Dragons and Fang's allies

[TehVader]

Originally posted by dabult
The funny *coughcough* gimmick on page 1 mens, and nobody really denies it






edit; yea it is a funny definition of a block...people have forgotten all about the word allied, and replaced it with POWERBLOCK!!"!#=

Clearly you need to search your bed more closely m8

[Scorpio]

Originally posted by Razorback
Seeing how good alliances are this round i must say im not overly impressed that those with most membrs got high up in the ranks i.e. wp or vision while smaller alliances are down in the allianceranking. Ask your own hc about the fang numbers but im sure its 100+

Completely forgot this part.
I have no idea what point you are trying to make here to be honest. Please explain.

[Zh|l]

Originally posted by Scorpio
I can assure you that being high ranked wasn't the reason to attack Singu and his gal, it was a mere retal. Not our intention to make it 8-wave either, Fury simply shouldn't have defended Whereas attacking Sid was part of the para-raid, nothing special.

I assure you that r4 was hardly a real test of Fury might.

It wasnt hard to batter a superpower that had little to no leadership and was full of internal chaos underneath its shiny crimson exterior.

Historically, it was special. It was the fall of Fury and put a stop to a totally Fury dominated game.

Originally posted by Scorpio
I
I had no problem being kicked from Eclipse, as it was planned. I stayed in Eclipse to pass on defenders coords to LDK and to check for def calls etc. I had double protection from the first tick onwards. Why do you think I ignored all the warnings I got from Eclipse HC? I was safe anyway, as I could fall back on my friends.
The first thing my galaxy got to hear from me was:

[20:17] <@Scorpio> let's just abuse our alliances and play it galaxy-only (May 27 2003)

And that's what I did, I abused Eclipse. How can I be bitter if my own plan worked out perfectly (galaxy ended 4th)? If anything, I'd be bitter for having joined Eclipse in the first place.

Who cares? It's not something to be proud of mate. I did the same as you. I abused my friendship to spy for Fury, and hell yes I was loyal to Fury but it's something I wasnt proud off in the slightest.

Take a step back mate and look at what you did. Its hardly something to be content about. Note I don't really care. You just lost respect in my eyes, as I lost respect in r3 for my spying antics and spent the remaining part of my PA career climbing that particular hill.

Originally posted by Scorpio

That was the original idea yes. However, Eclipse stepped away from that idea quite early, hiding, arranging defense channels with ToT, etc. (Yes, I was Eclipse during that first part of the round.)

Which doesnt prove anything in the slightest. Part of Eclipse command decided to still run Eclipse. Just because defense was arranged and members who wanted to play still hid doesnt mean the entire alliance was playing. The original plan for Eclipse to not commit to r9.5 happened, and just because you were Eclipse for the first part of that round doesnt give you inside knowledge to command decisions.

From what I saw, Eclipse followed its original plan to not commit.

[Scorpio]

Originally posted by Zh|l
I assure you that r4 was hardly a real test of Fury might.

It wasnt hard to batter a superpower that had little to no leadership and was full of internal chaos underneath its shiny crimson exterior.

Historically, it was special. It was the fall of Fury and put a stop to a totally Fury dominated game.

Not exactly what I meant.
Singu got attacked as a retal. If Fury hadn't defended him like mad, there wouldn't have been 8 waves

Originally posted by Zh|l
Who cares? It's not something to be proud of mate. I did the same as you. I abused my friendship to spy for Fury, and hell yes I was loyal to Fury but it's something I wasnt proud off in the slightest.

Take a step back mate and look at what you did. Its hardly something to be content about. Note I don't really care. You just lost respect in my eyes, as I lost respect in r3 for my spying antics and spent the remaining part of my PA career climbing that particular hill.

See, the difference is that I spied for my friends

Originally posted by Zh|l
Which doesnt prove anything in the slightest. Part of Eclipse command decided to still run Eclipse. Just because defense was arranged and members who wanted to play still hid doesnt mean the entire alliance was playing. The original plan for Eclipse to not commit to r9.5 happened, and just because you were Eclipse for the first part of that round doesnt give you inside knowledge to command decisions.

From what I saw, Eclipse followed its original plan to not commit.

I'm not saying I had inside knowledge to command decisions
I was just describing what happened. And to me that looked like a step away from the original plans (going solo etc). You can't say "we didn't really play", coz Eclipse did. If Eclipse had wanted to lay low, they shouldn't have started playing r9.5. Everything was in place for the people that wanted to play; hiding, intel, battlegroups, def channels.
Only point that speaks for you were the silly lemmingruns towards the end (no offense to hirr). Then again... Focht...




How's EVE btw?
I'm off to buy Soul Calibur II for my GameCube now (beats EVE )

[Zh|l]

Originally posted by Scorpio


See, the difference is that I spied for my friends

No difference. I spied for my friends on the abuse of other friendships. Same thing. You abused your friendship with Olrik, myself and others to get into Eclipse to spy. Valid tactic and I'm not whining or attacking you because of it.

But its not something to be proud of.

Originally posted by Scorpio

I'm not saying I had inside knowledge to command decisions
I was just describing what happened. And to me that looked like a step away from the original plans (going solo etc). You can't say "we didn't really play", coz Eclipse did. If Eclipse had wanted to lay low, they shouldn't have started playing r9.5. Everything was in place for the people that wanted to play; hiding, intel, battlegroups, def channels.
Only point that speaks for you were the silly lemmingruns towards the end (no offense to hirr). Then again... Focht...

Infrastructure remains regardless. Not hard for that to remain, in fact its harder to change it. Eclipse didn't totally commit too r9.5 but some command members wanted to play thus the infrastructure remained to be used.

Originally posted by Scorpio

How's EVE btw?
I'm off to buy Soul Calibur II for my GameCube now (beats EVE )

Haven't been playing Eve too much the last week. Been abit busy with other things, especially since mining would take me awhile in Eve (which is what I do mainly). Hopefully I'll be back in it abit more soon

As for SCII, you are buying it for the Cube so you are my friend for that.

(I own a Cube myself - best console imo and I work for Game)

[Razorback]

The attack on sid in r3 was hardly a pararaid since there wasnt paras in r3. Sid didnt play r4 and in r5 we had no paras again. So you lie again.
The attack on singu was preplanned and a retal with 8 waves on a whole gal committing all firepower of multiple alliances to it ? keep dreaming m8.
Still the fact remains topplanets always had a special status moral and ofc estimationwise on how the war went.
Simply the topplanet is a 2 sided sword. If you attack it too early and lose the battle it can turn into a massacre and youll lose a whole night of growing for it, if you succeed you set a stone for your final victory as you took down a threat, visible to everyone and usable in your PR. Will motivate your members and set a sign to fight harder to finish the enemy off. Not to mention the "power" you destroyed from your enemies base.

[Scorpio]

Originally posted by Zh|l
No difference. I spied for my friends on the abuse of other friendships. Same thing. You abused your friendship with Olrik, myself and others to get into Eclipse to spy. Valid tactic and I'm not whining or attacking you because of it.

But its not something to be proud of.

Ah no, I already was in Eclipse (from r9 etc). With the 'return' of LDK some new opportunities presented themselves. It has nothing to do with Olrik. If anything Olrik betrayed himself for not sticking to his own rules. I only asked Olrik to vouch for me for round 9, that was the only time I 'used' him.

[Scorpio]

Originally posted by Razorback
The attack on sid in r3 was hardly a pararaid since there wasnt paras in r3. Sid didnt play r4 and in r5 we had no paras again. So you lie again.
The attack on singu was preplanned and a retal with 8 waves on a whole gal committing all firepower of multiple alliances to it ? keep dreaming m8.
Still the fact remains topplanets always had a special status moral and ofc estimationwise on how the war went.
Simply the topplanet is a 2 sided sword. If you attack it too early and lose the battle it can turn into a massacre and youll lose a whole night of growing for it, if you succeed you set a stone for your final victory as you took down a threat, visible to everyone and usable in your PR. Will motivate your members and set a sign to fight harder to finish the enemy off. Not to mention the "power" you destroyed from your enemies base.

Heuh, attack on Sid in r3??
I don't remember us attacking him in r3 (only remember finishing off SirHell after he attacked Sastul). I thought he was in p11 as well in r4. Oh well, I didn't really consider the names attached to the planets important. They were all hostile.

The attack on Singu wasn't planned, I can assure you that (hello Scorpio and Atul being head BC etc).
Chax came rushing into our priv channel saying Singu (and some from his galaxy) attacked his galaxy (Pepsi). Was the second time already I believe. He said Pepsi had just launched at 253:1 and asked for assistance. We opened a channel on PA-net, were we invited people we trusted (75% being Xanadu). There was some TFD involved from P1 and hardly any Legion, no Elysium and maybe 1 or 2 MI players. Number of people involved was around 50. Constantly the same people launching. Daily Xanadu attacks went on as if nothing was going on.
He was simply a 'target of opportunity'

[Don_Juan]

oh come on piss off......

1. if we are the bad guys, why do we have 130 hostile planets from 3 certain alliances i wont name here on our overviews each night???
2. what kind of cooperation is there supposed to be with wp again??? as far as i know wp is happily attacking whoever they want in blissfull neutrality and waiting for the hour when eet and fang have killed each other.
3. ND, well i have never even talked to a single ND member or hc/officer this round.

please go and get a clue mate, your posts have been lacking lately.

and bigjoe: if you cant be arsed to post under your real nick, but must hide behind a fake nick dont bother coming here, because everyone can see what kind of bs you post

Rofl...
why can't u all just wait and see the universal changes that will appear in the close weeks. . . Maybe none have acted yet... but someone seems a little sore, so they might "act'a'fool" very soon...

As for the "sides" I feel that PaX will turn into a Triangle drama...
I will not spread my theories just yet, on who's on wich sides, but I am pretty sure allready

[Anihilat0r]

Originally posted by Storebo
don't remember what it was.. but belive the attack happened in my absent after we had been attacked by 35:1 and guild. Or it was defence against my gal members when we attacked 35:1 maybe.. and my galm8s wanted roids.. Memory starting to get a bit blurry... been a while

Indeed.
At the time you stated that I (and thus my gal) was being retalled because I (as 'Supreme Commander' of The Guild) ordered 35:1 to attack 25:10. Which I did not, as I explained to you.
As for defending 35:1. Well I would have defended that galaxy to the very last possible ship (and did when the time came). It contained some people who were (and still are) very important to me and my former alliance.

[Scorpio]

Originally posted by Zh|l
As for SCII, you are buying it for the Cube so you are my friend for that.

(I own a Cube myself - best console imo and I work for Game)

SCII rocks. (Necrid is king)
Almost beat my bro at it, in my first game (while he had already been playing for an hour or so )

Nightmare (my bro) vs. Necrid (me):
Bro: "Hey, where's your sword, little one? Haha..."
Me opens his bag of tricks... and pulls out a mammoth-size sword.
Me: "Here it is!"
Bro: "WTF?!"

[Lei~]

The attack on sid in r3 was hardly a pararaid since there wasnt paras in r3. Sid didnt play r4 and in r5 we had no paras again. So you lie again

no idea bout the rest of the stuff but rd 4 was the first rd with paras and i think there were paras in rd 5 too combined with clusters then i think or something similiar but rd 4 was teh beginning of paras for sure

[Razorback]

Originally posted by Lei~
no idea bout the rest of the stuff but rd 4 was the first rd with paras and i think there were paras in rd 5 too combined with clusters then i think or something similiar but rd 4 was teh beginning of paras for sure

nope r5 was back to clusters again since r4 paras leaded to alot of moaning and complaining. Paras were reintruduced pack in r8 along with the overburn features.

[The_Fish]

Originally posted by Razorback
nope r5 was back to clusters again since r4 paras leaded to alot of moaning and complaining. Paras were reintruduced pack in r8 along with the overburn features.

I might have misunderstood, but Paras werent reintroduced in R8, twas clusters in R8 and then paras and clusters in r9.

[Scorpio]

Originally posted by The_Fish
I might have misunderstood, but Paras werent reintroduced in R8, twas clusters in R8 and then paras and clusters in r9.

indeed, or to use his own words:
"So you lie again."

[Storebo]

Originally posted by Anihilat0r
Indeed.
At the time you stated that I (and thus my gal) was being retalled because I (as 'Supreme Commander' of The Guild) ordered 35:1 to attack 25:10. Which I did not, as I explained to you.
As for defending 35:1. Well I would have defended that galaxy to the very last possible ship (and did when the time came). It contained some people who were (and still are) very important to me and my former alliance.

Yeah.. well u where one of the 3 main guys in guild u know.. so.. when 35:1 attacked supported by guild u know ... things got a bit out of hand. For a short while 35:1 stole #1 position =/
But I called it off. And there was no more launches... And dunno if u belive me about this.. but I had no intentions of makeing the weaker gals in the cluster into farms. And that I didn't do either... some attacks happened.. but they had their reasons. And it wasn't much that would take to make it go away, I'm a pretty decent guy actually :P

And up to the last tick I tried to persuade Requiem to change sides. He couldn't if he wanted to cause of the command members in his gal. Was with a heavy heart my gal joined to kill him, but they activly attacked the top gals so the top gals got to gether and arranged 3 wave attack on that gal. Was a very effective way of attacking actually. Each group select about 3 targes and are responsible of doing 3 waves on em. But there are sertain guys I consider worthy winners of that round. And that is me, requiem, darki, and maybe that titans guy (maybe cause he didn't like FoS either ).. don't remember his nick right now tho :P
And btw... FoS was stolen from me. I invented it in round 6. Was Followers of Supercatzz back then. And my gal tagged it for a while. I demand a thread where all FoS hc's appologize for stealing that name.

[aza1]

Originally posted by BlueArmy
r 9.5 wasnt taken seriously by many of eclipse members.. i know that many of the command group wasnt considering as an important round either.. just a "practice" for the next round. to keep the community alive...
Now i aint an eclipse member nor a commandmember so i dont know kinda plans eclipse have for this round... so i shall not make statement about it

Wether rd9.5 was taken seriously or not by eclipse members is irrelevant. Just because one alliance doesn't commit 100% to a certain rd, doesn't mean the round is less significant to the broader community. So from a community stance, eclipse being been beaten down by ldk does equate to a eclipse loss, a loss that "counts".

[Storebo]

Originally posted by aza1
Wether rd9.5 was taken seriously or not by eclipse members is irrelevant. Just because one alliance doesn't commit 100% to a certain rd, doesn't mean the round is less significant to the broader community. So from a community stance, eclipse being been beaten down by ldk does equate to a eclipse loss, a loss that "counts".

Ahh.. yes a free round where all the ldk's could have their own private of 20 planets minimum. That counts yes.

It was just a round to keep people occupied. And every alliance that wished to continue into round 10 had to play it. If they said to their members they would not be around for that round the member who would want to play a free round would have to join other alliances. So not playing active or none active would have been suicide.

[aza1]

Originally posted by Storebo
Ahh.. yes a free round where all the ldk's could have their own private of 20 planets minimum. That counts yes.

It was just a round to keep people occupied. And every alliance that wished to continue into round 10 had to play it. If they said to their members they would not be around for that round the member who would want to play a free round would have to join other alliances. So not playing active or none active would have been suicide.

cheating was rampant in the free rounds 1 to 4, so by your reasoning i guess we write those rounds off as not counting as well heh?

rd9.5 had all the characteristics of an actual round. There was a reset, a start time and a finish time. If it looks like an apple, tastes like an apple and feels like an apple........well guess what its probably an apple.

[dabult]

Originally posted by aza1
cheating was rampant in the free rounds 1 to 4, so by your reasoning i guess we write those rounds off as not counting as well heh?

rd9.5 had all the characteristics of an actual round. There was a reset, a start time and a finish time. If it looks like an apple, tastes like an apple and feels like an apple........well guess what its probably an apple.

A very rotten apple though.

[Storebo]

Originally posted by aza1
cheating was rampant in the free rounds 1 to 4, so by your reasoning i guess we write those rounds off as not counting as well heh?

rd9.5 had all the characteristics of an actual round. There was a reset, a start time and a finish time. If it looks like an apple, tastes like an apple and feels like an apple........well guess what its probably an apple.

Well.. round 4 was my first round and I only had 1 account.

But r9.5 was not a real round.. cause they SAID it wasn't a real round. Lets take your apple theory.. it have one problem... round 9.5 apple was made out of plastic. That doesn't make it very suitable for eating. A plastic apple isn't the same as a real apple.

[Storebo]

Originally posted by dabult
A very rotten apple though.

No.. it was made out of plastic. and a badly made one aswell. not worth anything. and not useable. Just something lame people can put on their tables for some weird reason...

[Parthos]

Originally posted by aza1
Wether rd9.5 was taken seriously or not by eclipse members is irrelevant. Just because one alliance doesn't commit 100% to a certain rd, doesn't mean the round is less significant to the broader community. So from a community stance, eclipse being been beaten down by ldk does equate to a eclipse loss, a loss that "counts".

Also, just because one alliance commits 100% to cheating their way to the top of a certain round and beating the rest down by those means, does not equate to a win for that alliance, a win that "counts."

[Lei~]

cheating or not there was no resistance no organisation no propper playing not only on side of eclipse but also on the side of all other non ldk allies so i wouldnt say they cheated themselves up to the top maybe some did... or for sure some did but thats like that in almost every alliance...
why there was no opposition might have the reason that some might not have taken it seriously but as you said an alliance had to carry on...
and those who carried on failed miserably in achieving anything
as did i in so far im in no way better than you only i at least admit it cos none of you eclipse players that played the round (hello storebo) can tell me you dint take the round seriously...you simply failed... admit it and get over it

[Storebo]

Originally posted by Lei~
cheating or not there was no resistance no organisation no propper playing not only on side of eclipse but also on the side of all other non ldk allies so i wouldnt say they cheated themselves up to the top maybe some did... or for sure some did but thats like that in almost every alliance...
why there was no opposition might have the reason that some might not have taken it seriously but as you said an alliance had to carry on...
and those who carried on failed miserably in achieving anything
as did i in so far im in no way better than you only i at least admit it cos none of you eclipse players that played the round (hello storebo) can tell me you dint take the round seriously...you simply failed... admit it and get over it

Actually I wasn't in Eclipse.. and got kicked from ToT... so we can say I'm neutral, since I don't got that much love for thoose who kicked me out. And it's amazing how many small guys who wubs every ldk member so much they devote their whole pa career to defend them. And of course join them in attacks. =/

Almost all ldk member had 20 planets each... using very advanced cheating tools. And some of em didn't even deny it.

[Scorpio]

Originally posted by Storebo
Almost all ldk member had 20 planets each... using very advanced cheating tools. And some of em didn't even deny it.

You're trying to convince yourself, aren't you?

[xtothez]

Originally posted by Scorpio
You're trying to convince yourself, aren't you?

Is it the job of FAnG members to come on here and argue with opposing alliance members in anyway possible? Or is it just your personal continuing role to provoke people on AD?

[Scorpio]

Originally posted by xtothez
Is it the job of FAnG members to come on here and argue with opposing alliance members in anyway possible? Or is it just your personal continuing role to provoke people on AD?

It's my role as Protector of LDK
It's just me. (And it's fun )

[LEFF|pm]

Originally posted by Kjeldoran
I promised myself not to respond to this rediculous thread, so I'm gonna react on something not related to the original meaning of this thread.

I cant believe you finally listening to me, mate


I wont go in detail here. During the last years as FAnG HC I spent many hours of browsing Community-boards like this one, and like many other Users I learned the hard way, that your chances for a serious discussion are almost zero - non existant.
In Neocron the winners of a war did always "zerg" ( to zerg is the neocron-expression for "to powerblock"), "exploit" "cheat" or played unfair in some ways.
And I know that even myself claimed others to play unfair like mentioned above. Somtimes I was right, sometimes not and altough I usually apologized ( unlike many others.... ) the statements were made and inflicted damage... more or less

You can only lead a discussion at a decent level as long you consider, that not only your opponent but you as well might be wrong. Furthermore your honest Intention has to be to find out the truth and not either protecting your ego/alliance/mate or verbal attacking other players/alliances at all costs.

These facts are simply not given in 99,99% of threads being posted. Im not rating this fact, but its still a fact noone of us will ever change

[xtothez]

Originally posted by LEFF|pm

You win* the thread.




*kjel still loses

[cbk100]

OI bobo!!!!

You are simply just one of the most sexy in this game!!!

You know I'm allied with my bot army so fear!!!

btw. I just post here so that we can say that almost half of our r9 gal has posted here.

cbk

[Silver]

[TOT] [ELY] [Eclipse]


Will fight against:

Troll[Dragons] Troll[FaNG]

Wich are the prettiests block?
my bunny eats trolls
and who will the bananas be?
can ND and Pack fill theese places so that the troll can eat or do trolls like meat?

[Scorpio]

I wish those ugly big 'smilies' could stay away from AD/PD, as they are über annoying.

[Veil05]

FAnG are evil, its true.

[Stress]

you are all nerds.
ely are neutral (edit) : so we attack what we wanna
go away
we are rank 15 in the universe. why do we matter?
now find somthing else to dream about

FanG and Goons R most likely allied tho

[Scorpio]

Originally posted by Stress
you are all nerds.
ely are neutral
go away
we are rank 15 in the universe. why do we matter?
now find somthing else to dream about

FanG and Goons R most likely allied tho

few ticks ago ely were second or something.
what are you lot doing?

[Stress]

gimme your coords. and ill tell u.

dunno prolly some core error. I doubt spinner got it right this time. I would not put much in it heh i didnt even notice

[ronnie]

Originally posted by Veil05
FAnG are evil, its true.

*vouches for this*

[Scorpio]

Originally posted by Stress
gimme your coords. and ill tell u.

dunno prolly some core error. I doubt spinner got it right this time. I would not put much in it heh i didnt even notice

just pm me on netgamers or forum, works as well..

[Razorback]

Originally posted by ronnie
*vouches for this*

another Proud to be Fang movement is born "Fang is evil" add it all to your sigs \o/

[ronnie]

Originally posted by Razorback
another Proud to be Fang movement is born "Fang is evil" add it all to your sigs \o/

will you be joining us Focht ?

our movement needs all the support we can get if we r to convince ppl that YOU are the goodies and its FAnG who are the baddies....

[Veil05]

ta focht.

[Mav]

Originally posted by Silver
Wich are the prettiests block?

The answer to your question is simple, even if Dragons and FAnG were allied, I would not call it a "Block" leaving EET the only block and therefore giving them the prettiest block competition / trophy.

[Stress]

Originally posted by Mav
The answer to your question is simple, even if Dragons and FAnG were allied, I would not call it a "Block" leaving EET the only block and therefore giving them the prettiest block competition / trophy.

look what i wrote above
and go wash your moth
ta

[Veil05]

Originally posted by Stress
FanG and Goons R most likely allied tho

how very original

[Mav]

Originally posted by Stress
go wash your moth

Leave my moth out of this, he has never hurt you mmkay.

[Scorpio]

Originally posted by Stress
and go wash your moth

It won't be able to fly anymore then

[Stress]

lol
respect a rumbeling old drunk
ill be sober tomorro

[ronnie]

Originally posted by Stress
lol
respect a rumbeling old drunk
ill be sober tomorro

for how long though ?

bloody alcies..

:jealous:

[Stress]

beer sales dont open untill 9