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Unread 21 Nov 2002, 11:47   #1
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ToT

after fang went down most likely and Adelante is no longer how the 3th part of this triad doing?

ToT still arround?
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Unread 21 Nov 2002, 11:49   #2
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<Rumad> no they can sincerely **** right off
<LB|away> you talking about women?
<Rumad> ToT and there sheep shagging leader

Think before you speak, because it might get pasted to the 'sheep shagging leader' who cancels the alliance with you.
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Unread 21 Nov 2002, 12:33   #3
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<Rumad> no they can sincerely **** right off
<LB|away> you talking about women?
<Rumad> ToT and there sheep shagging leader

Think before you speak, because it might get pasted to the 'sheep shagging leader' who cancels the alliance with you.
He's a little late for that. ToT's 'sheep shagging leader' straight face told Rumad personally that he dislikes him and would not be able to tolerate an Alliance, but merely a NAP instead.

Since they seem bitter at eachother now.....I imagine that NAP won't hold up. Wasn't Lockhead the one that said "blah blah blah, I especially salute ToT, Fang's most loyal allies ever, wohm would do whatever we asked whenever we asked"??????


That was only a day or so ago too.....sheesh.....Lock and Rumad are not on the same plane of reality it seems....


I do like ToT very much and am rather friendly personally towards Fang atm even in their troubled times. Don't think I'm trying to put down either of them here.
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Unread 21 Nov 2002, 12:44   #4
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heres a news flash for you
fang nolonger have ANY relations with tot and have delinked their server from our network


*edit* i believe they are allied to fury now at the hands of lockhead
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fang nolonger have ANY relations with tot and have delinked their server from our network


*edit* i believe they are allied to fury now at the hands of lockhead
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Unread 21 Nov 2002, 13:00   #6
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I like ToT aswell... their HC was often more diplomatic then FAnG's and was willing to make compromise etc..
Also..... 60-70% of FAnG hc is traded out... it is not the same.. So the friendships on hc levels might not be the same now.. And since the other hc's that was kicked out was kicked in bad blod.. that would be tech hc and rumad getting together and removing their access etc.. heh. Well ToT/FAnG hc relationship had to suffer.

But ToT/FAnG still have the same enemies.. so don't see a reason why they should cancel the nap anymore. Think ToT just didn't like to be in joint hc channels with people they didn't like =)
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wow....current Fang are reminding me of NoS at the end of R4. I don't feel so bad about things now that I see clear proof that no matter how good an alliance is, when it's HC split and bad blood develops, there is no hope.

Will LuX play a role in this Fang-Split?
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Unread 21 Nov 2002, 13:33   #9
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THIS IS NO OFFICIAL STATEMENT! (to make it clear )

consider that ToT/FAnG member often know each other and like each other. so, y should friends turn their backs to each other cause officially the alliances splitted?

again: ofc, NO official announcement
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Unread 21 Nov 2002, 13:42   #10
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Re: ToT

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after fang went down most likely and Adelante is no longer how the 3th part of this triad doing?

ToT still arround?
to manny mulites to delete them all :/
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Unread 21 Nov 2002, 14:46   #11
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ToT set their relations with FAnG from allied to NAP
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ROFL

a german guy would say:

"Neid der Besitzlosen"

I was suspected to be multi too, guess why?

right, a planet some where out there had a name, that is close to mine, so the guy i attacked said "you will be deleted, you multi".

What I want to say:
Get evediences to strengenth your argumentation or stfu
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ROFL

a german guy would say:

"Neid der Besitzlosen"

I was suspected to be multi too, guess why?

right, a planet some where out there had a name, that is close to mine, so the guy i attacked said "you will be deleted, you multi".

What I want to say:
Get evediences to strengenth your argumentation or stfu
u REALLY want me to post all the info on this forum ?
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Unread 21 Nov 2002, 16:56   #15
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u REALLY want me to post all the info on this forum ?
please do \o/
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Unread 21 Nov 2002, 17:14   #16
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Like i argued

LOL

[18:52] <[ToT]Marduk> <Rumad> no they can sincerely **** right off
[18:52] <[ToT]Marduk> <LB|away> you talking about women?
[18:52] <[ToT]Marduk> <Rumad> ToT and there sheep shagging leader
[18:52] <[ToT]Marduk> and thats what we will do now
[18:52] <Rumad> ok
[18:52] <Rumad> bye

This is what u told in ur HC-channel last weekend to your other HCs, but you didnt end our alliance. You were persuaded by the other HCs to continue the relations as alliance.
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FAnG is far from dead we are still here and we still have a good core membership. At the moment our only enemy is time and we haev to reorganise. Tbh we have seen a vast improvement in memebr coverage.

all the planets worthy of getting real attacks on them went to fury....:/
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can we even hit Fang anymore?...isn't there that 20% rule thing?
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FAnG is far from dead we are still here and we still have a good core membership. At the moment our only enemy is time and we haev to reorganise. Tbh we have seen a vast improvement in memebr coverage.

FAnG isnt dead, but we are realists if things are gonna get back to normal then we have other priorities.
FAnG's only enemy atm seems to be inadequate leadership.
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Unread 21 Nov 2002, 21:29   #25
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At the moment our only enemy is time and we haev to reorganise.
It seems to me that your enemies are conversations in pm, humor, intelligence, good manners and social competence.


Btw, this thread is supposed to deal with us, so pls stop spamming about FAnG in here
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ToT were always quite rocking allies. Other than the fact they are all fkin insane. Anyone that can spread those types of links has a chemical imbalance somewhere :/
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ToT is alive and will be also in future, Betrayer! you shouldnt see ToT as wing ally or bitch-ally for topallys!
we exist much longer than FAnG and never lost a round till yet!
but some FAnG HCs have good experience in that!
or lockhead, my friend...still remember R6 and the loosing 23:9?? hrhr
well, I liked to fang HCs, especially Locki, Leff and Cray, but after their quitting of fang, it wont be the same anymore!
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we exist much longer than FAnG and never lost a round till yet!
don't make me start another r6 discussion and yes i remember the time ToT got born r4 i was wondering why templar did ally (or nap can't remember exactly) u at this time ^^
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ToT is alive and will be also in future, Betrayer! you shouldnt see ToT as wing ally or bitch-ally for topallys!
we exist much longer than FAnG and never lost a round till yet!
planetarion is all about winning - and if you dont, you lose

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ToT were founded at the end of R4! and the members who joined ToT were all high ranked and in good galaxys!
R5 we had 3top ten gals, all ToT gals were in the top250! 30 of 50members were in the top1000, 5 in top100!
that call you loosing a round?
R6 we had the some problem like whole FLTTV! first 6 weeks we lost against Xeta/FoS step by step! after FoS napped with FLTTV nearly all ToT gals went back in top100 and we still had a good round!
so perhaps you should inform the next time better before you tell such bull****!
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na i'v had that debate with u before... so it wont end up in your hands... thats for sure
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what the hell..... when he pleases me with his presence

"PS: mein einer planet is in vacation, der zweite (48:5:6) wird mit newsscans überwacht, und der dritte hat noch einigermassen score is auch in ner ruhigen gal. Alle anderen planets,bei denen ich daueraushelfer bin, haben Pech gehabt." <-- LOL

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ToT were founded at the end of R4! and the members who joined ToT were all high ranked and in good galaxys!
R5 we had 3top ten gals, all ToT gals were in the top250! 30 of 50members were in the top1000, 5 in top100!
that call you loosing a round?
R6 we had the some problem like whole FLTTV! first 6 weeks we lost against Xeta/FoS step by step! after FoS napped with FLTTV nearly all ToT gals went back in top100 and we still had a good round!
so perhaps you should inform the next time better before you tell such bull****!
heh
i dont give a flying rat about your excuses for this and that

R4 VeX
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R6 Nos/WP(deus etc)

correct? thx

and if not winning=not losing either - how do you define losing in the 1337 world of planetarion?
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heh
i dont give a flying rat about your excuses for this and that

R4 VeX
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R6 Nos/WP(deus etc)

correct? thx

and if not winning=not losing either - how do you define losing in the 1337 world of planetarion?
I didnt say that we were the number 1 ally! since R4, we had always powerblocks! btw: fury was on rank3 in R4, so it was no total victory for VeX, but doesnt matter!
when you think that being a top10 ally with 50 members in a game with 25k planets (like round5) is loosing a round then its correct! but in my opinion its great to be a top10 ally with such a small number of members since 3 rounds(well this round we have a bit more, but thats not the theme now)!
if you are so a great man like u try to be, form an ally with 50members and become a top10 ally, then talk me again! or shut up!
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blah..blah...Betrayer..read BILD-Zeitung.......so u can get the same information as here
Hmn ... perhaps that one article from R4?
(That was in the BILD, wasn't it?)
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Unread 22 Nov 2002, 00:35   #38
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if you are so a great man like u try to be, form an ally with 50members and become a top10 ally, then talk me again! or shut up!
How many accounts per member?
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I didnt say that we were the number 1 ally! since R4, we had always powerblocks! btw: fury was on rank3 in R4, so it was no total victory for VeX, but doesnt matter!
when you think that being a top10 ally with 50 members in a game with 25k planets (like round5) is loosing a round then its correct! but in my opinion its great to be a top10 ally with such a small number of members since 3 rounds(well this round we have a bit more, but thats not the theme now)!
if you are so a great man like u try to be, form an ally with 50members and become a top10 ally, then talk me again! or shut up!
what would the germans do without exclamation marks!
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Unread 22 Nov 2002, 00:49   #40
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How many accounts per member?
one acc per member till end of round 7! this round we have of course 5 planets per member at least! because we love it to be multis and get our accounts closed! *löl*
perhaps you should ask this Killmark or one of the other super-multis and bot users! we arent Deus or MDK!
btw: in R8 only one member was closed! compared with other allys its really good! and this one member was definitly no multi! but was at beginning of R8 so I dont want to discuss it again!
look for multis where multis are!
ToT rulz, accept it or not! we were and are a good ally!
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I didnt say that we were the number 1 ally! since R4, we had always powerblocks! btw: fury was on rank3 in R4, so it was no total victory for VeX, but doesnt matter!
when you think that being a top10 ally with 50 members in a game with 25k planets (like round5) is loosing a round then its correct! but in my opinion its great to be a top10 ally with such a small number of members since 3 rounds(well this round we have a bit more, but thats not the theme now)!
if you are so a great man like u try to be, form an ally with 50members and become a top10 ally, then talk me again! or shut up!
agreed, well fought!

fact remains tho; alliances like fury etc needs outside players in friendly alliances to fill up their galaxies. Elysium even used the Angel alliance for that purpose...

so... to be allied with fury and thereby end up with a lot of players in great galaxies.. it does earn a great amount of respect, still.. - there is a but

and to say r6 didnt make you a loser, just like the rest of FLVTT.. and elysium aswell.. the assraping early on marked you as one, no matter what happened later
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Unread 22 Nov 2002, 00:59   #42
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agreed, well fought!

fact remains tho; alliances like fury etc needs outside players in friendly alliances to fill up their galaxies. Elysium even used the Angel alliance for that purpose...

so... to be allied with fury and thereby end up with a lot of players in great galaxies.. it does earn a great amount of respect, still.. - there is a but

and to say r6 didnt make you a loser, just like the rest of FLVTT.. and elysium aswell.. the assraping early on marked you as one, no matter what happened later
well, powerblocks means, win together or loose together! R6 it was FLTTV against whole universe! yes we lost! and? but we were R5 and R7 in the winner-block! and do you really think an ally like Fury or Legion would let a small ally in their powerblock as fullmember of the powerblock if they arent a good ally?
well feel free to think another way! but you will see at the end we'll be again a top10 ally! this round also without powerblocks!
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well, powerblocks means, win together or loose together! R6 it was FLTTV against whole universe! yes we lost! and? but we were R5 and R7 in the winner-block! and do you really think an ally like Fury or Legion would let a small ally in their powerblock as fullmember of the powerblock if they arent a good ally?
well feel free to think another way! but you will see at the end we'll be again a top10 ally! this round also without powerblocks!
If you could use a . to end your sentences, instead of a ! ....
You dont have to "scream" it out, it only makes you look like a 14 year old
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If you could use a . to end your sentences, instead of a ! ....
You dont have to "scream" it out, it only makes you look like a 14 year old
Im 8 years old! and Im a child! didnt u know that?
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well, powerblocks means, win together or loose together! R6 it was FLTTV against whole universe! yes we lost! and? but we were R5 and R7 in the winner-block! and do you really think an ally like Fury or Legion would let a small ally in their powerblock as fullmember of the powerblock if they arent a good ally?
well feel free to think another way! but you will see at the end we'll be again a top10 ally! this round also without powerblocks!
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we exist much longer than FAnG and never lost a round till yet!
point taken?

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Elysium even used the Angel alliance for that purpose...
That didn't exactly go through as discussed. Angel did their usual trick of signing up all their members in 2-3 priv gals, and farming/fence-sitting their way to decent ranks (where they were summarially and deservedly roided by VtS).
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point taken?

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in my eyes we didnt lost round 6! because at the end of the round most of our gals and members were high ranked! I just wanted to say, that FLTTV didnt won this round alone!
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in my eyes we didnt lost round 6! because at the end of the round most of our gals and members were high ranked! I just wanted to say, that FLTTV didnt won this round alone!

thats because nobody losted round 6! nobody wonned round 6 either! but clearly no side can win a round without being allied to ToT! ToT r0x0r for their leetness and ghey pr0n and no cheating whatsoever!
excuse me! i'm getting over excited and must take my medication!
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always saw ToT as the little brother alliance (no offence) they always seemed to be the sheep alliance that hitched on to someone else and did as they were told never kicked up a fuss never declaied war alone never threated anyone and never put them selfs in to any spot light cituation for anyone to take mutch notice of them

weather this is to blame on there (think of nice way to put it) inexperanced HC staff at times always dident do there job to there fullest since i first started watching/Spying on ToT since late Rnd 5 i noticed that they had a way of sinking under someone elses shadow and lacked a key leader to stick his foot in the door when times be harder
as Sonnenbomber asked me last round why RaH dident talk to ToT about relations when we had a nap with Virus i shruged it off as intresting comment as i saw it ToT had no leaveridge they were on a simular poptical stance to Giuld (no offence)


ToT are a very good ally and do, do alot for there members Politicaly they are the Sheep like and dont hold the same status as an alliance like Fury
ToT seem to be more Comunity ish than Alliance
in PA your an Alliance first an community 2nd
im sure the ToT comunity will continue on after PA when many of the Stronger PA alliances have long since broken up and gone there seprate ways
all the Best to ToT for the rest of this round anyway
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My impression of ToT has generally been good . . . until today when all I see is some of their members making asses out of themselves while attempting to make asses out of FAnG, and others that can't end sentences with anything other than ?'s and !'s. I guess what gave me a good impression was that they were generally QUIET on AD, and didn't have to spam. I won't go so far as to say they were ever anywhere near the top of my list for best alliances, but I always figured they were one of the best small alliances. But overall, they seem to be a pretty intelligent, coherent group. Well done over several rounds.
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