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Unread 12 Apr 2008, 22:41   #1
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1up Vs eXilition

hey guys, who is better?
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Re: 1up Vs eXilition

VS without a doubt.
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Re: 1up Vs eXilition

the two biggest alliances of PAX, and this is the best thread you can come up with?


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Re: 1up Vs eXilition

why is this been brought up again? Same debates all the time. which was better legion/fury. Which was better exi/1up. Who cares? I think we have done these debates to death. And why is this been brought up now when neither now exists? Might call me a grump but just dont see the humour or logic within it.
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The "humour" (if you want to call it that) was that somebody mentioned in another thread how dead AD was, and somebody else suggested doing a post about exi/1up.

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Re: 1up Vs eXilition

Whine whine.
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Re: 1up Vs eXilition

Yeah anyway, back on topic. I always dreaded Exi incs because even if you got a wave covered, they just recalled and resent all night. Whereas I never thought 1up were so good in that respect. R18 in particular I did wonder if they ever ran out of fleet slots because I never got through on attack and rarely got my incs covered when one of their guys resent an attack. I dont think I would have been alone in feeling that :P 1up although a handful, there wasn't quite the same feeling if you got incs from them.
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Re: 1up Vs eXilition

well you also mustn't forget to factor in the fact that eXi all used VNC and wallhacks...
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Re: 1up Vs eXilition

eXi def. but i think 1up is the hardest working alliance ive ever seen...although i wasnt there for the days of legion/fury
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Re: 1up Vs eXilition

I think this thread is about 7 rounds too late or something...

On Topic: eXi, caus they never got beaten
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Re: 1up Vs eXilition

Maybe they never lost because their opponents were all shit.

In fact, a case can be made for that being a reason why 1up is better. Until you see an alliance lose, you'll have a very hard time telling whether or not it's any good. eXi was good while it was winning. We haven't seen them perform as the underdog.
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Re: 1up Vs eXilition

eXilition, without a doubt.

they simply dominated by pure military might and tactics, 1up controlled by fear...but i guess fear doesn't work on opposition who isn't scared of you
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Re: 1up Vs eXilition

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In fact, a case can be made for that being a reason why 1up is better. Until you see an alliance lose, you'll have a very hard time telling whether or not it's any good. eXi was good while it was winning. We haven't seen them perform as the underdog.
If 1up was a better alliance than eXi why did they lose every time they went up against eachother?
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I'm not saying 1up is better than eXi. I'm fairly clueless in that respect (in before "not only in that respect"), since I only started playing PA during r15.
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It's not a popularity contest guys, it's a discussion. (Actually it's a troll but why not let it be a discussion!)
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eXi. Having been in both, eXi just demanded that little bit more effort which made all the difference.
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round 13 anyone?

Anyway, eXilition.
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Re: 1up Vs eXilition

yes yes, we can talk all we want about which one is better, we've been doing it for 15 rounds or so; but, how about which one is worse?

exi had evhul vnc's, but 1up constantly took in reputed cheaters of the elviz sort.


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elviz finds a new alliance willing to ignore his past every round, 1up is not unique in that respect.
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elviz is such a nice and lovely guy though <3

oh, and he has a 0% -being closed ratio- while bping with me!
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I would have loved to see 1up at their best (r11-12) fight with Exi.

1up was probably at their peak in r11 coming fresh after a long break for Syn_sid.

Exi beat the crap out of 1up in all the rounds they met, but already in r13 when they clashed the first time, 1up was nowhere near what they were in
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I have been in both alliances and the feeling was similar in both. Some call it arrogance, but I just think that players in those alliances rested in the knowledge that they were above average players.

From the proven track record, I would have to say exi, but I would still have loved to see them clash in r11.
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and eXi actually giving the dominant alliance a run for the money didnt bring anything to the game?
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and eXi actually giving the dominant alliance a run for the money didnt bring anything to the game?
Not really when it forced a return to old pathways.

I don't think anyone needs guess who I vote for.

The "1up" brand is currently doing the rounds of the WoW TCG UK community, we even hand out badges for our defeats and such.
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this debate is pointless really because as far as im concerned, the only decent alliance out there, and the only alliance that deserves a mention on PA boards is ascendancy.
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Not really when it forced a return to old pathways.
Ye, cause the 2 rounds 1up played before eXi came were so fking fun...

never heard anyone but those in 1up say anything positive about those rounds.
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Because 1up has Sid as a leader (serious answer by the way)
Sid was a part of 1up. You can't say "1up would have been better than eXi if Sid hadn't been in charge", because without Sid, there would have been no 1up. We can only look at the two alliances as they were and judge them based on that. Ignoring some parts of either alliance just so you can proclaim a winner more suited to your preference is nothing short of deluding yourself.
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Sid was a part of 1up. You can't say "1up would have been better than eXi if Sid hadn't been in charge", because without Sid, there would have been no 1up. We can only look at the two alliances as they were and judge them based on that. Ignoring some parts of either alliance just so you can proclaim a winner more suited to your preference is nothing short of deluding yourself.
I didn't say that 1up would have been better than eXi without Sid. I was answering the reason that I felt 1up lost to eXi, and in my opinion it was because Sid was the leader, and unwilling to take 1up in the direction it needed to go in order to fight against eXi. It was his preference as the alliance founder to do that.

But on the flip side, I also believe that having Sid as a leader made 1up a better run alliance than any other.
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I think he's getting at the whole "Sid refused to start block wars in order to beat eXi" argument :/
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I didn't say that 1up would have been better than eXi without Sid. I was answering the reason that I felt 1up lost to eXi, and in my opinion it was because Sid was the leader, and unwilling to take 1up in the direction it needed to go in order to fight against eXi. It was his preference as the alliance founder to do that.

But on the flip side, I also believe that having Sid as a leader made 1up a better run alliance than any other.
Ok, in that case I apologize. I thought you were trying to say 1up was better, instead of clarifying why it wasn't.

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I think he's getting at the whole "Sid refused to start block wars in order to beat eXi" argument :/
Also the argument that Sid would frequently turn up 2/3 days before round starts when politics hand already been shaped in some form or another.
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I have no idea who eXilition are therefore 1up, by a long shot.
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I have no idea who eXilition are therefore 1up, by a long shot.
been a while hasnt it?
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Stoom has only been hc of one of these alliances...

So eXilition without a doubt (or the r13/15 exi at least).
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Bunch of scrubs we slapped about pre PA X no doubt.

1up R11 by a country mile, a lot of the ex Fury lot who had come out retirement for one last round to help Sid establish the alliance quit at the end. Desse hit the nail on the head I think
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I'd probably say 1up at their best would have beaten exilition at their best 1 on 1. I usually favour that which preceded the other though. I mean you forget about it now but people used to live planetarion around r4-7 time.
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