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21 Jun 2004, 15:53
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Jedi Mastah
Join Date: Jul 2001
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1up on top!!
So, is this the time for everyone to start the block to take 'em down?
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21 Jun 2004, 15:55
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2004
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Re: 1up on top!!
The time to start a block was long ago but its better late than never!
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21 Jun 2004, 15:59
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DarnocYzarc
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Norway
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Re: 1up on top!!
Get a life ffs :/
WAY FOR 1up!!!! They are so much more 1337 on initiating roids...
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21 Jun 2004, 16:07
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Former [1up] Hustler
Join Date: Apr 2002
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Re: 1up on top!!
I'm actually personally flattered
/me claps the rally to take 1up down - oooh and it came b4 the end of protection - pld!
Go u propaganda queens!!!11oneoneoneeleven
Here's some advice from a PA-vet - STFU and play the fcuk'ing game you morons
Blocking has essentially killed PA from what it was. 200k people playing an online game to the hardcore that remains to this day or have made a return.
And u fcuk'n morons want to block against an alliance that has the same in-game limitations that your alliances do? LOL
For all the respected players and HC from alliances that know me and know my attitude towards the community - whether this post was anti-1up, anti-FAnG or anti-MISTU - my opinion on this would be the same.
Blocking has killed PA and a lot of us are trying our damndest to get it back up there. Give it a fcuk'n rest and grow the fcuk up - you're pathetic and I'm annoyed at myself for even letting u pricks get a rise out of me!
*** Apologies to those that are offended by my colourful language ***
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21 Jun 2004, 16:15
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Canadian to the Core
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Canada
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Re: 1up on top!!
Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Fish
you really took some bait there Dinobot
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He may have taken the bait, but he at least made good points while he was at it.
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21 Jun 2004, 16:17
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Angels for life !
Join Date: Jul 2001
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Re: 1up on top!!
Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Fish
you really took some bait there Dinobot
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atleast he's not the moron throwing the bait I guess that's what pple from pathetic alliances have to do to draw some atention ...
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21 Jun 2004, 16:17
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Foolish newbie
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Blocking the light at the end of your tunnel.
Posts: 39
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Re: 1up on top!!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dinobot
I'm actually personally flattered
Here's some advice from a PA-vet - STFU and play the fcuk'ing game you morons
Blocking has essentially killed PA from what it was. 200k people playing an online game to the hardcore that remains to this day or have made a return.
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Just because LDK and Killmark produced boatloads of accounts doesnt mean there were actually tens of thousands of 'housemates, sisters, brothers-in-law, friends-of-friends, colleagues, milkmans and other people just coincidentally playing from the same IP' who all had their own unique, played-by-only-a-single-player account
Also, the change from entirely free game to P2P is what really killed off the masses. But that was an inevitable change, since ads could no longer bring in enough revenue to keep the servers running.
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21 Jun 2004, 16:48
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Jedi Mastah
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Ålesund, Norway
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Re: 1up on top!!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dinobot
I'm actually personally flattered
/me claps the rally to take 1up down - oooh and it came b4 the end of protection - pld!
Go u propaganda queens!!!11oneoneoneeleven
Here's some advice from a PA-vet - STFU and play the fcuk'ing game you morons
Blocking has essentially killed PA from what it was. 200k people playing an online game to the hardcore that remains to this day or have made a return.
And u fcuk'n morons want to block against an alliance that has the same in-game limitations that your alliances do? LOL
For all the respected players and HC from alliances that know me and know my attitude towards the community - whether this post was anti-1up, anti-FAnG or anti-MISTU - my opinion on this would be the same.
Blocking has killed PA and a lot of us are trying our damndest to get it back up there. Give it a fcuk'n rest and grow the fcuk up - you're pathetic and I'm annoyed at myself for even letting u pricks get a rise out of me!
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I totally agree with you, tho you can't deny the fact that it actually is fun (in some perverted ways) to make these obvious 'bait' threads just to see how many people actually make something out of it
/me tickles Dinobots neurons
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21 Jun 2004, 16:51
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Jedi Mastah
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Ålesund, Norway
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Re: 1up on top!!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kjeldoran
atleast he's not the moron throwing the bait I guess that's what pple from pathetic alliances have to do to draw some atention ...
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does this mean you're kickin me for being a moron?
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21 Jun 2004, 18:53
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Inquisitor
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: England
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Re: 1up on top!!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Crazeh
does this mean you're kickin me for being a moron?
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If you're FAnG then why did Kjel call his own alliance pathetic :|
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21 Jun 2004, 19:00
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Retired
Join Date: Dec 2003
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Re: 1up on top!!
OMFG villeh > *
go villeh - tho you should consider deleting this thread. its a boring thread.
i guess you are bored or something.
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21 Jun 2004, 19:00
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Lost the Fury... :(
Join Date: Jun 2000
Posts: 516
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Re: 1up on top!!
but we just finished forming the 20 alliance block to take down VSN
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21 Jun 2004, 19:02
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Retired
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 702
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Re: 1up on top!!
Tis - you should get more allies if you want to take them down. 20 is not enough!
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21 Jun 2004, 19:05
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NewDawn pe0n
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: #NewDawn
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Re: 1up on top!!
Kjel must've misread
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21 Jun 2004, 22:51
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Angels for life !
Join Date: Jul 2001
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Re: 1up on top!!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zh|l
If you're FAnG then why did Kjel call his own alliance pathetic :|
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I was talking about The Fish and ND as the pathetic alliance, thankyou
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22 Jun 2004, 01:08
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Band of Brothers
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: England
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Re: 1up on top!!
Im highly dissapointed to see a thread like this, Dinobot is right when he says blocking
has ruined this game, if you want to win this game, keep your honor and just play your
hearts out.
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22 Jun 2004, 01:26
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PA Team
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 7,449
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Re: 1up on top!!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eskimo
Also, the change from entirely free game to P2P is what really killed off the masses. But that was an inevitable change, since ads could no longer bring in enough revenue to keep the servers running.
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22 Jun 2004, 01:32
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Join Date: Mar 2004
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Re: 1up on top!!
wasn't the "small amount" like 200k grand Euros(or was it $?)?:|
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22 Jun 2004, 01:34
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PA Team
Join Date: Oct 2003
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Re: 1up on top!!
it was euros or £, iirc. I can't quite remember though. it wasn't a small number, though.
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22 Jun 2004, 02:22
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2000
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Re: 1up on top!!
1UP FARMS!!! - sorry could not help it
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22 Jun 2004, 02:35
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Retired
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Rogaland, Norway
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Re: 1up on top!!
Busted :/
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22 Jun 2004, 05:51
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Canadian to the Core
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Canada
Posts: 1,004
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Re: 1up on top!!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Axis_WLF
1UP FARMS!!! - sorry could not help it
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You still should be playing for us!
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22 Jun 2004, 13:34
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: UK
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Re: 1up on top!!
Someone decides to troll andDinobot goes off on one sucking up the trollyness and making himself look stupid
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22 Jun 2004, 14:27
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I dunno...
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: manchester
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Re: 1up on top!!
There's tension already.
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22 Jun 2004, 15:38
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old spy
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: norway,oslo
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Re: 1up on top!!
lol
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22 Jun 2004, 17:14
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Autonomous
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: England
Posts: 125
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Re: 1up on top!!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dinobot
I'm actually personally flattered
Here's some advice from a PA-vet - STFU and play the fcuk'ing game you morons
Blocking has essentially killed PA from what it was. 200k people playing an online game to the hardcore that remains to this day or have made a return.
Blocking has killed PA and a lot of us are trying our damndest to get it back up there. Give it a fcuk'n rest and grow the fcuk up - you're pathetic and I'm annoyed at myself for even letting u pricks get a rise out of me!
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I feel obliged to give you a history lesson. The first competent (concordium doesnt count mm'kay?) block in planetarion, and the one that lead the way for most of the old PAs life, was the one lead by some of the people in 1up.
Having said that - the whole propaganda and having to be justified in blocking against them is weak. Just say - We dont like you, we think your better than us, so we are gonna keep fking you over until we decide otherwise.
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22 Jun 2004, 19:30
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Poblacht na hÉireann
Join Date: Apr 2004
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Re: 1up on top!!
Let's recap a minute. The post opened with this thread.
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Originally Posted by Crazeh
So, is this the time for everyone to start the block to take 'em down?
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To be clear, Crazeh = Villeh and Villeh is FAnG.
Dinobot responded to this obvious troll and put him in his place. The_Fish then wrote:
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Originally Posted by The_Fish
you really took some bait there Dinobot
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Obviously this was a reaction to the "colourful" language Dino used in his putdown. Now here is where it get's interesting. KJ (heretofore refered to as DribblingFool) responded to Fish's post with:
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Originally Posted by DribblingFool
atleast he's not the moron throwing the bait I guess that's what pple from pathetic alliances have to do to draw some atention ...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DribblingFool
I was talking about The Fish and ND as the pathetic alliance, thankyou
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Please continue your embarrassment, and our entertainment, with a bit more thoughtlessly idiotic trolling DF. It passes the lonely hours.
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wasted
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Under the floorboards
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Re: 1up on top!!
Am I the only one who saw the original post as a joke?
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22 Jun 2004, 20:14
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Join Date: May 2002
Location: Kassel, Germany
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Re: 1up on top!!
Heh. I'm still amused and surprised by the amount of bullshit replies I got for congratulating 1up those few days back when they were rising in the rankings when all I meant was exactly that: good job. (I wasn't aware they were recruiting btw, thank you.)
Seriously, before that thread and this one here, I thought I could hold some respect for people in 1up, but my impression changed over those 2 threads (not that you cared, I know) and I hope you burn in hell etc. Kthxbye.
Oh end Kjel, at least ND doesn't have FAnG's record of cheats. Throwing stones in glass houses etc.
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22 Jun 2004, 20:16
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Carebear
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Kassel, Germany
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Re: 1up on top!!
Quote:
Originally Posted by ComradeRob
Am I the only one who saw the original post as a joke?
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No you were not. Too many peope with a high latency for cancer around on these boards...
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22 Jun 2004, 20:40
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Poblacht na hÉireann
Join Date: Apr 2004
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Re: 1up on top!!
Quote:
Originally Posted by ComradeRob
Am I the only one who saw the original post as a joke?
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I think Villeh himself admitted it was a troll, albeit one in good humour. I only joined the thread to object to DF's mindless drivel.
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22 Jun 2004, 20:54
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Evil has returned
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: eta 4 from you
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Re: 1up on top!!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bu||seye
Heh. I'm still amused and surprised by the amount of bullshit replies I got for congratulating 1up those few days back when they were rising in the rankings when all I meant was exactly that: good job. (I wasn't aware they were recruiting btw, thank you.)
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congratulating us on initiating roids?
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Quote:
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22 Jun 2004, 21:03
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Join Date: Mar 2004
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Re: 1up on top!!
MISTU deserve some congratulations for init'ing roids too, theyve been doing it very well, and for a bit longer than others. How come they don't get a thread for their impressive avg roid count?
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22 Jun 2004, 23:28
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Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Amazingstoke
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Re: 1up on top!!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kjeldoran
I was talking about The Fish and ND as the pathetic alliance, thankyou
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Kj, you made my night.
Thank you.
useless wanker. \o/
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23 Jun 2004, 00:21
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Angels for life !
Join Date: Jul 2001
Posts: 4,269
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Re: 1up on top!!
Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Fish
Kj, you made my night.
Thank you.
useless wanker. \o/
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heh, I am indeed a useless wanker. Rather that then a usefull "good" wanker (think about that if you don't get it at first).
Btw, you sure you found enough allies to fight the big bad FAnG, or ...
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23 Jun 2004, 00:33
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ND
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Amazingstoke
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Re: 1up on top!!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kjeldoran
heh, I am indeed a useless wanker. Rather that then a usefull "good" wanker (think about that if you don't get it at first).
Btw, you sure you found enough allies to fight the big bad FAnG, or ...
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the.
****.
are.
you.
talking.
about?
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23 Jun 2004, 00:52
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Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: ONE LOVE
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Re: 1up on top!!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kjeldoran
heh, I am indeed a useless wanker. Rather that then a usefull "good" wanker (think about that if you don't get it at first).
Btw, you sure you found enough allies to fight the big bad FAnG, or ...
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seriously, you're like an ostrich on dopamine.
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23 Jun 2004, 01:51
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Poblacht na hÉireann
Join Date: Apr 2004
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Re: 1up on top!!
KJ - seriously. Some advice.
Step 1.) Get up, go outside (You can do this is 2 seperate steps if necessary)
Step 2.) Play with the traffic.
It's for the best.
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23 Jun 2004, 01:57
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Mr. Blobby
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Belgium
Posts: 8,271
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Re: 1up on top!!
Quote:
Originally Posted by AzureWrath
congratulating us on initiating roids?
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Honestly, we didn't expect you'd manage it, but you've exceeded our expectations
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23 Jun 2004, 02:47
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Black Power MotherF*ckas!
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: JAPAN
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Re: 1up on top!!
ummmmm, no.
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23 Jun 2004, 03:49
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Pathogen
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 26
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Re: 1up on top!!
Boring!!
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23 Jun 2004, 08:44
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th0ng gimp
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: somewhere in th0ngland
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Re: 1up on top!!
kj in up his own arse shocker.
Can someone put the top 5 alliances here as I havent signed up
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Lord of the Boards
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: #furious-angels
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Re: 1up on top!!
Rank Change Name Asteroids Members AVG Score Score
1 1up 22958 93 105.712 9.831.230
2 [VsN] 21524 99 95.315 9.436.278
3 ROCK 21609 100 93.589 9.358.989
4 FAnG 21800 90 101.135 9.102.237
5 MISTU 19920 78 102.440 7.990.340
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23 Jun 2004, 11:18
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ND
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Amazingstoke
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Re: 1up on top!!
Oi, Kj, prick, I'm still waiting for a response.
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23 Jun 2004, 11:46
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Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 50
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Re: 1up on top!!
Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Fish
Oi, Kj, prick, I'm still waiting for a response.
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Mercenary
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Todmorden
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Re: 1up on top!!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dinobot
And u fcuk'n morons want to block against an alliance that has the same in-game limitations that your alliances do? LOL
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just wanted to say, this is exactly what Sid proposed, and what 1up would do if it go to a situation where one alliance was winning clearly, albeit, its only just out of protection and so its not like ne1 is out in front by far
So you could whine and moan at others who might want to do it, whether or not this thread is serious, but you are being hypocritical in your sentence there, as you wouldnt complain if your ally formed a "short-term" block to kill the #1...
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23 Jun 2004, 13:51
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Its time to roll the dice
Join Date: May 2002
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Re: 1up on top!!
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Originally Posted by Colt
just wanted to say, this is exactly what Sid proposed
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This is was Sid proposed:
"At the same time it is also my belief that the overwhelming majority of Planetarion players and alliances do not want every round to be a two-sided war that is over in a few weeks followed by stagnation. What I propose is that all alliances who DON'T want a round where the two sides are drawn up before the round starts make an agreement: namely that should anyone attempt to form a block then everyone else will immediately form a much bigger block - with the sole intention of smashing the other block then immediately disbanding. One of the main motivations behind making blocks is fear: the fear that if you don't block, you'll lose to someone who does form a block. Make it apparent that if you DO block you'll lose - and that particular motivation to block ceases to be a factor."
So unless 1up has joined forces with another alliance, you are far off my friend. To block up against whoever is on top is just plain stupid. But if an alliance wants to win, and cant outroid whoever is at top, it should of course aim its fire at whoever is #1, but do so without any agreement with another alliance.
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Last edited by Treveler; 23 Jun 2004 at 14:17.
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23 Jun 2004, 14:19
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Re: 1up on top!!
ok, my bad, i misread
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23 Jun 2004, 14:44
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Re: 1up on top!!
Chances are that some alliances will start concentrating their firepower on the top alliance soon-ish, without the need to block or reach an agreement of any kind. 1up's strength, beside having good players, is their abililty to hide their coords from the other alliances.
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23 Jun 2004, 14:48
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Re: 1up on top!!
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Originally Posted by Treveler
So unless 1up has joined forces with another alliance, you are far off my friend. To block up against whoever is on top is just plain stupid. But if an alliance wants to win, and cant outroid whoever is at top, it should of course aim its fire at whoever is #1, but do so without any agreement with another alliance.
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heh, so alliances should try to take down bigger alliances than themselves solo? yeah, good one.
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