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23 May 2003, 02:53
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Klaatu barada nikto
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Tactical Discussions?
Tactical Discussions
Discuss everything strategical about Planetarion.
Shouldn't that be: `Discuss everything tactical about Planetarion`?
I realize this may be off topic for this forum; but then again--who else cares?
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23 May 2003, 02:57
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Ngisne
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Must feel good to have a forum named after you, Tacticus.
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23 May 2003, 03:13
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ostensibly Obscure oddity
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ahhh...but then it would need to be Tacti tal Discussions...wouldn't it?
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23 May 2003, 03:50
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The Twilight of the Gods
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To be honest, I don't see why the name was changed, as strategy refers to longterm goals and methods, while tactics are short term, one off, decisions.
I trust this forum will be about what is the ideal fleet to send to a target.
ie. a glorified battlecalc.
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23 May 2003, 03:54
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Retired
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It's rarely productuve to have non-players messing about with Planetarion-based forum areas.
Can anyone say "split the boards".
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23 May 2003, 03:58
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wasted
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I assume that the name change is merely a cosmetic one and not intended to imply that the subject matter of the forums has been changed. Adding the word 'discussions' does make the forum appear more consistent with 'Planetarion Discussions', 'Alliance Discussions' and 'General Discussions', though why 'Strategy' was replaced with 'Tactical' is beyond me.
Planetarion is mostly a game of tactics rather than strategy though, so the name seems appropriate enough.
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23 May 2003, 04:01
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The Twilight of the Gods
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Whether tactics are strategy are more important, I feel, is a moot point; you can't discuss tactics very well (without resorting to individual fleet comparisons, as I said in my earlier post), whereas you can have discussions on, say, overall Zik strategies for the round, or the best way to roid with Cath.
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23 May 2003, 04:17
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wasted
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In truth, neither description fits.
"Should I choose Terran?" is a strategic question. "Pegasus/Wyvern combos work well" is a statement about tactics. Both are valid topics of discussion here, so neither name completely describes what is discussed.
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23 May 2003, 04:21
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Klaatu barada nikto
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Quote:
Originally posted by MrL_JaKiri
To be honest, I don't see why the name was changed
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I'm sure it was changed for the usual reason (forum admins demonstrating the absolute and arbitrary nature of their power). I was mostly just commenting on the fact that they did the usual half-assed job of it by neglecting to update the description to match the new name.
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I trust this forum will be about what is the ideal fleet to send to a target.
ie. a glorified battlecalc.
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Certainly by now someone must have a battlecalc that does that automatically?
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23 May 2003, 04:21
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The Twilight of the Gods
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I prefer strategy, as tactical decisions tend to be contained much better.
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23 May 2003, 04:23
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The Twilight of the Gods
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Quote:
Originally posted by Tactitus
Certainly by now someone must have a battlecalc that does that automatically?
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I was writing one towards the end of r4, didn't bother to finish it before the round stopped, missed r5, and couldn't be bothered to put the new races in.
Linear programming algorithm anyone?
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On second thoughts, the linear programming algorithm only worked for a round like r4, where fleet compositions were simple. There's too many combinations to do that now, you'd probably have to have some kind of iterative thingymabob.
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23 May 2003, 08:34
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Ensign
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R4 automation: some pods + as much phoenix as possible to get max cap. Not much of a challenge to code eh?
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23 May 2003, 09:39
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Ark-miner wannabe
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oh yay, they take time to make non-needed changes to the boards, and im still not getting any fricken mails when someone replies ;\
Good thing i tried to use helpdesk,
JJ says: they're looking in to it.
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23 May 2003, 13:46
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Commodore
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hmm, i like the name Strategy for this forum still though :\.
btw is it still #strategy or is it now #tactical or #tacdiscussion etc?
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23 May 2003, 13:47
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m u p p e t
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Quote:
Originally posted by Ultimate Newbie
hmm, i like the name Strategy for this forum still though :\.
btw is it still #strategy or is it now #tactical or #tacdiscussion etc?
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23 May 2003, 13:49
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The Twilight of the Gods
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It's not our fault if the mails aren't sending, and there is actually nothing we can do about it apart from telling Jolt, as things stand.
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23 May 2003, 15:03
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Käptn Karacho
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is this the right moment to point out that
NOONE TOLD ME FS !!!1122
...well?
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23 May 2003, 17:23
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Get used to it c0w, such is the 'way' of things when you're in the system.
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23 May 2003, 18:57
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Banned
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Quote:
Originally posted by Cochese
Get used to it c0w, such is the 'way' of things when you're in the system.
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Don't worry, once I get back in I'll keep that ****er JJ in line if he knows what's good for him. Anyhow it's hardly a change of content, and as Rob pointed out was probably done for cosmetic reasons.
PS I don't know if this ever happened but before I quit as AD mod i recommended sitting down and revamping the PA concerned section of the boards. As much as one recognises that the merging of all the previous "planetarion related" boards into one was good my actual suggestion still hasn't been implemented.
PPS (Planetarion) Military discussions as a name to include all aspects?
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23 May 2003, 19:37
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home wrecker
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the thing that most interests me is not the new name , but the vehement fashion in which the change is argued.
but is that becasue
A we're all so bored
or
B we're so stuck in our ways we abhore change.
(ps, you'll all say A but think B)
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23 May 2003, 20:03
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Retired
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B, without hesitation.
It'd be nice to know just why the name was changed (since it suited the forum quite well since it's inception), ie, the reasoning behind it.
Poor Strategy folks never hurt anyone, leave us be
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23 May 2003, 23:33
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Quote:
Originally posted by Cochese
B, without hesitation.
It'd be nice to know just why the name was changed (since it suited the forum quite well since it's inception), ie, the reasoning behind it.
Poor Strategy folks never hurt anyone, leave us be
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honest reasoning
we wanted it to have a better more official sounding name
and that the first thing that lept into my head
JJ agreed
hence it happened..
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23 May 2003, 23:39
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Retired
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Thanks for clearing that up.
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24 May 2003, 00:55
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Dum Di Dum Di
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A or B?
'B'
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30 May 2003, 12:08
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Commodore
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Quote:
Originally posted by _o0o_
ahhh...but then it would need to be Tactital Discussions...wouldn't it?
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i'd be absolutely in favour of naming it after tactitus
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