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Unread 7 Jul 2003, 09:06   #1
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seraphim, sad hehe

I selfexiled from my original galaxy and ended up in C-n00b. Amazingy in a galaxy thats relatively active, but got bashed a lot. We worked on it, got ourselves in the P alliance and the few playes with alliance grew, helping the others. We get hit more then averadge cause heh, we stand out in the high clusters i guess, being top 250 was like a little party for us even.

But sometimes, sometimes you just have to shake your head and wonder where this game has gotten to. There is this player in my galaxy, new to the game, no alliance, 3.5m score cause she is active.
Today we got hit...by seraphim i been told. You look at the galstat and you wonder if they are too chicken to find themselfs a DECENT target. Its like hitting in p....if the only way you can get roids is hitting low eta and bashing at score limit...then there is NOT much to be proud of.

Link following is the 3.5m newbie in our gal. We managed to cover her several times but since this time ALL our planets look like this, i guess its a lost battle here...

HOPE YOU ARE PROUD:P
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Unread 7 Jul 2003, 09:13   #2
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Unread 7 Jul 2003, 09:16   #3
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You should be proud! If you get 11 hostile fleets teaming up on your planet it means you must have done something right!
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Unread 7 Jul 2003, 09:17   #4
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it should be noted that alot of alliances use such tactics (not just seraphim as was the case here if sigirds intel is correct), wether they are moral or ethical is another question.
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Unread 7 Jul 2003, 09:23   #6
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If I had ships like that I'd be bugging LDK on a daily basis. Will get me rid of those ships though. But it's a bit more exciting.
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just another fine example of the degradation of Planetarion.


the level of bashing keeps increasing every round, and the overall attitude of the average Planetarion player is full of hate and contempt these days.

some of the Pa mails i have seen this round have just been shameful heh.


oh well PA made its bed, everyone gets to lie in it.

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bashing as been part of pa since i started playing rd3..........ppl always like to remember the good old days and seem to obmit remembering certain things like the bashing that went on because it might taint the way they remember it.
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Unread 7 Jul 2003, 09:42   #9
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it should be noted that alot of alliances use such tactics (not just seraphim as was the case here if sigirds intel is correct), wether they are moral or ethical is another question.
I know for sure mine doesnot.
And my intel is correct
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Unread 7 Jul 2003, 09:47   #10
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dont complain

my galaxy is outside top250 soon, and we get such incs almost daily.

and perhaps a reason why alliances such as seraphim must do such is that they dont have as 'leet', 'active', and multi using members like other alliances.
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Unread 7 Jul 2003, 11:23   #11
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Hmm, dont whine everyone gets an overkill of attackers
For myself I got 90M+ of total score incoming last week. that's 5x my score, was proud on that btw :-)

Ofcourse we got it covered
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speaking of over kill LDK are being right twats to a top10 gal, especially since the gal had LDK in it!
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Unread 7 Jul 2003, 12:01   #13
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So how long before your gal fleet catches the larger attackers on the way out?
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Unread 7 Jul 2003, 12:35   #15
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this game is simple:
find a easy target, roid it,get minimum losses, grow big.
anyone who thinks that morals have anything to do with a game needs a reality check.
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this game is simple:
find a easy target, roid it,get minimum losses, grow big.
anyone who thinks that morals have anything to do with a game needs a reality check.
There's a difference between morals and senseless overkill. This sort of thing is what causes new players to quit and never return, while all the time people moan about lack of targets to hit. How do you expect the game to ever recover if new, active players are subjected to this retarded treatment?
And from a military point of view, I very much doubt anyone in that gal (especially the 50 roid planets) was worth that much incoming. It smells like abuse of authority from the commanding alliance's mil staff in a case of "If you wont let me land, I'll just bash you to ****". If I were Seraphim HC (assuming this incident was run by that alliance), I would be immediately finding out who was incompentant enough for such abuse of power.

Edit: upon closer examination of the planet in question, I'd be reporting this to the hunters, several of those hostiles look alot like freebie escort accounts...
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Unread 7 Jul 2003, 13:26   #18
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Edit: upon closer examination of the planet in question, I'd be reporting this to the hunters, several of those hostiles look alot like freebie escort accounts...
I hope ur not talking about my planet

I am in a BG that organised an attack on this gal as well, but we didn't have mindless overkill like this (I was the only one on this gal for our attack, and being approx. 3-4 mil bigger than the target u could understand why I would take it on my own )

To say I am annoyed is an understatement. I was perfectly happy with my attack, and the n00bs have to ruin it.

Before you flame me about joining the bashing with them, please note my alliance.

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Unread 7 Jul 2003, 13:43   #19
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owwww, second wave:P

another alliance-less new player in my galaxy (who took 3 weeks to get on irc). Please note he has 1.9m score and 200 roids....

http://www.pilkara.com/parsers.php?scanid=1631778635

(ingal defence btw)
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Unread 7 Jul 2003, 13:50   #20
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nice update on the planet i was talking about in my original post:P

http://www.pilkara.com/parsers.php?scanid=23406248

anybody who wants the coords to make them feel the same, feel free to pm me
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What a waste of ships.
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Unread 7 Jul 2003, 14:43   #22
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My GC asked me to post this:

from galchannel:

[15:38] <jatr> sigrid.. post this for me in your thread (i cant post due to the forum bug)
[15:39] <jatr> A force like that should be used to take out a top 50 galaxy with hostile planets
[15:39] <jatr> not a barely made top 250 gal with a bunch of allianceless planets


clearly i agree, heh
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owwww, second wave:P

another alliance-less new player in my galaxy (who took 3 weeks to get on irc). Please note he has 1.9m score and 200 roids....

http://www.pilkara.com/parsers.php?scanid=1631778635

(ingal defence btw)

put it in a different thread coss it werent seraphim.
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pffff

waste of ships, lack of honour and i have lots and lots of targets for the remaining time of this rnd, where im gonna visit some of these planets


soz to see this sigrid
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put it in a different thread coss it werent seraphim.
it was..
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some planets may have, or maybe ur gal ws so fat that 2 groups launched same time(or 1 tick apart).


Just cuz a few planets were, doesnt mean they all are.
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/me is seraphim and proud of it
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some planets may have, or maybe ur gal ws so fat that 2 groups launched same time(or 1 tick apart).


Just cuz a few planets were, doesnt mean they all are.

yes, a 3.4 m target with 240 roids is indeed so fat you need 11 hostile fleets on it:P
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some planets may have, or maybe ur gal ws so fat that 2 groups launched same time(or 1 tick apart).


Just cuz a few planets were, doesnt mean they all are.
In fact you are right about the 2 groups launching... but I was the only one attacking that planet in my group....

Its quite ironic that I got 95% of the roids that were capped whilst I was there (about 90 roids)....

Nice going seraphim
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Sad.

(how did you manage ETA 7 'ingal' defence on the second planet with a full techtree btw? :P )
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In fact you are right about the 2 groups launching... but I was the only one attacking that planet in my group....

Its quite ironic that I got 95% of the roids that were capped whilst I was there (about 90 roids)....

Nice going seraphim
i seriously duobt u manage to take a whole planet alone yeggs :]


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you mean there are/where "elite" alliances that don't use the 5-or-more-double overkill tactic? which ones?
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owwww, second wave:P

another alliance-less new player in my galaxy (who took 3 weeks to get on irc). Please note he has 1.9m score and 200 roids....

http://www.pilkara.com/parsers.php?scanid=1631778635

(ingal defence btw)
*sigh*

And yet again... cowardiss to gain roids... was some what worse for me last round... 2mill, 80 roids, and they were STILL 2 waving me. If i remember correctly, we had inc for 2 weeks.... 2 waves a day. heh. As i said then, and i shall say again... i can still remember the days when attacking alone used to work, and be very profitable, now, with everyone online a lot more, its a lot harder to gain the edge when attacking... between that, and spies helping out / scan planets being able to get all scans through no prob blah blah blah. There are certain people out there who want to 'win' at all costs... if bashing their way, so be it, if cheating is there way... who are we to stop em... I despise of cheaters, why do u think i work hard at multihunting.

Anyway, things have changed, people become desperate for roids and will bash to gain even 10 roids... (yes, a few times last round, the overkill decoy fleets forgot to pull, mucking up the capping!) its a sad state to be in, and i wish something could be done about it...
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i seriously duobt u manage to take a whole planet alone yeggs :]


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Contrary to public opinion, I DO know what I am doing :P

I aint stupid to overkill like that...
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Contrary to public opinion, I DO know what I am doing :P

I aint stupid to overkill like that...
What r u doing here??

Shouldnt u be shagging, loudly, in a 2 million pound tent ffs.
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What r u doing here??

Shouldnt u be shagging, loudly, in a 2 million pound tent ffs.
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Keep your ratio low and you wont get attacked.

Bashing is not possible with the 20% limit. Being such a good target in that you attract multiple attackers is.
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heh

reminds me of whe n superior tried to get my roids in r4. eventually, they got through too. With one of the über overkills...and dont say this is something Seraphim r the only ones doing
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Keep your ratio low and you wont get attacked.

Bashing is not possible with the 20% limit. Being such a good target in that you attract multiple attackers is.
Nah, a 5 miller clearly can't bash a 1 miller. Especially not if there's ten 5 million planets teaming up on one 1 million.
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Keep your ratio low and you wont get attacked.

Bashing is not possible with the 20% limit. Being such a good target in that you attract multiple attackers is.

I suggest you click the links and then tell me that aint bashing, heh
and since when is 3.4 m score and 240 roids GOOD?
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What r u doing here??

Shouldnt u be shagging, loudly, in a 2 million pound tent ffs.
No, I do have to work as well, sometimes I get bored and read these boards (yes I know, I've stooped to a new low)

I leave my shagging for the weekends thanks
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Unread 8 Jul 2003, 09:27   #42
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Sad.

(how did you manage ETA 7 'ingal' defence on the second planet with a full techtree btw? :P )
Also without a full techtree it is impossible, so think before you post :P
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anyway a very lame attack on my little gal. and it was seraphim attacking cause I got a nice sms of one of their members 3 hours before the attack... ofc I am inactive ass hell and prefered sleep over reading the damn thing.

good to know some of the attackers will be closed soon.
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Sigrid stop moaning fs. Ppl hit other ppl because they want roids, there are no ethics in this game
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I suggest you click the links and then tell me that aint bashing, heh
and since when is 3.4 m score and 240 roids GOOD?
Perhaps they got the 'noob' and your planet co ords confused and sent a lot more incoming than was actually needed to destroy the planet. As you can 'command' far more defence than a nublet can.

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I seem to recall having a convo similar to this, roles reversed about Fury bashing people in round 3.....

why I remember this, I dunno but its not nice being on this side is it??
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Sigrid stop moaning fs. Ppl hit other ppl because they want roids, there are no ethics in this game
strenght and honour..:P


I dont moan, i am perfectly happy being in the gal i am in, i am merely pointing out tactics on that attack were stupid and that things like this eventually kill the game cause you get NO new ppl playing pa ever.

And kileman, i got the sarcasm, why dont you try posting a sensible reply in my posts for once, or better, DONT reply.
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Also without a full techtree it is impossible, so think before you post :P
with no eta reduction and battleships, i guess u will have eta 10 in gal right? or eta 9.. so its possible to have eta 7 ingal without a full techtree..
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Also without a full techtree it is impossible, so think before you post :P
Point remains the same, but fair enough
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with no eta reduction and battleships, i guess u will have eta 10 in gal right? or eta 9.. so its possible to have eta 7 ingal without a full techtree..
Since when is in-gal travel time affected by tech tree upgrades?
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