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26 Feb 2004, 01:46
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IRC Lackey
Join Date: Aug 2001
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****ing key skills
I'm not going to get an unbiased answer out of any of my teachers, so i'm looking to you lot
Do key skills have any meaning whatsoever apart from UCAS points, which most universities don't seem to care about anyway so long as you have the grades? I'm apparently required to do this Communications key skills thing, which sounds like sitting down learning about how to write reports and discuss things, which sounds about as interesting as a thursday afternoon with a stoned snail. I'm considering just skiving the entire thing, because i don't feel it's worth it at all, but then again they've only told us that it's precious ( :gollum: ) UCAS points at stake so we must do it. Also it was in the contract we had to sign to get into the college (apparently, i don't remember that bit but it might well have been), so i guess there's the slight chance that they might chuck me out if i refuse outright to go.
so
1: Are key skills really worth it?
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2: Is it worth the bother to get the extra time to do coursework and stuff by skiving the entire thing, which would lead to trouble from college and might possibly get me chucked out (though it does seem a rather menial thing to chuck someone out over...)
(I'm exempt from the patronising IT ones because i'm doing Computing at A-level. However i'm not doing English at A-level, so i'm required to do patronising Communications instead.)
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26 Feb 2004, 01:50
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mmm lambs
Join Date: Dec 2000
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Re: ****ing key skills
I don't think they were worth it. I didn't turn up for any of my IT ones and the communications my teacher just used one of pieces of classwork and made up all the other stuff we were meant to do. Most of the universities I looked at also said they wanted these points not including key skills or in the offer would specify 300 points from 3 A levels or so.
So no, not worth it at all.
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26 Feb 2004, 02:19
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all grown up
Join Date: Mar 2001
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Re: ****ing key skills
i did IT but skipped commucations and maths
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26 Feb 2004, 03:18
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Join Date: May 2002
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Re: ****ing key skills
Not only universities care about UCAS points.
I've recently been looking at jobs and they care about them too.
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26 Feb 2004, 03:28
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Damn Dog
Join Date: Jan 2001
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Re: ****ing key skills
when i did my a-levels i went to one key skills class then didnt go again. no ****ing point. if you cant do key skills you shouldnt be doing a-levels anyway.
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26 Feb 2004, 03:28
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Next goal wins!
Join Date: Sep 2000
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Re: ****ing key skills
i didnt get any key skills. Did none of the coursework etc and went to one exam when i turned up by accident. Did quite well, but still did no coursework so got no pass.
personally, i would rather have had all those free friday afternoons than a shit key skills mark.
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26 Feb 2004, 11:44
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The Twilight of the Gods
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Re: ****ing key skills
If you're looking to go to a reasonable university or better, key skills are utterly useless.
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26 Feb 2004, 12:11
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Henry Kelly
Join Date: Apr 2000
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Re: ****ing key skills
Keyskills is utterly useless regardless of where you want to go. When we did them it was the first year they'd been run (I think) as a replacement to General Studies, and a lot of universities didn't even know what they covered let alone their UCAS value.
At least GS taught some semi-useful skills like debating, and finance, and politics. At least it did in our school.
Edit:
Instead of doing keyskills, and if you really want to use your time in some way that could at least be UCAS application material, take up a sport or something with all the other keyskills-h8rs thus giving you the ability to claim that you head an independent sports group at your college/school.
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26 Feb 2004, 17:11
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Bored
Join Date: Apr 2001
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Re: ****ing key skills
They were useful to get some typing qualifications as I did a couple of RSA exams.
But everything else was pointless.
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26 Feb 2004, 17:47
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J to the C to the A G E
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Re: ****ing key skills
I did a GNVQ in IT at school but only did two of the units and failed. Now I have to do Key Skills IT
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26 Feb 2004, 17:49
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Lord Denning
Join Date: Feb 2003
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Re: ****ing key skills
My school didn't even do Key Skills, so I can't imagine they are particularly important.
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26 Feb 2004, 17:57
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The Twilight of the Gods
Join Date: Jan 2001
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Re: ****ing key skills
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Originally Posted by Proteus
My school didn't even do Key Skills, so I can't imagine they are particularly important.
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I did Key Skills and General Studies, but I refused to go to the Key Skills lessons (except the IT ones, because there was an internet connection). I wasn't required to go to the general studies ones, because I was doing 4 A Levels.
The only universities I specifically know of that accepted a General Studies A Level as being equivilent to a proper one were York and Oxford.
And people wonder why we think we're superior.
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26 Feb 2004, 18:07
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J to the C to the A G E
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Re: ****ing key skills
You failed cambridge
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26 Feb 2004, 18:11
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The Twilight of the Gods
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Re: ****ing key skills
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Originally Posted by LHC
You failed cambridge
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In what sense?
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26 Feb 2004, 18:13
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J to the C to the A G E
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Re: ****ing key skills
I thought you had to drop out for being a loser or something
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26 Feb 2004, 18:14
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The Twilight of the Gods
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Re: ****ing key skills
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Originally Posted by LHC
I thought you had to drop out for being a loser or something
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If you've got information, please tell the Senior Tutor of Christ's College. He is of the opinion that I'll be in college next year.
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26 Feb 2004, 18:15
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J to the C to the A G E
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Re: ****ing key skills
I probably made it up but I thought I read something like that somewhre
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26 Feb 2004, 18:16
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Henry Kelly
Join Date: Apr 2000
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Re: ****ing key skills
I thought you got kicked for not turning up to shit =(
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26 Feb 2004, 18:24
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The Twilight of the Gods
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Re: ****ing key skills
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Originally Posted by pablissimo
I thought you got kicked for not turning up to shit =(
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No, restarting the year. ' Degrading' is the specific term.
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26 Feb 2004, 18:26
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cynic
Join Date: May 2000
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Re: ****ing key skills
mark, you are always degrading
and yes, key skills is utter, utter shit, without worth
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26 Feb 2004, 18:31
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Blatantly overcooked
Join Date: Nov 2003
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Re: ****ing key skills
this sounds like those special skills that the pageants must have (no, not fellatio skills) but more like singing or spinning plates...
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26 Feb 2004, 21:34
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Clerk
Join Date: Jun 2001
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Re: ****ing key skills
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Originally Posted by Tomkat
Not only universities care about UCAS points.
I've recently been looking at jobs and they care about them too.
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What? Which jobs have you applied for when they asked about UCAS points?
Do you have a degree? Is this part-time work you're applying for?
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26 Feb 2004, 23:59
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Guest
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Re: ****ing key skills
I never went to my key skills classes....I dropped out of college.
If you dont want to end up like me, go to them.
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27 Feb 2004, 00:36
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The Twilight of the Gods
Join Date: Jan 2001
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Re: ****ing key skills
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Originally Posted by Sir_Workalot
I never went to my key skills classes....I dropped out of college.
If you dont want to end up like me, go to them.
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You shouldn't have banned him, he has a valuable point to make.
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27 Feb 2004, 01:58
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IRC Lackey
Join Date: Aug 2001
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Re: ****ing key skills
As far as i can tell, key skills communications is learning how to write reports and essays, how to do debates properly, and doubtless something meaningless such as how to talk proper eloquent, like wot i is.
I have to write reports in economics, essays in history, we do proper debates in politics and as for anything else, well pfft.
I'm already doing what used to be the RSA diploma in text processing (you have to do at least one 'enrichment' course at this college) , but god knows if they'd give me UCAS points for completing that. At least i get letters after my name.
But the thing that really pisses me off is that i have to miss two rather important lessons (ie. final lessons before coursework exams and the like) doing the exam for this key skills crap, and i value those lessons far more than anything key skills will ever give me, to be honest.
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"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it."
George Bernard Shaw
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27 Feb 2004, 10:07
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: England
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Re: ****ing key skills
I went to about 3 key skills IT lessons before realising that I could have an extra 45 minutes sleep by not going. Noone realised I wasn't going, so I never went back. Unfortunatly now I have no idea how to make a spreadsheet in Excel.
No wait, I already knew how to make a spreadsheet in Excel, so I guess it really was pointless.
I would have skived General Studies as well, but for some reason they kept a track of you in that lesson and I didn't really want to get into any trouble in case they found out I wasn't going to Key Skills.
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