i doubt anyone is actually surprised fang took him in....
they always have and always will let people like him in.

Forest · 24 Jun 2004, 13:20

I approached fang reqiesting they wouldnt accept him, when i knew he was looking for an alliance.

Fang told me they wouldnt accept him for other reasons as well as mine.

Two days later they accepted him. Official reason quoted was 'to piss on me'.
And I was in #fang topic for 'trying to influence Fang gameplay' - I can only assume that means trying to convinve them not to accept cheaters.

Im sure he will be right at home.

I am Idler · 24 Jun 2004, 13:49

I dont understand tho.. the FAnG I was part of in round8 was a nice bunch of people.

what happened?

cypher · 24 Jun 2004, 14:17

you were member in a different fang in a different world in a different universe, etc.

ever seen sliders btw?

Forest · 24 Jun 2004, 16:38

So, how does it work?

I mean, when fang get a few planets closed, will they complain they are again 'hacked'.

xtothez · 24 Jun 2004, 16:44

[16:36:43] <XtoTheZ> "TehPropheT: was cleared, by netgamers, of the allegations made against him"
[16:36:48] <XtoTheZ> just looking to verify that from CSC staff
[16:36:57] <mist|ZzZz> this sounds distinctly familar
[16:37:10] <XtoTheZ> yesterday I asked some opers
[16:37:20] <XtoTheZ> after a CSC quote now
[16:37:26] -P- mist|[email protected] is a CSC Director and an IRC operator and logged in as mist
[16:38:17] <mist|ZzZz> in that case, i'll go with the "what they said" option

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[16:39:42] -P- Phil^[email protected] is a Planetarion Team Member and logged in as Phil^
[16:40:35] <Phil^> lo
[16:40:43] <XtoTheZ> "TehPropheT: was cleared, by netgamers, of the allegations made against him"
[16:40:48] <XtoTheZ> just looking to verify that from PA staff
[16:40:54] <XtoTheZ> I have CSC / NG staff quotes
[16:40:59] <Phil^> he wasnt by netgamers, ive spoken to zippy and hes relayewd me that convo you had wit them
[16:41:03] <Phil^> and pa staff certainly didnt
[16:41:16] <Phil^> we just couldnt close him for it because he didnt do it in game
[16:41:21] <Phil^> he did it on irc which was ng's domain

Leshy · 24 Jun 2004, 16:50

Come on. Can anyone say they are genuinely surprised?

Phil^ · 24 Jun 2004, 17:05

coulda at least corrected my typos for me

Legator · 24 Jun 2004, 18:07

hey, its fang people !

i wonder why people are still surprised by them.....

KillGhost · 24 Jun 2004, 20:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hicks

Wonder who vouched him ? TouRiQueT perhaps :-/

probably

Darky · 24 Jun 2004, 21:48

i´m actually more suprised that he´s still allowed on netgamers and even can use a registered nick

Synthetic_Sid · 25 Jun 2004, 00:27

There's a certain amount of hypocrisy in this thread. I have no love for TP myself - and wouldn't have touched him with a barge-pole had he applied for 1up. But to brand an entire alliance cheaters because they took in one member who has cheated in the past is excessive: I can say with certainty that there are members in 1up who have cheated in the past - and I wouldn't want our alliance judged as a whole on that basis. The only time I'd personally judge an alliance based on one person's activity is if that individual had cheated in the current round, the alliance HC knew about it, yet still currently defended that individual.

None of which is to say I believe that his galaxy landed together just by luck.

Kjeldoran · 25 Jun 2004, 00:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Synthetic_Sid

There's a certain amount of hypocrisy in this thread. I have no love for TP myself - and wouldn't have touched him with a barge-pole had he applied for 1up. But to brand an entire alliance cheaters because they took in one member who has cheated in the past is excessive: I can say with certainty that there are members in 1up who have cheated in the past - and I wouldn't want our alliance judged as a whole on that basis. The only time I'd personally judge an alliance based on one person's activity is if that individual had cheated in the current round, the alliance HC knew about it, yet still currently defended that individual.

None of which is to say I believe that his galaxy landed together just by luck.

thankyou

Treveler · 25 Jun 2004, 00:35

What he has done goes a bit further then just normal cheating and farming...

Stifler · 25 Jun 2004, 01:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Treveler

What he has done goes a bit further then just normal cheating and farming...

pathogen · 25 Jun 2004, 02:35

lol

Helix · 25 Jun 2004, 02:40

and well...tbh he has cheated this round already. PATeam said it was cheating to create more than one account, they made an announcement about it on the motd. Yet their galaxy has managed to conveniently "land together" as sid put it. I think there are no doubts that there was cheating involved in that, and yet FAnG does nothing still.

Hicks · 25 Jun 2004, 03:44

THis thread would be 90% more fun if FAnG were allowed to post.

Boogster · 25 Jun 2004, 04:00

I don't understand any of it.

Mav · 25 Jun 2004, 04:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boogster

I don't understand any of it.

Read it fully from the top, then you might, heh.

Helix · 25 Jun 2004, 05:45

I think FAnG should be allowed to post...what are they running over there? some sort of communistict dictatorship?!!? FREE SPEECH FOR ALL, LET THE FANGeR's TALK!!

Leshy · 25 Jun 2004, 08:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Synthetic_Sid

But to brand an entire alliance cheaters because they took in one member who has cheated in the past is excessive

Lucky for FAnG then that it was just this one-time occasion.

Oh wait.

Legator · 25 Jun 2004, 08:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leshy

Lucky for FAnG then that it was just this one-time occasion.

Oh wait.

Forest · 25 Jun 2004, 08:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Synthetic_Sid

But to brand an entire alliance cheaters because they took in one member who has cheated in the past is excessive: I can say with certainty that there are members in 1up who have cheated in the past - and I wouldn't want our alliance judged as a whole on that basis. The only time I'd personally judge an alliance based on one person's activity is if that individual had cheated in the current round, the alliance HC knew about it, yet still currently defended that individual.

None of which is to say I believe that his galaxy landed together just by luck.

Forgetting the fact that this person hacked an passed out worms or whatever to get passwords, this is a person who actively and openly abused a FANG OFFICER in order to make him quit a game, who even had freinds pm said fanger, in order to avoid /ignore, and who openly abused in public channels, forcing said fanger to leave public channels.

That, for me, is unforgettable, and even happend THIS round after ticks started.

Thats why I was happy when Fang HC told me they would never recruit him, for other reasons as well, then recruited him two days later.

This means they condone waht he did, and makes those who protect him every bit as bad as him, and it makes it a sad day for pa, when players like this get pretty much an automatic route into a top alliance.

Vaio · 25 Jun 2004, 09:52

Forest, why are you surprised ?

~Vaio~

cypher · 25 Jun 2004, 10:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hicks

Wonder who vouched him ? TouRiQueT perhaps :-/

people like sick death would be my guess

his sorta guy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Synthetic_Sid

There's a certain amount of hypocrisy in this thread. I have no love for TP myself - and wouldn't have touched him with a barge-pole had he applied for 1up. But to brand an entire alliance cheaters because they took in one member who has cheated in the past is excessive: I can say with certainty that there are members in 1up who have cheated in the past - and I wouldn't want our alliance judged as a whole on that basis. The only time I'd personally judge an alliance based on one person's activity is if that individual had cheated in the current round, the alliance HC knew about it, yet still currently defended that individual.

None of which is to say I believe that his galaxy landed together just by luck.

read the other thread? i doubt theprophet is really getting trashed for simple cheating...
the things he done go WAY beyond cheating.

Razorback · 25 Jun 2004, 11:39

maybe he is good for the community ?
i heared Osama B. also needs an alliance

Colt · 25 Jun 2004, 12:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by I am Idler

I dont understand tho.. the FAnG I was part of in round8 was a nice bunch of people.

We still are...

virogenesis · 25 Jun 2004, 13:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colt

We still are...

But yet you promote the use of hacking?
how can you be a nice bunch of people when you take in someone like tehprophet.
A rotten apple like him can make a bunch of fresh apples look awful no doubt you will suffer because of him as many will be gunning for him I imagine which will just soak up defense.

virogenesis · 25 Jun 2004, 13:38

FAnG allows script kiddies who damage the game....now
how can you be a nice bunch of people when you take in someone like tehprophet.
A rotten apple like him can make a bunch of fresh apples look awful no doubt you will suffer because of him as many will be gunning for him I imagine which will just soak up defense.

Nadar · 25 Jun 2004, 14:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by virogenesis

But yet you promote the use of hacking?
how can you be a nice bunch of people when you take in someone like tehprophet.

It's funny to see how some people still put everyone in the same bag just because of one person

You have some of those 'rotten' apples yourself, but still I don't see anyone putting all 1up'ers in one bag in such a large scale you do with FAnG. Funny eh?

Treveler · 25 Jun 2004, 14:42

One person who has knowingly and intentionally infected 60 computers with the intention of taking over their account/destroy their round. This is what FAnG has recruited.

And when FAnG recruits such a person, when they know what he stands for, it does reflect upon every FAnG member and especially the FAnG HC. You are defending a known hacker and it’s not funny at all.

virogenesis · 25 Jun 2004, 14:52

ekkk yes i know i was being naive by posting that was meant to change the bloody thing but quoted it instead/
Yes we have rotten apples but have any of ours been done for computer related crimes?
ok he might not have been arrested but still......
Hes guilty we all know it what makes it more funny is that forest reported him last round...
.the fact of the matter is that have any 1up members been known to go into rooms spreading trojans? tehprophet has been & hes FAnG now
I can not say we are completely clean but alot of the KNOWN cheaters who applied got anti vouched for cheating by members & command staff so comparing the two alliances would just be wrong as 1up have morals & FAnG just claim too.
How can any FAnG say they are proud to be FAnG when you hear you officers & hcs claim to hate cheaters but yet we have seen touri..... cheat...
I heard FAnG members say that all last round & he ended up with korenchkin in 9.5 & had other accounts in kores gal, Irvine got deleted for having multi accounts which he used to send def to other FAnG members & tehprophet used trojans to gain access to computers which had passwords stored on them, credit card numbers.... & what have you.
So you still gonna compare 1UP or FAnG?

[i2k]Xy · 25 Jun 2004, 14:59

I second that.. It can't be compared with acc sharing for instance .. coza is just cute! :[