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Unread 30 Jan 2006, 19:08   #1
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What can they do?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/m...er/4662778.stm

Basically the kid raped 4 kids aged 7-10. He is 14.

Now I would suggest that you cant put this person in a juvinile prison. Instead he needs help and serious help. But what could you do. He clearly has something wrong in his head, I dont think prison would address the issue.

From the looks of it they are looking at sending him to a hospital or something

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But is there anything to help this kid?
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Unread 30 Jan 2006, 19:18   #2
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Re: What can they do?

shooting him would be the best solution allround, but people have stupid ideas about being a 'humane' society.
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Re: What can they do?

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But is there anything to help this kid?
Possibly not, although I'd imagine the doctors / social workers involved would be in a better position to say. Generally, short of following Nod's suggestion we are left with very options. Of these options the "best" is probably some form of counselling / rehabilitation program although I've no idea of the success rate of such things.

Ignoring his individual case, we might want to examine the causes of such behaviour to see if we could avoid such a thing happening again (easier said than done).
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Re: What can they do?

I say put him in a daycare with little kids so he can "learn about why he shouldn't do what he did."
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Re: What can they do?

Pump him full of hallucinogens and study him...
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Re: What can they do?

Social Services should maybe take a look at any siblings this child has, as theres a distinct possibility hes from a very disturbed home.

Bet they dont though.
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Re: What can they do?

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Social Services should maybe take a look at any siblings this child has, as theres a distinct possibility hes from a very disturbed home.

Bet they dont though.
given that you constantly accuse me of assuming that I am more intelligent than everyone else, do you really think it is wise/prudent/rational (or has any justification at all) for you to pretend that you know more about what to do in this situation than social services, and by implication, the entire British government?

to say "Bet they won't though".

It does betray a certain magnitude of arrogance from a bank worker (not denegrating you, but is what you are isn't it?). It's not exactly your field of expertise now is it?

When I calmly tell you that you are wrong on the law. You may well rant and accuse me of arrogance, but at least I do know what I am talking about.

It's not your arrogance. One expects that. It is your inherent negativity. I mean you don't know do you? So why be so quick to damn and judge?
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Re: What can they do?

cutting his balls off would do the trick
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Re: What can they do?

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well he wont be raping anyone else without them now will he? :P
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Re: What can they do?

your fingers, fist, foot, head, tongue...need i go on?
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Re: What can they do?

chemical castration may be more humane.

I expect the boy will be sectioned piglet. He'll most likely then recieve a combination of counselling, re-education and drug treatment. In cases such as this everyone is a victim, even the defendant.
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Re: What can they do?

i think its more that you dont actually have the desire to do anything to do with sex when you have had your balls cut off.

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Castration significantly deceases testosterone levels, which is believed to have some effect on aggressive behavior and libido.

Allowing the state to perform actions which can directly alter the behavior of individuals is scary though; shooting him would be far safer.

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Re: What can they do?

You cant do that though as you say

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Allowing the state to perform actions which can directly alter the behavior of individuals is scary though; shooting him would be far safer.
oh yes that's consistent ...
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Re: What can they do?

Why can't we deport people anymore? It's cheap, it's humane, it's effective. I'm not sure where people got the idea that in order to be a proper criminal justice system, life has to be made worse for everyone.

Anyway, if I was found guilty of something and castrated as punishment, I would become a violent serial rapist out of spite. And a very successful one at that, if only in terms of prolificity and not reproductivity.
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Its perfectly consistent. Its akin to the difference between punishment and rehabilitation in the prison system. The former is honest old-fashioned revenge, while the latter consists of brainwashing and other forms of behavior modification.
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Re: What can they do?

Shooting someone tends to drastically alter their behavior pattern.
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Daycare Redevelopment, I Say!
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