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Unread 8 Jul 2003, 04:34   #1
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Why will R10 not have private galaxies?

I had planned to make a nice galaxy with a bunch of friends, I was really looking forward to it, then I find out R10 is gonna be random.

Why?!! I am seriously worried my galmates will be inactive/only play a couple hours a day or wont use IRC and it will ruin my gaming experience. Not only that but its a PAY round so surely it would make sense to allow us to form priv's.
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Unread 8 Jul 2003, 04:48   #2
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Re: Why will R10 not have private galaxies?

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I had planned to make a nice galaxy with a bunch of friends, I was really looking forward to it, then I find out R10 is gonna be random.

Why?!! I am seriously worried my galmates will be inactive/only play a couple hours a day or wont use IRC and it will ruin my gaming experience. Not only that but its a PAY round so surely it would make sense to allow us to form priv's.

I LOVE IT

everybody has the same fair chance of getting inactives in their gal.
And the best thing: All those farming and cheating cnuts wont have their friends backing them up, because my hope is there will ALWAYS be a galmember honest enuff to report him.
No hiding with twat-friends in some gal))))
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I LOVE IT

everybody has the same fair chance of getting inactives in their gal.
And the best thing: All those farming and cheating cnuts wont have their friends backing them up, because my hope is there will ALWAYS be a galmember honest enuff to report him.
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Unread 8 Jul 2003, 09:44   #6
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im still hoping we get the `go into a group with 2 of your mates`
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So we would have 15 person gals, with 3private x3, and then 6 randoms.


I dont really see much dissadvantages with that idea, so hopefully it will be used :P
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im still hoping we get the `go into a group with 2 of your mates`
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So we would have 15 person gals, with 3private x3, and then 6 randoms.


I dont really see much dissadvantages with that idea, so hopefully it will be used :P
Spinner didnt seem too keen on the idea in a CH about a month ago, but i agree.
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Unread 8 Jul 2003, 10:15   #8
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Might aswell just face it, full random blows goats.

It is so bloody unfair when one end up i a little inactive gal outisde the top250 and get battered every single day.

Ive had it twice now, and i really dont want it again.
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Re: Why will R10 not have private galaxies?

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I had planned to make a nice galaxy with a bunch of friends, I was really looking forward to it, then I find out R10 is gonna be random.

Why?!! I am seriously worried my galmates will be inactive/only play a couple hours a day or wont use IRC and it will ruin my gaming experience. Not only that but its a PAY round so surely it would make sense to allow us to form priv's.

As round 9 showed us, private gals make an excellent job ****ing a round up completely.

You may think its nice to play in a private gal with some friends, but it destroys the game.
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im still hoping we get the `go into a group with 2 of your mates`
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So we would have 15 person gals, with 3private x3, and then 6 randoms.


I dont really see much dissadvantages with that idea, so hopefully it will be used :P
A mix of random and priv will suck because of spies, its got to be full random for the most fun, you can'nt beat logging in to your random gal account that first time and seeing all the 'Hi' posts on politcs.
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A mix of random and priv will suck because of spies, its got to be full random for the most fun, you can'nt beat logging in to your random gal account that first time and seeing all the 'Hi' posts on politcs.
you stand a lower chance of spies in priv/random than in just random, its not rocket science.
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I never said you had more chance of spies I just said that spies would be more of a problem in a random/priv mix, which they would be. It aint rocket science
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ok then smartarse, explain why spies would be more of a problem, when having 2 mates means at least 1 of you should be online, so spies would have less of an effect.
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I hope there's never another private round of Planetarion ever again.
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It's really really really funny.
In r7 I heard "private suck, make the round random".
In r8 I heard "random sucks, my gal is inactive and sucks".
In r9 I heard "private sucks, fecks up the whole round".
In r9.5 I heard "random is sooo sucky, all farms/scanners/escorts blehbleh"

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It's really really really funny.

In r9.5 I heard "random is sooo sucky, all farms/scanners/escorts blehbleh"

Get a Clue.

This round you heard. "FREE is so cucky, all those farms, scanners, escorts."

It has nothing to do with the random aspect.

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Random > private, free is always nice as long as someone pays the bills. It's the cheaters that suck.

There's still much not shown about round 10. There may still be some kind of buddy system which allows reduced eta to one or two friends.
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im still hoping we get the `go into a group with 2 of your mates`
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So we would have 15 person gals, with 3private x3, and then 6 randoms.


I dont really see much dissadvantages with that idea, so hopefully it will be used :P
2 mates of different alliances ?
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Get a Clue.
I honestly hope I never will (PA-wise).

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This round you heard. "FREE is so cucky, all those farms, scanners, escorts."

It has nothing to do with the random aspect.

I never said it has something to do with random. I just stated what I heard from ppl here on AD. Tell them to get a "clue".

My point was that there always will be a lot of whining going on wether it's private or random or anything in between. Remember r8? Was a great round IMO, but everywhere I heard this "Bah - my gal is soooo crappy, r8 sucks." - exactly what I hear now plus the "multi/farm/scan/escort" thingy.

When I listen to those friends of mine who know about PA (and I am happy that most of my friends never heard about this) I get the feeling that the best rounds where those 1-4. All free. All full of cheating "scum" and multiing freaks and so on. Now your point was?
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Might aswell just face it, full random blows goats.

It is so bloody unfair
lol

erm...think you've got it wrong there
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got it wrong???


well random **** gals are just like r9 for me then, incs many times every day, getting utterly batered.


The gal i started in in r8, ended on 20mill score at the END of the round.

I used a week to get enough resources to get myself out of that hell hole and whenh i got into a decent gal i had alerady lost 2 weeks of the ruond and i had NO chance of a top 50 place.

So imo it is to an extent very unfair.

This ruond too, my gal isnt top 250, and were getting battered very badly, very often.
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2 mates of different alliances ?
with alliances being in built it makes sense that the groups of 3 are all the same alliance.
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Spinner didnt seem too keen on the idea in a CH about a month ago, but i agree.
Spinners never been keen of the idea. When I was till PATeam I would put this to him every round and he would just dismiss it
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with alliances being in built it makes sense that the groups of 3 are all the same alliance.
I'd say the opposite.

You'd want to have groups of 3 from different alliances, so they get the most benefit from the alliance travel time rather than it being wasted on people in the same galaxy.
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Re: Re: Why will R10 not have private galaxies?

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I LOVE IT

everybody has the same fair chance of getting inactives in their gal.
And the best thing: All those farming and cheating cnuts wont have their friends backing them up, because my hope is there will ALWAYS be a galmember honest enuff to report him.
No hiding with twat-friends in some gal))))
Its fair until they pay their gal mates to swap accounts. Making a virtually private gal in a random round.

Its been done before, it will be done again.... unless ofc by 'chance' 4 out of 30 DTA land in one gal again, or 5 or so out of 100 or so LDK land by 'chance' in the same gal.... again
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I'd say the opposite.

You'd want to have groups of 3 from different alliances, so they get the most benefit from the alliance travel time rather than it being wasted on people in the same galaxy.
I mean forced into being the same alliance, it also helps stop fencesitting
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with alliances being in built it makes sense that the groups of 3 are all the same alliance.

depends ????

id say the opposite tho....
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I mean forced into being the same alliance, it also helps stop fencesitting
So what you're saying is that by forcing alliances to group together in galaxies you're going to stop fence sitting?
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as opposed to the brilliant random which does the exact opposite how?
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as opposed to the brilliant random which does the exact opposite how?

you can gang up alliances with this 3 ppl ****.

in random round it "should" be at least have to do with luck.
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you can gang up alliances with this 3 ppl ****.

in random round it "should" be at least have to do with luck.
hmmmmmm, you want people to pay £10 or whatever R10 will cost, and then make them rely on luck whether they can have a decent round and still get more than 4 hours sleep a day?
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hmmmmmm, you want people to pay £10 or whatever R10 will cost, and then make them rely on luck whether they can have a decent round and still get more than 4 hours sleep a day?

there is no skill left in p.a


it is only luck and contacts
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Im sorta starting to regret having paid for r10 already.


Cuz if it is anything like this round in galsetup i predict more months of utter bashing of meh gal.
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bull****. skill isnt as visible as it used to be, but many people still have it and use it (I never said I do though )
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hmmmmmm, you want people to pay £10 or whatever R10 will cost, and then make them rely on luck whether they can have a decent round and still get more than 4 hours sleep a day?

it was done in r8 before and it was fun.

also i know a ****load of people who WOULDNT pay for a round 5, 7 or 9 agian.
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it was done in r8 before and it was fun.

also i know a ****load of people who WOULDNT pay for a round 5, 7 or 9 agian.
and I know a ****load of people who would

Seriously though, this isnt a re-run of R5, 7 or 9. This isnt private gals. This is making sure active people can still have a good time with their mates, and random people still get to go random and meet new people.
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Legator, its not like r5 r7 or r9 now is it?

its a mix of random and priv and something that should atleast be tried..

random only pleases some ppl

private only pleases some ppl

Dont dismiss mixed unless you have tried it please :\
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and I know a ****load of people who would

Seriously though, this isnt a re-run of R5, 7 or 9. This isnt private gals. This is making sure active people can still have a good time with their mates, and random people still get to go random and meet new people.

i doubt it would make the same numbers.

those rounds ****ed up the game, everyone should know it.

in random rounds its much more fair as in private rounds.

and 3 is to much for me, maybe other opinions are different. im in an inactive galaxy, very inactive. but still its fun. and for others too, its not all about getting a topplanet.
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i doubt it would make the same numbers.

those rounds ****ed up the game, everyone should know it.

in random rounds its much more fair as in private rounds.

and 3 is to much for me, maybe other opinions are different. im in an inactive galaxy, very inactive. but still its fun. and for others too, its not all about getting a topplanet.
Point taken, but a lot of people do want a top planet, and random stops them doing that, semi priv doesnt stop them, and it also keeps the random people happy, like Evil said, it hasnt been given a chance, I wish it was, maybe we'd all be kept happy then.
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Point taken, but a lot of people do want a top planet, and random stops them doing that, semi priv doesnt stop them, and it also keeps the random people happy, like Evil said, it hasnt been given a chance, I wish it was, maybe we'd all be kept happy then.
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What are the size of galaxies next round anyways? 10? 15? 25? Possible solution to the problem with decent players getting bashed could be to allow players who reach 30% above their galaxy's average score to exile into a gal with their average score. This could continue on up until you reach the top 30-50% of the galaxies.
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What are the size of galaxies next round anyways? 10? 15? 25? Possible solution to the problem with decent players getting bashed could be to allow players who reach 30% above their galaxy's average score to exile into a gal with their average score. This could continue on up until you reach the top 30-50% of the galaxies.
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It's really really really funny.
In r7 I heard "private suck, make the round random".
In r8 I heard "random sucks, my gal is inactive and sucks".
In r9 I heard "private sucks, fecks up the whole round".
In r9.5 I heard "random is sooo sucky, all farms/scanners/escorts blehbleh"

the round 9.5 excuse is not due to the round being random, but due to the fact its a free round so the (fill in a certain nationality) dont need CC to sign up a ****load:P

I so agree with scouse...random all the way and NO i have not been lucky either with gal activity so far but it sure as hell beats fighting private gals with twats who run a complete farmgalaxy also.
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Re: Re: Re: Why will R10 not have private galaxies?

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Its fair until they pay their gal mates to swap accounts. Making a virtually private gal in a random round.

Its been done before, it will be done again.... unless ofc by 'chance' 4 out of 30 DTA land in one gal again, or 5 or so out of 100 or so LDK land by 'chance' in the same gal.... again
ahh yes, wasnot it fury who invented it all?

lets face it, nobody is holier then the pope here and yes, cheating is always an option but heh kileman, i am sure you, honest player as you are, reported those guys didnot you?
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What are the size of galaxies next round anyways? 10? 15? 25? Possible solution to the problem with decent players getting bashed could be to allow players who reach 30% above their galaxy's average score to exile into a gal with their average score. This could continue on up until you reach the top 30-50% of the galaxies.
Would make it worse for new players as every half-decent player would exile himself after two days without a politics-posting. They will definitely land then (following your idea) in a better gal, making their old "newbie"-gal even worse. Would only accelerate the development into tow universes - one with 3 waves each day incomings and those who roid daily their old galaxies.

And exactly this is the only really bad thing about PA. Once in a bad position you merely can't recover unless you are lucky and get a two days rest without incs. But you once for all in that round lost your chance to play with "the big guys". So every rule that leads to make small galaxies even smaller is IMO a step in the wrong direction.
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Re: Re: Why will R10 not have private galaxies?

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I LOVE IT

everybody has the same fair chance of getting inactives in their gal.
And the best thing: All those farming and cheating cnuts wont have their friends backing them up, because my hope is there will ALWAYS be a galmember honest enuff to report him.
No hiding with twat-friends in some gal))))
Dammit there goes my idea of being in your gal and getting constant incoming
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