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Unread 19 Mar 2009, 19:50   #1
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ARE YOU BLIND?

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ARE YOU BLIND

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Re: Are YOU blind?

I don't understand why people in DLR seem to want to keep provoking people in Ascendancy. Aside from that, an O.P. with just a link to sandmans and 0 associated commentary is spam. It's almost like CBA has a Tourettes twitch when he's in danger of making 3 non shit posts in a row.
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im curious what was the intention of your original post CBA ?
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Re: Are YOU blind?

14 days left, assuming no more rollbacks. Ascendancy aren't dominating anything right now and we won't before the end. No-one will because the balance has been too even for too long. So, CBA, what you are trying to imply isn't at all likely although I have no doubt the Zoro's of the internet, who also can't seem to correctly and logically extend Sandmans graphs, will agree with you. If only you guys were right, we'd have won weeks ago.

The problem here is that you always have something to say, even when you really don't.
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Re: Are YOU blind?

You have to feel sorry for anyone non-ascendancy posting on these forums heh
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I'll refrain from continuous posting now However I think the other PA players shall see my point
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Re: Are YOU blind?

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You have to feel sorry for anyone non-ascendancy posting on these forums heh
Another way of looking at that is that without us bothering to answer him CBA would be talking to himself because no-one else would care enough to point out he was being dumb. Again. In fact I imagine CBA made this post in the way he did to draw out the reaction that he got. If he honestly thought Ascendancy would at some point have the spare time to take away his alliances Top Planet and Galaxy rankings he would be quiet as a churchmouse right now. But he doesn't think that, it's just another annoying troll thread with more fine examples of our characteristic over-reaction.
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You have to feel sorry for anyone non-ascendancy posting on these forums heh
nah, overall I find the posters to be pretty decent. Might be that I dont give a flying **** about what other think about my posts, but me not being asc surely wont stop me posting here, or affect my posting here
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which is to keep the spotlight away from your gal amirite?
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Another way of looking at that is that without us bothering to answer him CBA would be talking to himself because no-one else would care enough to point out he was being dumb. Again. In fact I imagine CBA made this post in the way he did to draw out the reaction that he got. If he honestly thought Ascendancy would at some point have the spare time to take away his alliances Top Planet and Galaxy rankings he would be quiet as a churchmouse right now. But he doesn't think that, it's just another annoying troll thread with more fine examples of our characteristic over-reaction.
tbh, CBA is just pointing out the obvious.

Asc are winning atm, and will win easy unless ND, for once, do something.
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I could defeat the entire ascendancy forum squad with a single word...
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Re: Are YOU blind?

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Nice, bring the whole Ascendancy troll squad. But at the end of the day, Ascendancy are near dominating, cruising into positions that will ruin the end of this round for everyone... Ascendancy getting far to big..Ascendancy need hitting now, or complete and utter dominance will occur.
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tbh, CBA is just pointing out the obvious.

Asc are winning atm, and will win easy unless ND, for once, do something.
It's pretty obvious to me you guys aren't saying the same thing at all. CBA doesn't care who wins and that doesn't motivate his posts. Attention seeking does, hence his being way over the top.
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It's pretty obvious to me you guys aren't saying the same thing at all. CBA doesn't care who wins and that doesn't motivate his posts. Attention seeking does, hence his being way over the top.
u might be right, I ve long since stopped reading his posts.
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Can I change my word to "Virgins" ?
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Worried people are going to hit DLR for roids and XP instead of grinding their faces on our defense?
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In fairness to DLR I've seen them hit quite a few big alliance planets, in CT in particular. To be honest when your bash limit is that high your options are going to be a tad limited!
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This is an interesting post, and something I've thought about at length. If this was a round where alliance score wasn't measured in game, Ascendancy would have won already most likely. Unfortunately, we're not in round 3, so we have some score to make up.
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This is an interesting post, and something I've thought about at length. If this was a round where alliance score wasn't measured in game, Ascendancy would have won already most likely. Unfortunately, we're not in round 3, so we have some score to make up.
I m not a fan of hardcoded ingame alliances, but when we first have it, I spose it will be the used ranking system.

like u said though, sadly.
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Never seen so many posts be edited with out saying who edited them or disapear so quickly.

This forum truly is nothing more than a ASC PR tool. No wonder no one posts here any more.

I hope the new owners pay attension to the drop off in posts and can draw the natural conclusion as to why.
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Never seen so many posts be edited with out saying who edited them or disapear so quickly.

This forum truly is nothing more than a ASC PR tool. No wonder no one posts here any more.

I hope the new owners pay attension to the drop off in posts and can draw the natural conclusion as to why.
I deleted them. 4 users got banned, 3 of them Ascendancy, the other is pretty obvious. Make your own judgments from that.

As for the volume of Ascendancy posts, I can't do anything unless they are talking together and doing it deliberately. I have asked them to limit their posting directly, through posting myself on the Asc blog. I'm trying to do the best I can to solve this problem, but it's proving to be very difficult. The simple reality is that Ascendancy have a large number of posters who want to post on AD, far more than any other alliance. It seems silly to penalise people for their alliance if they aren't coordinating their posts to outspam the opposition (which they aren't).
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Never seen so many posts be edited with out saying who edited them or disapear so quickly.

This forum truly is nothing more than a ASC PR tool. No wonder no one posts here any more.

I hope the new owners pay attension to the drop off in posts and can draw the natural conclusion as to why.
In your opinion how should this be dealt with?

It seems ascendancy has a large proportion of the posters on AD, you can't blame THEM for that.

Whilst i agree that sometimes arguments can be overpowered due to the weight of ascendancy posters it's not their fault. We should all be pro-active in encouraging our friends/ally companions to get involved in the discussions on here and get some interesting debates ongoing.

I personally have found the moderating of lokken to be very fair from what i have viewed recently but suggest if others have a different opinion they should report it accordingly?

Again, i would like to see more people other than asc involved on AD, heres hoping!
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Both myself and lokken have asked ascendancy posters to refrain from posting in such mass on AD. Although I'm no longer a mod, and I don't like to think of myself as a HC either, I would still like to see an interesting and vibrant Alliance Discussions forum as well as ascendancy representing themselves well. This doesn't happen when one side consists of 1/2 posters and the other consists of a truckload, regardless of which side is actually more correct or whatever. Unfortunately we really do seem to recruit a lot of AD posters (if you actually add up the number who have been ascendancy at some point as well it's a pretty ****ing huge number). Fair solutions on a postcard plz!
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The problem is that people are too stupid to realise that if folk don't use something avaliabe to them, they can't call foul play when someone else does.

I think alot of people need to get a grip
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I don't think there is an answer, what I imagine (and i could be wrong) is that your average Joe alliance player is somewhat daunted by posting here in fear of being shot down in flames by the regular posters on AD. The new guy doesn't want to look like a fool? Maybe it's why PA doesn't attract many new players if they read AD first?

My impressions of AD is that there are far more accomplished players, far more game knowledge of the game and far more intelligent people than I but if i have an opinion i will post it, i guess others are less confident and more inhibited?

I fully intend to start playing next round and i also fully intend to become a regular poster regardless of which side of the fence i sit. Hopefully if Petes plans come to fruition a renewed playerbase will also provide some new blood on here and maybe in some way produce a more balanced perspective in posting.
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why is this even an issue? i see people making the same complaint about asc posters all the time and it doesnt make sense to me.

if you are reluctant to post your opinion on AD because you think someone is going to contest it, than you have no business on a forum in the first place. there are outrageous threads on AD every day talking about how asc is going to win, or how asc is going to lose, but when actual ascendancy players make their replies its seen as some unfair gangbang to the original poster

if you think there's an unfair imbalance with the "political parties" posting on here, blame your own alliance members for not caring enough to make a forums account
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why is this even an issue? i see people making the same complaint about asc posters all the time and it doesnt make sense to me.

if you are reluctant to post your opinion on AD because you think someone is going to contest it, than you have no business on a forum in the first place. there are outrageous threads on AD every day talking about how asc is going to win, or how asc is going to lose, but when actual ascendancy players make their replies its seen as some unfair gangbang to the original poster

if you think there's an unfair imbalance with the "political parties" posting on here, blame your own alliance members for not caring enough to make a forums account
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The problem is it's unhealthily one sided. Not in terms of the arguments being presented (I don't care about that) but in terms of the volumes of posts. This doesn't make for healthy debate if you're shouted down from all quarters.
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ascendancy should have this in the bag! oh what fun this is!
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Oh noes!! ascendancy might call me names i'm never posting again

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It'd be better if there was a way to encourage other alliance peons to post rather than banning Ascendancy posters.

That said, I think irreversible damage was done when HCs started banning their members from posting however many rounds/years ago.
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Yeah i remember the old ally flaming wars we used to have in the old days
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14 days left, assuming no more rollbacks. Ascendancy aren't dominating anything right now and we won't before the end. No-one will because the balance has been too even for too long. So, CBA, what you are trying to imply isn't at all likely although I have no doubt the Zoro's of the internet, who also can't seem to correctly and logically extend Sandmans graphs, will agree with you. If only you guys were right, we'd have won weeks ago.

The problem here is that you always have something to say, even when you really don't.

It aint even and you know it.
It would have been impossible for you to have won weeks ago cos at that time ASC was being beaten up. BUT when I realised everyone was going to stop I knew it was too soon. It gave Ascendancy more than 4 weeks to come back without much to stop you.
In the last 2 weeks your roid balance is about plus 70k while all other alliances have stalled.
I said 2 weeks ago when Ascendancy was 30k roids behind that they would win and I stand by that comment.

It doesn't have to be the case but it would need a major shift in alliance thinking to stop ASC now.

If all the major alliances from this day til the end attack ASC not only would it be a great end to what has been an interesting round but it would also put who is going to win back up in the air.
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Do you know if that is being organized at the moment or not?
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don´t understand all the fuzz
and all the finger pointing

ppl in alliance A says alliance B need to attack Asc or Asc will win
and if alliance B attacks asc we(alliance A) will attack Asc also
then alliance B says why should we hit Asc if alliance C doesnt
ofc Alliance C points fingers at Alliance A which dont attack cause Alliance B doesnt, so alliance C won´t and then the finger pointing starts at alliance A again
sorry if i missed alliance D and E
in the middle CBA posting (who sits in alliance F and is only worried about his own gal)

serioussly, no one will do anything, face it and stop the lame forum posting (so i can stop also)

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just all hit Asc together and let ND take the easy, undeserved(just my opinion!!! just mine!!), win!!

never thought i say it, but : Asc deserves this win heh :P
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Did someone just mention that the current rank 3 alliance is causing stagnation, with 2 weeks left to go?

I'd agree, the level of stagnation atm is ruining everyone's round... I too fear complete and utter dominance!
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Why did i even bother

Edit: Make me ND+CT+VGN+Omen HC now, and i will deliver the round win from Asc.
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Ive had an ego all my life D:

Perhaps my parents went a little overboard with all that positive reinforcement D:, then again, perhaps i actually am that fkng good..... :P
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would it help balance it out if some asc just started flaming the shit out of other asc? Im sure theres a handful of us that would have no problem with that.
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lol @ asc running away with the win again.
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ARE YOU BLIND?



Really, what win? If you have been reading sandmans for the last few days and the forums you and I both know that isn't 'in the pocket'.

Although Ascendancy does have a large chunk of Ministry in them, making them truely elite, we have by no means won.
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Really, what win? If you have been reading sandmans for the last few days and the forums you and I both know that isn't 'in the pocket'.

Although Ascendancy does have a large chunk of Ministry in them, making them truely elite, we have by no means won.


blind when he says asc are "running" away with it? yes, that's flawed. Asc have actually had to fight for this one,since pt72 until now and probably the end. unlike any of the other rounds when a couple weeks of good dc'ing and couple more of good attacking got them the round.

but blind when he means that asc will win? no!
you would have to be blind NOT to see it. everything is going in that dirrection as things are right now, why won't you just stop talking bs please!
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blind when he says asc are "running" away with it? yes, that's flawed. Asc have actually had to fight for this one,since pt72 until now and probably the end. unlike any of the other rounds when a couple weeks of good dc'ing and couple more of good attacking got them the round.

but blind when he means that asc will win? no!
you would have to be blind NOT to see it. everything is going in that dirrection as things are right now, why won't you just stop talking bs please!
The numbers, as has been said before, are saying quite other things.
I think it is a huge compliment people are making everywhere but they are overestimating Ascendancy and hugely downplaying ND's chances.
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Re: Are YOU blind?

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Originally Posted by Knight Theamion View Post
The numbers, as has been said before, are saying quite other things.
I think it is a huge compliment people are making everywhere but they are overestimating Ascendancy and hugely downplaying ND's chances.
Lol, overestimating Asc? downplaying ND?
Even though im not playing this round, or got any insight on it at all except stats from sandman.
Asc got a ~30k roid lead on ND, and got the experince and determination to win this round, after won almost every round previous to this one. Asc is running away with the run win, because in my opinion, they are way more determinated than both ND and CT compined together. Another factor is aswell that they have built up a MASSIVE roid lead.
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