Hello PA Team

[Scorpio]

Originally posted by lokken
It's come to my attention that despite your best efforts (which I'm sure everyone is thankful for, Mit has done the best he can with what he has), you've failed to delete enough people who cheat. I've come to realise this from the amount of retarded flaming on Alliance Discussions of late (which has irritated me a great deal along with some others), not to mention my own observations.

Of course, I don't have evidence of this because it's not my job, it's those with the intelligence within the game and also funnily enough, yours to actually delete and detect the people who do cheat quite a bit. Surely that is the point of multi 'hunters' who are probably quite undermanned. Of course you say, you don't have the evidence to give a concrete decision on a planet, but quite honestly that's not good enough.

Perhaps a small indication of the current level of anti-cheat actions...
ParraCida at work

Originally posted by Spinner
The new round already has tools and evidence collection that are far better than the old ones, and they aint finished yet.

Still, the ultimate decision is made by humans, isn't it? And boy, do you make mistakes there

[Mit]

Originally posted by Scorpio
Still, the ultimate decision is made by humans, isn't it? And boy, do you make mistakes there

Think about it thou, humans can also see things that software can't. Software can see only the things its told to see

[Elevator]

Originally posted by Spinner
The tools we have had to work with have been inadequate, no question about it. An old system , with lots of cache-levels, badly maintained over 3 years of card-house building for a system really made for A LOT mroe players, have taken their toll on certain aspects of our systems.

The new round already has tools and evidence collection that are far better than the old ones, and they aint finished yet.

One question comes to mind still.
With all the new fancy equipment you have developed now, that is all working PERFECTLY well, we hope, by start-up. How many players will you assume PA is able to handle? Or is this a "we'll have to wait and see"-question?

Just wondering because of the simple facts that there is no use to attract a lot of new players if the game contains errors on every other page (I would rather have the errors and 100k players...but still).

[Scorpio]

Originally posted by Mit
Think about it thou, humans can also see things that software can't. Software can see only the things its told to see

well yes, but in my case they already had al the evidence they needed, yet still I didn't get deleted.

[ParraCida]

Originally posted by Scorpio
Still, the ultimate decision is made by humans, isn't it? And boy, do you make mistakes there

Actually, you can count your blessings on the fact that I didnt make the call on you, because had it been mine you'd been outta here before you could have said scanplanet.

Incidentally, are you proud that you got away with cheating or just proud that you cheated?

[Scorpio]

Originally posted by ParraCida
Actually, you can count your blessings on the fact that I didnt make the call on you, because had it been mine you'd been outta here before you could have said scanplanet.

Incidentally, are you proud that you got away with cheating or just proud that you cheated?

So multihunters have to consult with Spinner on each case?
That's kinda silly.

Why scanplanet? . I used them as escort when I was in Eclipse, so escort-planet would be a better word.

Nothing to be proud of really, but more amazed by the stupidity of some people (not) closing cheaters.

[ParraCida]

Originally posted by Scorpio
So multihunters have to consult with Spinner on each case?
That's kinda silly.

That's not what I said, not sure how you came to that conclusion.
It's common practice for multihunters to consult others regarding certain cases, in your case you were the GC of a top gal and in direct competition with mine, I felt it would be prudent to share the case with other admins.

Why scanplanet? . I used them as escort when I was in Eclipse, so escort-planet would be a better word.

It's an expression

Nothing to be proud of really, but more amazed by the stupidity of some people (not) closing cheaters.

So proud that you got away with it then.

[Vaio]

Originally posted by Scorpio
Perhaps a small indication of the current level of anti-cheat actions...
ParraCida at work

fs, and I thought the Chewbacca defence was ropey, cousin huh ?

Vaio

[Fifth_teletubbie]

Originally posted by ParraCida
Actually, you can count your blessings on the fact that I didnt make the call on you, because had it been mine you'd been outta here before you could have said scanplanet.

Incidentally, are you proud that you got away with cheating or just proud that you cheated?

Who did make that call? Please tell me, since I've been empowered by her Majesty's government to sell this nice bridge you see.....

[Scorpio]

Originally posted by Fifth_teletubbie
Who did make that call? Please tell me, since I've been empowered by her Majesty's government to sell this nice bridge you see.....

based on what Parra told me, Spinner made that call. (Makes sense as well actually )

[G.K Zhukov]

I always wondered how f******* difficult it is, to delete those 2mill xan planets with almost no CO fleet and whos always escorting bigger planets.

[lokken]

Originally posted by Fifth_teletubbie
* one account per credit card

I'm sorry, but although I can see why you've made such a suggestion, I think implementing such a rule is impossible. Not everyone can afford an account, or they do not have the means via a card to pay. I fall into the second category, because I choose not to have the potential finanacial burden a credit card might bring.

By making such a rule, you effectively remove a number of players from the game that wouldn't be there otherwise. Not to mention removing extra income for PA. It would be silly otherwise and quite frankly if people want to pay to cheat, let them - they waste cash if they get deleted, there's way more at stake than with a free planet.

On another note, I think Scorpio's post illustrates exactly why I made this post, although he quoted Spinner as me, which was quite scary really.

[Scorpio]

Originally posted by lokken
On another note, I think Scorpio's post illustrates exactly why I made this post, although he quoted Spinner as me, which was quite scary really.

hehe, sorry.
Manually quoting isn't exactly what I do best. But fixed it now

[lokken]

Originally posted by Scorpio
hehe, sorry.
Manually quoting isn't exactly what I do best. But fixed it now :)

:p