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Unread 8 Aug 2010, 21:37   #1
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Active Exile Flag

So sitting here thinking about how exiles work, and how people abuse them. I think there are two fundamental types of players who exile. Active players who are looking for an active (and preferably good) galaxy. And newbies and casual players who are usually exiled out of their own galaxies and are simply logging back in and ending up in a new galaxy.

On the other side there are two types of galaxies that have spaces that people exile into. Active galaxies who are trying to get decent active players into their galaxies (and occasionally those who are trying to fortress), and dead galaxies which no active player really wants to be in and usually end up populated by newbies.

What I purpose is a system by which active galaxies can have a higher chance of getting active players, and active players can have a smaller chance of getting into a dead galaxy.

Here is the purposed plan:
Gals who exile out planets will have the option of setting a "Active player flag" in the politics section. This flag would reset every 24 hours and require all four gal ministers to recheck it for it to be renabled. By setting this flag it would increase the chance of them getting a player who is active (to be explained shortly). Because the flag needs to be set on a regular basis it is much less likely to be set for a dead gal, so in most cases only truly active galaxies would set it. Active galaxies could still get random exiles, but would at least have a better shot at getting an active exile.

For players who are exiling out of their galaxies they will have an option to pay an extra 10% cost to their exile cost to guarantee themselves to be exiled into a gal with the "active galaxy" tag set. If for some reason no galaxy has this flag set, the extra cost would be refunded.

Other than these changes exiling would work just as it does now.

Note: One caveat that was asked, is if a galaxy is considered as "full" by the exile system, yet is the only galaxy that is flagged as "active" it will still not receive any exiles. Only galaxies that are actually eligible for exiles will receive them.
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Re: Active Exile Flag

Make the ****ing galaxies ****ing bigger for the love of ****ing god.
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Re: Active Exile Flag

something definitely needs to be done with the current system because exiling into a galaxy with 3 planets and "THERE WILL BE A MASS EXILE OUT OF THIS GAL! DO NOT GET COMFY!" as the message from the commanders is totally awesome.
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Re: Active Exile Flag

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Make the ****ing galaxies ****ing bigger for the love of ****ing god.
While not the purpose of my original post, I think part of the reason gals are so small is the player base was smaller than anticipated. Coupled with 3 man BPs meant in general terms there were going to be more and therefore smaller galaxies anyway.
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Re: Active Exile Flag

We had these bp sizes before and galaxies started off as 7/8 man. As there's been a slight decline in the playerbase the last few rounds I would have thought it'd be fairly obvious that they'd be the same size or smaller.
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Great Idea Monroe
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Re: Active Exile Flag

NO

we dont need to make it easier to exile into "top" gals

we have to get rid of exiles to make ppl play with nubs and new players!
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Just remove galaxies and introduce a different form of geography in the game that does not limit a player's interaction pool this much.
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Just remove galaxies and introduce a different form of geography in the game that does not limit a player's interaction pool this much.
this too. though its been discussed into the ground.
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Re: Active Exile Flag

To expand on Zaejii's response, I would be totally interested in a different concept of geography, unfortunately the simple fact is that none of these forms has ever seen the light of day development wise. So what I purpose is a simple tweak to what already exists (something that is commonly done by Cin) that would allow active people to play together easier, without resorting to private galaxies or an easily abusable system.

Any system of geography that PA uses has to balance the needs of newbies and casual players with the hard core player base. Unfortunately no one has ever suggested an easy answer to this problem that the PA Team has been able to implement. My suggestion might move us in the right direction... then again perhaps not.
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Actually, removing galaxies has not been done because PA team considered it to be too big of a change for players to follow.
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Actually, removing galaxies has not been done because PA team considered it to be too big of a change for players to follow.
While this is indeed true, the one does not exclude the other.
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Re: Active Exile Flag

Agree with this suggestion.

As an active / semi-active player who usually has terribly bad luck with exiles I would very much like the option to pay 10% extra but have a bigger chance to land somewhere decent...

Being thrown from one crappy gal to the other with hardly any actives isn't much fun at all.
Especially taking into consideration that you have to wait 3 ticks after an exile and can't exile with fleets out.
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Just remove galaxies and introduce a different form of geography in the game that does not limit a player's interaction pool this much.
Question is if you (read: not you personally) can come up with something completely different rather then something that just has a different name but functions like a galaxy :-)
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Thanks, didn't know there was a discussion about that already (I've been out of the loop for 4-5 years remember). So why was it that the idea you and Heartless described didn't get implemented?
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Read the few posts below the one you quoted.
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Read the few posts below the one you quoted.
Ahh yes, spank my lazy ass. It's a shame because your suggestion (with Heartless) actually does sound good. It'd change this game alot and also the approach of alliances in regards of politics. Perhaps a fresh turn to kick this game alive again and indeed a better way to "protect" new players.
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Agree with this suggestion.

As an active / semi-active player who usually has terribly bad luck with exiles I would very much like the option to pay 10% extra but have a bigger chance to land somewhere decent...

Being thrown from one crappy gal to the other with hardly any actives isn't much fun at all.
Especially taking into consideration that you have to wait 3 ticks after an exile and can't exile with fleets out.
Fcking stand up for them peons if u think u are any cool. Only a lousy player is looking for others huge backup.
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