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Unread 16 Sep 2007, 05:25   #1
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What Happened Vengeance?

You guys were in the #1 spot with 70 Members 2 days ago. Now today you have dropped another 4 members and fallen to 2nd.
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Unread 16 Sep 2007, 09:40   #2
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Re: What Happened Vengeance?

a "certain" group of players left after one of them got kicked.
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Unread 16 Sep 2007, 10:04   #3
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gosu ftw :P
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Unread 16 Sep 2007, 12:39   #4
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Re: What Happened Vengeance?

hahaha, you know they were waiting for any opportunity to join exi anyway
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Re: What Happened Vengeance?

And how do you know a certain group of players werent leaving to have a proper war with Exi and give themselves a shot at winning?
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Re: What Happened Vengeance?

because Gosu don't do war, they only do fence.
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Unread 16 Sep 2007, 17:43   #7
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Re: What Happened Vengeance?

Dont mock the Gosu
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Re: What Happened Vengeance?

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And how do you know a certain group of players werent leaving to have a proper war with Exi and give themselves a shot at winning?
i only told you what they told me, if their are any other reasons i dont really care.
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Re: What Happened Vengeance?

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because Gosu don't do war, they only do fence.
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Re: What Happened Vengeance?

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And how do you know a certain group of players werent leaving to have a proper war with Exi and give themselves a shot at winning?
then they could've stayed in VgN as they ain't exactly friendly towards eXi
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Re: What Happened Vengeance?

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because Gosu don't do war, they only do fence.
Saying that...does anyone actually do war any more??
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not much, just Forest now and then
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Unread 17 Sep 2007, 02:07   #13
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Re: What Happened Vengeance?

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because Gosu don't do war, they only do fence.
I thought they only cheated.

Clearly I was wrong, and I thank Kila for correcting me
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Re: What Happened Vengeance?

Oh, the envy, very sweet ...

gôsu - we do teh fence

oh and on a side note, leaving vgn is fencesitting i guess?
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Unread 17 Sep 2007, 12:23   #15
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Re: What Happened Vengeance?

gôsu will just stand to each other, no matter what happens.

I'd def gôsu against my own ally, too - and everyone knows that.

That's why my alliance doesnt hit gôsu and why we work together so closely.

And it also explains why "those gôsu" left after FeNiX got kicked and are now playing with an alliance, that supports them.

They would have joined VS at the start but tbh noone expected VS to do that well.
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Unread 17 Sep 2007, 12:55   #16
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Re: What Happened Vengeance?

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gôsu will just stand to each other, no matter what happens.
I'd def gôsu against my own ally, too - and everyone knows that.
That's why my alliance doesnt hit gôsu and why we work together so closely.
Everybody knows that. Also, everybody knows that gosu split themselves among different alliances so that they can get protection from all of them.

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And it also explains why "those gôsu" left after FeNiX got kicked and are now playing with an alliance, that supports them.

They would have joined VS at the start but tbh noone expected VS to do that well.
Just out of curiosity, why would have Fenix got kicked? I would bet on a pnap with eX, but i may be wrong, so someone plz tell me
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Re: What Happened Vengeance?

From what I heard (And this is purely hearsay) he defended against his own alliance more than once.
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Unread 17 Sep 2007, 13:09   #18
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Re: What Happened Vengeance?

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From what I heard (And this is purely hearsay) he defended against his own alliance more than once.
Yep.

Defending gôsu-s ingal.
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Unread 17 Sep 2007, 13:26   #19
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Yep.

Defending gôsu-s ingal.
And out of gal...
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Re: What Happened Vengeance?

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Everybody knows that. Also, everybody knows that gosu split themselves among different alliances so that they can get protection from all of them.
I must have forgotten how the FishGal last round had noone from the CT block in the BP last round, must have been purely coincidential ... i mean, that wouldnt be a proper fence and we know better than that right?
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Unread 17 Sep 2007, 14:41   #21
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Re: What Happened Vengeance?

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And out of gal...
Oh yes. Support planets. Go go go.

Stop beeing ... you know what I mean Game.

You'd do the same if you'd have such a good RL-community on PA.
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Unread 17 Sep 2007, 15:14   #22
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Re: What Happened Vengeance?

gosu ruins their player material by bad politics and lack of attitude, same as so many others around in here... u did it in dom, u do it in here

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Oh yes. Support planets. Go go go.

Stop beeing ... you know what I mean Game.

You'd do the same if you'd have such a good RL-community on PA.
I wasn't suggesting anything of the sort Lockhead.

I was just simply pointing out that the time he got kicked was for defending Draki (eXi Gosu guy) out of galaxy, and it wasn't just confined to him defending his own BP/Galaxy.
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Oh yes. Support planets. Go go go.

Stop beeing ... you know what I mean Game.

You'd do the same if you'd have such a good RL-community on PA.
It's common knowledge that gosu plays for their planet ranks mainly. They give jack shit about alliances they are in and actually split up into different alliances to gain as much protection as possible.
So, personally, I like most of you gosu guys, but I would not really give too much about your intention of waging wars. Simply because you are just another bunch of those which rarely want fight for their rankings.
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Oh yes. Support planets. Go go go.

Stop beeing ... you know what I mean Game.

You'd do the same if you'd have such a good RL-community on PA.
Well there is a very simple solution to this:

All join the same alliance, rather than several and fence-sitting your way up the ranks
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I wasn't suggesting anything of the sort Lockhead.

I was just simply pointing out that the time he got kicked was for defending Draki (eXi Gosu guy) out of galaxy, and it wasn't just confined to him defending his own BP/Galaxy.
Thanks for that comment mate. You are understanding and supporting our slogan that gôsu > * which should by now be known by everyone.
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Unread 17 Sep 2007, 16:03   #27
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Well there is a very simple solution to this:

All join the same alliance, rather than several and fence-sitting your way up the ranks
I fully agree.
It isn't and never were my intention to split between alliances.
The round we played in VGN (with only half of us playing) we owned with VGN.
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I fully agree.
It isn't and never were my intention to split between alliances.
The round we played in VGN (with only half of us playing) we owned with VGN.
So im in alliance (A) and you're in alliance (B) and tesla is in alliance (C). we all defend each other constantly, would we not be breaching any part of the EULA? some sort of support planet rule? im not sure.

Im sure you can find some alliance stupid enough to take you all in
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I fully agree.
It isn't and never were my intention to split between alliances.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.. dude...
If you have a very tight knit community even irl as u say urself, SURELY u must be able to organize it so that ppl sign up for the same alliance.
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Re: What Happened Vengeance?

gôsu sure is teh evil - the simple answer to why we dont all join the same alli is because we dont want stagnation, and after a week there would be no more planets left to farm!

Nah seriously, the main reason for gosu to join several alliances is because we want to BP gosu only and most allies prohibit more than 2 or 3 members in the same Gal. Last round we all were in the vgn block, this round we're in the eXi block. tbh we didnt expect vgn to fight eXi ... IF we were fencesitting to the top, we wouldve kept those 4 in vgn, wouldnt we?
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Me personally have always had an obscure liking for Gôsu (apart from the name being difficult to write as i need to find that damn button to get that ^ signal above the o)

I think that bg's like Gôsu are perfectly capable to take care of themselves and I would have no problems accepting them into an alliance I was running. (But I would prefer seing them try a round as a fully fledged alliance)
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(But I would prefer seing them try a round as a fully fledged alliance)

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when hell freezes over and i see satan ice skating.. i'll check for ANY bg becomming a fully fledged alliance !

Omen have done it

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loads of examples of BGs which went on to play as full alliance.
"and failed"
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r8 LCH were a BG and went on pretty well from there....
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Interesting talk about BG's. The reason they dont become alliances is because they can just leech defence from an alliance that gets greedy and only thinks about their score potential, and the HC's overestimate their ability to control such players.

If BG's like Gosu are able to get whole alliances to conform to their wishes, good on them ;p
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that is why bg's never join top allies, or more specific gosu joining exi, because they wont be able to get away with what they want due to exi not actually needing them, and not giving a shit about them anymore than the other players they have
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that is why bg's never join top allies, or more specific gosu joining exi, because they wont be able to get away with what they want due to exi not actually needing them, and not giving a shit about them anymore than the other players they have
They still got a fair few in though...
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They still got a fair few in though...
yeah, but never will be as a whole, plus if they step out of line you pretty much would give them the boot i expect. Thats from the impression i got when i was exi etc
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gôsu will just stand to each other, no matter what happens.
I'd def gôsu against my own ally, too - and everyone knows that.
That's why my alliance doesnt hit gôsu and why we work together so closely.
You are understanding and supporting our slogan that gôsu > * which should by now be known by everyone.
Those lines plus the fact that you dont seem to play as a common alliance, but instead 'somehow' got your guys in alliances all over the place usually, gives a perfect definition of "doing teh fence".
I dont see how that is debatable at all, so why do you post that crap?
However, i do see how that is kinda gay and thats why i find your boastful tone kinda funny tbh.
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Those lines plus the fact that you dont seem to play as a common alliance, but instead 'somehow' got your guys in alliances all over the place usually, gives a perfect definition of "doing teh fence".
I dont see how that is debatable at all, so why do you post that crap?
However, i do see how that is kinda gay and thats why i find your boastful tone kinda funny tbh.
Ok, I usually do not like gôsu's methods that much. BUT in their defense: They do stand up for each other. Yes, that is a perfect battlegroup behaviour. But do not blame gôsu when alliance's take them in. Taking in gôsu is clearly the fault of the alliance.
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Those lines plus the fact that you dont seem to play as a common alliance, but instead 'somehow' got your guys in alliances all over the place usually, gives a perfect definition of "doing teh fence".
I dont see how that is debatable at all, so why do you post that crap?
However, i do see how that is kinda gay and thats why i find your boastful tone kinda funny tbh.
We got 100% of our active members in VS and eXi. Exactly how is that fencesitting? Someone tell me...
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We got 100% of our active members in VS and eXi. Exactly how is that fencesitting? Someone tell me...
Well, wasnt that way at the start was it?
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But were the blocks created pre-round?

I'm askin cause I honestly don't know.
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Blocks werent exactly created before round, but you can say some alliances had a good relationship before the round atleast..
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