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Veil05 · 3 Dec 2004, 05:55

how about you can design your own ship when you sign up a new planet? for instance;

Ship001: lowest possible ratings for everything (250 of each res.)

- 1 initiative: 500 of each res.
+1 power: 500 of each res.
+1 gun: 1000 of each res.

this is just an example, i think ti would make game alot more intressting if you could invent ONE ship and build it through the round. ofc no initiative dropping on pods. so for instance you could build a modern day BS with +2 guns at just 2000 of each res extra u could make up for them resourses buy having +2 intiative - 1power - 1WpSp

this is just an idea. discuss...

MAdnRisKy · 3 Dec 2004, 15:13

I don't trust most of the people beta testing to create balanced stats... and I deffo don't trust PA crew.

so i sure as hell ain't trusting the average player.

Dear god!

mist · 3 Dec 2004, 16:18

this would require a significant change to the combat engine, which would make ticking take longer

-mist

Slowfinger · 4 Dec 2004, 07:40

It is a nice idea though, maybe something pateam can try during beta testing, see what ppl come up with.

mist · 4 Dec 2004, 07:43

to beta test, it has to be coded

-mist

Veil05 · 4 Dec 2004, 09:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by mist

to beta test, it has to be coded

-mist

im assuming this type of code will take a LONG time yes?

ThunderCat · 4 Dec 2004, 10:08

how long?dont think itll take more than 1 week with help
The idea would be cool
Q is make make only 1 ships or be able to produce the same ship like u make the others ?

Kal · 4 Dec 2004, 10:36

s week is a lot of our coding time.... spinner is only part time remember

Rc mayhem · 5 Dec 2004, 02:23

sounds great

would stop predictable battlesas you cant calc what you dont know. however i can see this meaning the game becomes stagnent as noone will attack as they are too afriad the modified ship would be too good

Phil^ · 5 Dec 2004, 02:41

it`d mean a larger database though ( longer db backups ) , and the combat engine wouldnt be happy i dont think ( longer ticks ). instead of calculating damage shiptype wise as it does now. it would need to look up the damage and armour values of every single ship in every single fleet that every single planet sent - thats a lot of database lookups, per combat. large battles with lots of planets, lots of fleets and lots of ships would really really make the server cry

, not to mention there are at any one point several combats going on at once that the server would need to do the same on.

i cant *really* see this idea happening myself, certainly not in time for r13 tbh.
Still, its intriguing.

Gerbie · 5 Dec 2004, 08:24

The skill of the game is not to send shitloads of ships to vaporize whatever the opposition might have. It's about looking for weaknesses and using those. Knowing that we'd need a scan that can spot exactly what the opposition's ships do. Then it would reward players that are best at their thing.

agincourt · 5 Dec 2004, 08:34

"The skill of the game is not to send shitloads of ships to vaporize whatever the opposition might have. It's about looking for weaknesses and using those."
Well Gerbie I think that it takes skill to be one of the ones that has the "shitload of ships" first. Besides some races are built around the "Shitload of ships" strategy (xan for sure).
I don't know if I like the idea of a custom ship but maybe throwing in a research ability to lower init or icrease armor or attack strength would be nice. Of course that would unbalance races even further (due to inherent research abilities). Just a thought...

Proxi · 5 Dec 2004, 11:37

Wouldnt this mean that certain races would be able to plug holes in their weaknesses, and possibly make them a bit too good?

For example, if a cath designed a ship with a low init that could pwn DE and use it instead of a defender than thats one of his weaknesses plugged. Isnt it possible that this idea could make balancing the stats a good deal harder than it already is?

KarnivOre · 5 Dec 2004, 12:33

bad idea

makes the game far too complex and i can guarantee that it will be abused.

and done when u sign up? new players will not have a clue what they are doing and therefore it will only serve to strengthen the older and wiser players, who frankly dont need any help!

stats should not be tampered with, it is too abusable, but please, none of this "zik ships subvert before emp shoots" rubbish next round, and make beetles better!!!!!!

oh yeh, scorps and roaches PWN

Thermodynamics · 6 Dec 2004, 18:17

Nice idea. But to implement this would mean the abolition of races, how could the "rock,paper scissors" ethos be continued?

And battle calcs! Oh do we all love them??? What would they do? And if you unit scan, how are you supposed to know how the stats of each ship?

Kal · 17 Jan 2005, 00:45

I think although this is a nice idea it cuase a lot of practical problems from a code, and server load point of view and has some negative game play implications - declined