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rnd|One · 3 Dec 2002, 20:51

Could a representative of every alliance list their average member score and roids here for the whole memberbase. All other valid statistics welcome also.

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Alliance Info [Elysium]  
Members  Size        Score         Avg. Size  Avg. Score 
147      130,015     1,974,247,098   884      13,430,252

6 t100, 9 t250 players. Elysium community: every player contributed and sometimes those with the smallest score even the most. Overall great round alliancewise, boring playwise.

ParraCida · 3 Dec 2002, 21:03

This is the alliance page from the Titan atlas.

We ofcourse offer no full accuracy on the fury/fang/wpely average stats but the top 250 overview is pretty much confirmed.

Needless to say the Titans and LDK stats are 100% correct

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Btw I hope you all realize how ridiculous all previous 'powerblock' claims have been. 220 members in Titans and in LDK together, less the Fury has on its own. (yes Virus/DTA need to be counted as well, but Titans/LDK established itself long before either joined, besides if you go counting them I'd ask you to take a look at the ade/tot/fury/fang numbers

)

Maddix · 3 Dec 2002, 21:29

RaH stats are reasonable accurate which is a credit to Titans/LDK intel I suppose

Average score of 12.8 million is slightly higher than your page suggests but probably close enough to make the other stats a reasonable estimate.

Overall not a bad showing for one of the very few bigger alliances that did actually hold to their word and stood alone this round.

General Martok · 3 Dec 2002, 22:05

Since our site didn't get a fresh database dump in about 2 weeks (blame our inactive/DAoC-addicted site-admin

) my best guess is that TFD's average score was only around 7M, but that's with 100 members, 40 of them inactive, so the average of the really playing guys would be higher.

Still far from impressive though

Btw that list Red_guy's list is/was inaccurate and incomplete.

wubanger · 3 Dec 2002, 23:30

For what it's worth .....

Total Score: 520 mil *
Average Planet score was : 12.4 M*
Total amt of roids : 32.5k*
Average roids : 775*
EDIT: 4 ppl in the top 250 /EDIT
*Numbers rounded up to the nearest 5 ie: avg roids was 773, etc

Taking into consideration the info from the Titans page (yes I know it's not 100% accurate but as a reference base), I'd say we were performing rather well for the amt of ppl we have in comparison to the rest of the universe, and I'd like to extend a nice job done to all members. Congrats to the projected rnd 8 winners as well

Shakky · 4 Dec 2002, 02:08

nice

ta for adding us on

Auro · 4 Dec 2002, 03:10

Oi you missed our (NoS) member count by over 100! What happened

furssie · 4 Dec 2002, 04:46

43 out of 110 members is pretty impressive.

Zahadum · 4 Dec 2002, 08:27

As Military HC for Entity (yes we are apart of AULD) I'd say our average score is around 5 million for about 100 active players. I'd like to thank Newdawn and Nemesis for giving all they had this round and we did pretty well. I'd also like to thank the members in helping with defence especially, we were able to cover defence very well this round even with the galaxy bashing of you all know of. Sending huge kill fleets with 2 or 3 planets on a planet the size of 3 or 2 mil (which disgusts me). So to all of you that played fair I commend you. I hope to see some of the smart ones in eve in the upcoming months. Its time to move on, better games await.

Best Regards to the Planeration Community,
Prometheus

DJet · 4 Dec 2002, 09:20

Rock stats are abit low

hAl · 4 Dec 2002, 10:51

Seems like some alliances hardly have members anymore if you look at those stats. IPC with three members listed could probably take the award for best alliance in hiding.

To bad the pages for each individual alliance linked behind are not accessable.

hAl

TAFKAJ · 4 Dec 2002, 12:11

i see my uber1337 ally vision is there with only 10 members while we had at least 100 ........ good info uhuh

Shev · 4 Dec 2002, 12:27

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Originally posted by TAFKAJ
i see my uber1337 ally vision is there with only 10 members while we had at least 100 ........ good info uhuh

Since you are so 'uber1337' i assume you knew where every single Titans planet was yeah?

Heartshunter · 4 Dec 2002, 12:35

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Originally posted by TAFKAJ
i see my uber1337 ally vision is there with only 10 members while we had at least 100 ........ good info uhuh

(ado posting again)

I think the general formula for our stats, is that accuracy is directly proportional to importance

Kileman · 4 Dec 2002, 13:02

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Originally posted by Heartshunter
(ado posting again)

I think the general formula for our stats, is that accuracy is directly proportional to importance

Its a good thing that you didnt get the Fury/Fang/Adelante stats right then, who knows what could have happened

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How To Make A Vaporizer

Fleet_Multiplex · 4 Dec 2002, 13:04

we are missing about 50 planets aswell, including T250 ones i believe.

hAl · 4 Dec 2002, 13:16

It seems more like having a spy or two in the other alliances increases the amount of planets registered in this system. Alliances with less titans/ldk/dta spies in them will do a lot worse on these statistics.

Also LDK for instance seems to have managed to get 20 or 30 new members during this round (not uncommon for an alliance having succes). Those people might bring a lot of intel with them from their former alliance and greatly increase the amount of intell on ohter alliances. This might suggest that the losing alliances who generally lose members during a round will have been mapped out the best as they have the most former members who posses knowledge of them in other alliances.

Alliance with stable memberbase will be hard to map as they have less people giving out information and only good basis for intell is via their members gals possibly.

hAl

hAl · 4 Dec 2002, 13:18

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Originally posted by Fleet_Multiplex
we are missing about 50 planets aswell, including T250 ones i believe.

Why don't you give your list of planets (not members !) to titans then to update their intell and make it more reliable. Seems of little consequence for your allianceand make your performance look better...

hAl

Kemu · 4 Dec 2002, 13:28

KoN:

Average member of KoN
1,054 roids
14,749,958 score

Total of KoN
42,169 roids
589,998,323 score

those include some inactives, but i think all alliances have those.

10% (4) of our members in top100 and 20% (8) in top250.

I want to thank all of my dear KoN members for a GREAT round!

Ni!!!!!

Nadar · 4 Dec 2002, 13:30

that list is SO wrong...what fool made that?

he must have guessed it all

lol....billions of points is missing fs...heh

gzambo · 4 Dec 2002, 13:33

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Originally posted by DJet
Rock stats are abit low

and the understatement award goes to ...................

im just a peon this round and i know how far off the mark those stats are

to get a better picture of each alliance's members /score/ roid count why not get in touch with each alliance's HC and ask them for it the round is dead so it cant be classed as sensitive information anymore

if anyone does not want to give out that info then they are probably hiding something or are ashamed of the alliances standing

TrinTara · 4 Dec 2002, 13:34

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Originally posted by Heartshunter
(ado posting again)

I think the general formula for our stats, is that accuracy is directly proportional to importance

I'll be charitable and assume by 'importance' you mean directly proportional to the level of hostility/aggression or the perceived threat.

TAFKAJ · 4 Dec 2002, 13:41

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Originally posted by Heartshunter
(ado posting again)

I think the general formula for our stats, is that accuracy is directly proportional to importance

So u would say Vision didnt play its part this round? i think for the size of the ally vision actually did quite nice, but since we didnt participate in the Big wars between Ldk/Titans/Virus and Fury/Fang &co doesnt make us less important than any other alliance. And besides None of the above allies succeeded in getting any roids of of me

hAl · 4 Dec 2002, 13:56

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Originally posted by gzambo
and the understatement award goes to ...................

im just a peon this round and i know how far off the mark those stats are

to get a better picture of each alliance's members /score/ roid count why not get in touch with each alliance's HC and ask them for it the round is dead so it cant be classed as sensitive information anymore

if anyone does not want to give out that info then they are probably hiding something or are ashamed of the alliances standing

You should remember that TGO's 30 planets will bring down our average a lot.

hAl

gzambo · 4 Dec 2002, 13:59

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Originally posted by hAl
You should remember that TGO's 30 planets will bring down our average a lot.

hAl

did he delete the other 20 then?

Jurgen · 4 Dec 2002, 14:32

winning alliance = best average score... ok let's take a look at titan score table. (It's not correct as dragon part atleast, but it still is interesting...)

Winners
DEFECTORS (who teh phuck r those) averagescore 29004104

Runner up
MINISTRY (most impressive... good work) averagescore 26220717

Third
Titans (not bad either) averagescore 25994623

(Dragons just fourth in that list we had better average score thoz)

R8
Rank 1 gal
Dragons of destiny (ooh sounds like a name that I like ;-))

Rank orh... dunno what rank smasher was when ticks stopped top 10 for sure top 5 maybe? with no boosting nor donations.

Dragon tag Rank 2
since I didn't give it out to make it rank1 to the end of round coz didn't know ticks would stop so fast.
Still don't claim that dragons were the only true winners

Hurragutten · 4 Dec 2002, 14:39

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Originally posted by hAl
To bad the pages for each individual alliance linked behind are not accessable.

I agree, could we please get access to those pages?

Scouse · 4 Dec 2002, 15:24

In response to the morons.

We didn't care for little alliances, ones like IPC were only added as IPC when one of our members told us a gal member was part of IPC. We only concentrated on getting Fury/FAnG/Adelante. After Adelante fell apart and FAnG basically died they got a bit messed up. The members in Adelante are those that having been in Adelante were no longer hostile to us.

NoS didn't interest us much so we didn't collect their coords, but if their hostilities had grew we could have easily.

DEFECTORS are people who left hostile alliances and joined our allies. We did not protect them, so we listed them as DEFECTORS and not as the correct alliance. Any member defecting to any ally of ours (Virus/LDK/Plush) did not get Titans protection.

For all you Rock/Vision/etc alliances to say "OMG, they are so wrong" then you are overestimating your importance to us.

hAl · 4 Dec 2002, 15:38

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Originally posted by Scouse
For all you Rock/Vision/etc alliances to say "OMG, they are so wrong" then you are overestimating your importance to us.

I think you overstated your victory too much whilst we hardly care if you win or if FanG would have won. You have been acting like PA is all about winning and your little war with Fury/FanG. Like most of the universe cares. I have seen how bigger alliances play this game and have little respect for the way most players get to the top positions.

Further more I did not see much of the alliance wars cause my gal was mostly non involved but I did however see a lot of your alliances actions on these boards and can only base a decent opinion of your alliance on that and in that regard I must say you and a few of your alliance m8s have really made look titans a very poor alliance to be a part of.

hAl

Jester · 4 Dec 2002, 16:02

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Originally posted by Maddix
RaH stats are reasonable accurate which is a credit to Titans/LDK intel I suppose

lol!

Jester

Scouse · 4 Dec 2002, 16:19

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Originally posted by hAl
I think you overstated your victory too much whilst we hardly care if you win or if FanG would have won. You have been acting like PA is all about winning and your little war with Fury/FanG.

I never asked anyone neutral to care about our war, you didn't need to read these threads, and you didn't need to care at all, that was your choice. This round was all about this war for anyone part of those alliances, on the most part. PA is about having fun and when you're at war the best way to have fun is to win, since every single victory adds up.

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Further more I did not see much of the alliance wars cause my gal was mostly non involved but I did however see a lot of your alliances actions on these boards and can only base a decent opinion of your alliance on that and in that regard I must say you and a few of your alliance m8s have really made look titans a very poor alliance to be a part of.

You're welcome to your opinion, but whats said on these boards doesn't reflect what any alliance is really like. You'd only ever know that if you were part of it. Not many people have joined Titans and left. Those that do usually quit for RL and not for other alliances, except for a few, which says more than any board posts do, imo.

WebAngel · 4 Dec 2002, 16:30

Quote:

Originally posted by Scouse
In response to the morons.

We didn't care for little alliances, ones like IPC were only added as IPC when one of our members told us a gal member was part of IPC. ....

"We didnt focus on the little alliances" is more correct and it's exactly what Scouse meant here.

hAl · 4 Dec 2002, 16:40

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Originally posted by Scouse
This round was all about this war for anyone part of those alliances, on the most part.

Yup but those alliances at war were less than 10% of PA community. They were also the only alliances really that were interested in winning as noone else bother to try really. As 90% of PA community plays not to win at all but to have a fun playing the game and talking to their gaming friends the ranking is a nice sideline. LDK/titans have done well in getting so big but they were also the ones who cared to win most of all this round.

hAl

WebAngel · 4 Dec 2002, 17:24

Quote:

Originally posted by hAl
Yup but those alliances at war were less than 10% of PA community. They were also the only alliances really that were interested in winning as noone else bother to try really. As 90% of PA community plays not to win at all but to have a fun playing the game and talking to their gaming friends the ranking is a nice sideline. LDK/titans have done well in getting so big but they were also the ones who cared to win most of all this round.

hAl

That is neither fair nor correct. Our victory is elsewhere (#1 planet and #1 gal aint Titans), getting "so" big is a way to to reach our aim, not an achievement. Even if I have to admit that being "so big" can give you some fun and believe me our members are happy.
As a conclusion, our members are happy, our allies are happy, we got a lot of fun and we reached our goals. As part of the command staff of Titans do I have to be ashamed or unhappy for all of this? Of course not. Titans made at least 110 players happy this round. I wish you had the same success as Titans, but what about you and your alliance, you seem to be bitter and not happy in your posts, did you fail in something this round?

4 Dec 2002, 19:22

*shrug*
I posted this before in the "we win" thread, but i'll do it again.

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Name        #    Tot. Score   Tot. roids      Avg. Score  Avg. Roids  #Top50 #Top100 #Top250 
VIRUS     (178)   2687763988    183785         15099798      1033       7      13      26

dabult · 4 Dec 2002, 19:45

Funny how people can bitch on Titans for 'having sooo inaccurate intel', when they dont present any themselves. 'heh'

Personally i think its an impressive list presented there, yes ofcourse that has a lot to do with how eager the ally is to get their hands on coords, but until you have compiled the same stuff, dont complain mkay?

It would also be interesting to get the p/w so you could compare the coords inside to reality, doable maybe?

More people presenting memberlists for fun/to compare with intels maybe?

lrytas · 4 Dec 2002, 20:39

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Originally posted by hAl

Also LDK for instance seems to have managed to get 20 or 30 new members during this round (not uncommon for an alliance having succes). hAl

u r wrong.
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Head shop

Cicada · 4 Dec 2002, 21:32

why is it seemingly Titans responsibility to collect the coords of every alliance in the game? i'm sure with Fury's huge network of spies, their list is much more coherent...

Tesla · 5 Dec 2002, 12:52

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Originally posted by Jurgen
winning alliance = best average score... ok let's take a look at titan score table. (It's not correct as dragon part atleast, but it still is interesting...)

Winners
DEFECTORS (who teh phuck r those) averagescore 29004104

Runner up
MINISTRY (most impressive... good work) averagescore 26220717

Third
Titans (not bad either) averagescore 25994623

(Dragons just fourth in that list we had better average score thoz)

R8
Rank 1 gal
Dragons of destiny (ooh sounds like a name that I like ;-))

Rank orh... dunno what rank smasher was when ticks stopped top 10 for sure top 5 maybe? with no boosting nor donations.

Dragon tag Rank 2
since I didn't give it out to make it rank1 to the end of round coz didn't know ticks would stop so fast.
Still don't claim that dragons were the only true winners

lol...however much I like this ranking... Ministry idling their way to runners up...heh
not really likely wiv the few members we had this round but ahwell..its amusing nevertheless =)

MINISTREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHh!!!!!!!!!!!1

cypher · 5 Dec 2002, 14:34

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Originally posted by General Martok
Since our site didn't get a fresh database dump in about 2 weeks (blame our inactive/DAoC-addicted site-admin ) my best guess is that TFD's average score was only around 7M, but that's with 100 members, 40 of them inactive, so the average of the really playing guys would be higher.

Still far from impressive though

Btw that list Red_guy's list is/was inaccurate and incomplete.

hmm about red's list...

that was actually quite accurate...every member that defended and posted on site as you have to in tfd (for god knows what reason) was on that list originally.
Also a fact is, he left some of his closer friends of the list so that is the reason why it was 'incomplete'

Sjor · 5 Dec 2002, 15:57

Quote:

Originally posted by WebAngel
"We didnt focus on the little alliances" is more correct and it's exactly what Scouse meant here.

well u did on my small BG actually
cya in R9 on new battlefields:eek:

Rember · 5 Dec 2002, 16:10

/me jumps around.

Vision really had a top 100 player too

and we're god damn proud of that :-) (at least I am

)

Saitam · 5 Dec 2002, 19:46

Anyone able to tell me any info about these alliances?

UNKNOWN (112) 722,745,585
Hostile (107) 1,012,030,941
NONE (23) 189,293,207

PS, ADELANTE (106) 634,860,747 <<<and I thought they died??

Duke Leto · 5 Dec 2002, 19:53

The hirr numbers are very close...

Nice intel Titans.

Leto

Scouse · 5 Dec 2002, 21:29

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Originally posted by Saitam
Anyone able to tell me any info about these alliances?

UNKNOWN (112) 722,745,585
Hostile (107) 1,012,030,941
NONE (23) 189,293,207

PS, ADELANTE (106) 634,860,747 <<<and I thought they died??

Unknown's were people whose alliance we didn't know but nicks we did. We also had a few 'Unknown' for people who left their previous alliances.

Hostile was for planets that were hostile to us at the start of the round without us being able to determine their alliances. At the start of the round we were hitting people who were hostile to us and this is where this lot came in.

None is the same as Unknown.

Adelante were planets that were Adelante but no longer bothered us after Adelante died. There was no reason for us to determine their alliance as we were only targetting specific alliances, like Fury and FAnG. We could have set them all to 'Unknown' but this way we saw who used to be in Adelante.

I'd love to see your intel. Like I've said before, most alliances didn't bother us much so we didn't see a reason to mark all their members in Atlas.

General Martok · 5 Dec 2002, 22:29

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Originally posted by cyphie
hmm about red's list...

that was actually quite accurate...every member that defended and posted on site as you have to in tfd (for god knows what reason) was on that list originally.
Also a fact is, he left some of his closer friends of the list so that is the reason why it was 'incomplete'

Well seems my last post was fcked by teh forum, so here we go again..

On that list were about 50-60 coords. I spotted at least 15 totally wrong coords (not TFD) and a lot of wrong nick/coords combinations. For example: Red_guy rhought I was in 20:8, but my humble planet was floating in 34:4 (70% inactive twats

). And I think I can better judge whether the coords list is accurate than you or Red_guy...