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Unread 16 May 2009, 00:38   #151
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Re: R31 tick 450 | Current state of politics

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Re: R31 tick 450 | Current state of politics

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The reasons above don't explain what I asked you, but don't mind, I don't have the time to try and talk sense in to you lot. It would be like talking to a brick wall which is, as we all know, pretty senseless.
I tried.
Wait you ask me a yes/no question I tell you no.

Then you ask why if I said no? Because I think recruitment is actually ancillary to the entire issue of entertainment.

So what batshit answer are you looking for.
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Were you my gc in r8 riddim? Or am i thinking of someone else who, when I asked for a favour to recall an attack off my best mate, made me escort him for weeks 'ruining' my round If it is you, everyone should ignore you for being a morally corrupt dick :'(
ANd you make urself sound like this cute and innocent princess........
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Unread 16 May 2009, 12:04   #154
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Re: R31 tick 450 | Current state of politics

This has to be the worst round of PA ever. Its like playing the last 2 weeks of r30 with /mode +groundhogday.

Dire.
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Re: R31 tick 450 | Current state of politics

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This has to be the worst round of PA ever. Its like playing the last 2 weeks of r30 with /mode +groundhogday.

Dire.
Yeah I'm with you (although there have been a couple worse than this) - I'm not sure we should have bothered. This is usually what happens after a really good round, the next one heaves shit.

I think we should have opened it up, but hey ho.
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Unread 17 May 2009, 09:39   #156
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Re: R31 tick 450 | Current state of politics

So almost 100 ticks later, anyone know what the current state of politics was in tick 450?
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Unread 17 May 2009, 09:47   #157
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Re: R31 tick 450 | Current state of politics

The politics right now are much more interesting
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Unread 17 May 2009, 11:06   #158
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Re: R31 tick 450 | Current state of politics

For some unexplained reason SPOOOOOON (sp.) launched a P target attack on NewDawn. NewDawn was caught with their pants down and sent out a OMG WE GOT INCS message at some time tonight. Expect the Anti Asc alliance to crumble and die like moldy lunchboxes.. (yes, that was a dig at Boxxy)
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Unread 17 May 2009, 11:19   #159
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Re: R31 tick 450 | Current state of politics

Anything that goes wrong can be blamed to some extent on theking, including that.
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yes Spooooooon are lamers
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Re: R31 tick 450 | Current state of politics

lol, I dared to criticise asc and the asc "we own these forums" propaganda-squad has attacked my forum reputation, which Ive had since ten rounds or more, from 3 green dots to one red dot in a few hours.
Great stuff!
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Lokken, you sometimes wonder why these forum are dead. Go figure.
I suggest from next round on we call PA "Asctarion".
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Re: R31 tick 450 | Current state of politics

I pushed it back up to 4 green blobs from 1 red so stop crying
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Unread 17 May 2009, 14:28   #163
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I pushed it back up to 4 green blobs from 1 red so stop crying
I don't need sympathy dude, it just shows what infants Johnnybgood and achilles are.
They prolly think the idea of this reputation stuff is to negrep everyone disagreeing with them or their friends.
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lol, I dared to criticise asc and the asc "we own these forums" propaganda-squad has attacked my forum reputation, which Ive had since ten rounds or more, from 3 green dots to one red dot in a few hours.
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I suggest from next round on we call PA "Asctarion".
the reason is probably more likely because most of what you are posting does not contribute to the topic of the current state of politics at tick 450.

the number of members asc has and whether the universe would be better off without an asc with 125 players is only of marginal relevence to the topic (as a contributory factor to toot being top).

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Asc doesn't attract all those new players because it is PA paradise, it does because a lot of players seek certainty in PA , they like their planet to get big and they like it to stay big till the end. Every round asc wins it will attract more peeps and it's not because of your good looks.
it may also be because you insult those players who dont join asc cos they 'want an easy time', or even those who do as we tend not too get an easy ride.

contributory factor may be the double posting too...

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They prolly think the idea of this reputation stuff is to negrep everyone disagreeing with them or their friends.
pretty sure I have disagreed with both of them on the forums before without getting a neg rep (before I was asc incase you think that has something to do with it). Neither of them are childish, and I am sure that the rep had pretty much nothing to do with your views, rather the manner you put them across.

more on topic there seems to be a lot of wondering about whether toot is at war with xVx from today. And I have to admit to being totally in the dark. However although it would mean another enemy in the lists (getting rather overwhelming imo) it would at least mean that we could concentrate on our main opposition. Jonas has been saying that the bgs would split and join separate blocs if we were in a war between the top two alliances, well perhaps we shall see if they do!!
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Re: R31 tick 450 | Current state of politics

I have to agree with booji, the biggest mistake the conventional alliances have done has been not to change to meet the new organization Asc offers.

As JBG said a few rounds ago, most likely not every alliance could run like Ascendancy, they would have to have someone in charge, but most alliances can let players be on a lot less tighter leash as they are now. Being confined in alliances you maybe disagree with, while you can see your gal mates have fun in Asc, is going to be the best recruitment advertisement Ascendancy can ever have. The old alliances like CT, ND etc, needs to loosen up a bit. Really.
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the number of members asc has and whether the universe would be better off without an asc with 125 players is only of marginal relevence to the topic (as a contributory factor to toot being top).
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_Kila_ You're disagreeing with my friends, omg! Seriously get over yourself your posts were terrible, I was about to make a post about it and explain but Booji already did. You pretty much implied that Asc have 300 members when we're at 125, that's shit.
If you would have read this entire thread you could see that I replied to a statement from Lokken that he didn't know where recruitment for Asc would end, it might as well go upto 200-300 he said.
That's what I was talking about, I asked if he honestly felt that wouldn't hurt a game with a 1000 member playerbase. So don't try to change the facts which we are talking about here tnx.
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it may also be because you insult those players who dont join asc cos they 'want an easy time', or even those who do as we tend not too get an easy ride.
Now, you really have to show me where I insulted players that don't join asc.
I didn't insult any player in Asc either. If I did, please show me the insults. The only insults I've read were in my user CP next to all the negreps from Asc people.
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contributory factor may be the double posting too...
I'm sorry I'm not an expert at English and forumposting. I hope I didn't insult you with my stupidity.
That's what I was talking about, I asked if he honestly felt that wouldn't hurt a game with a 1000 member playerbase. So don't try to change the facts which we are talking about here tnx.
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If you would have read this entire thread you could see that I replied to a statement from Lokken that he didn't know where recruitment for Asc would end, it might as well go upto 200-300 he said.
That's what I was talking about, I asked if he honestly felt that wouldn't hurt a game with a 1000 member playerbase. So don't try to change the facts which we are talking about here tnx.
That may be what YOU are talking about but it is not what the THREAD is about. The politics of tick 450 have very little to do with the number of players in ascendancy... they are one contributory factor to why ascendancy is in the lead, and therefor the dimensions of politics. However it is of minor interest to the politics, it is a general alliance problem about support planets, alliance limits etc and should be handled at the end of the round. It obviously would hurt the game for us to have 200 to 300 players but the fact is we DONT and probably never will so it is a non issue and TOTALLY off topic.
If you wish to know I think asc damages the game by having more than about 60-70 players and I think we should have split in two for this round, probably not fighting each other but at least providing tag competition (and at the same time making it easier for other alliances to catch either tag as we would not have full 30 member cushion for the counted score.)

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Now, you really have to show me where I insulted players that don't join asc.
I didn't insult any player in Asc either. If I did, please show me the insults. The only insults I've read were in my user CP next to all the negreps from Asc people.
I obviously cant see your user cp so I cant see what insults may or may not be there, I imagine you can report it in some way to a mod (perhaps you should try someone other than lokken if you are worried about asc bias and believe you wont be treated fairly). I was referring to the general insult of you saying that we all join asc to run nice safely protected planets and gain roids all round, as I do not think that it is a factor with many asc players, rather than any specific insulting words (which you have not used and I am sure you never intend to).
EDIT: I see you misunderstood me, I was saying you insulted players who joined asc for reasons other than personal rank/getting away from incs, rather than anyone who is not a member of asc.

ps I have read the entire thread, tho only from page 2 today. I dont make comments unless I have.

Urgh another off topic post
If you wish to know I think asc damages the game by having more than about 60-70 players and I think we should have split in two for this round, probably not fighting each other but at least providing tag competition (and at the same time making it easier for other alliances to catch either tag as we would not have full 30 member cushion for the counted score.)
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Re: R31 tick 450 | Current state of politics

Moderators don't deal with reputation unless it's either bullying or so offensive the rep needs to be removed and the user banned. If you want my 'take' on your reptalk, I'd say it was more about the apparent obtuseness of your argumentative style (which may be down to the fact you are not from an english speaking country as you say) rather than the fact you disagree. To which you are welcome to, by the way. I am against the whole reputation system, but it's a feature that people like, so I don't really argue about it.

I think recruitment can be political, thus it's not off topic really. If an alliance recruits to a level that make it very difficult to oppose, the result is not much different to a block, particularly in a small universe. Whether Ascendancy are in that situation is open for, well, discussion. Which is what this forum is for.
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Whether Ascendancy are in that situation is open for, well, discussion. Which is what this forum is for.
THERE! Proof that this is an Ascendancy forum! Right there! lokken admits PA forums are for discussing Asc! Read all about it!
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The forums are called Alliance Discussions, and Ascendancy is an Alliance is it not?

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Re: R31 tick 450 | Current state of politics

No, Zae, I'm afraid it is you who is failing here.
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that was sorta the point
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Re: R31 tick 450 | Current state of politics

Wait, so Kenny pretended to misinterpret Lokken's post, and then you pretended to misinterpret Kennny's fake misinterpretation? My head hurts.
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lol, I dared to criticise asc and the asc "we own these forums" propaganda-squad has attacked my forum reputation, which Ive had since ten rounds or more, from 3 green dots to one red dot in a few hours.
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Have you not understood that the only thing your rep is for is if it's green you can play arcade?

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I find it amusing reading all this you guys really bitch and moan and its not aimed at asc its all of you asc is and always will be the strongest force in pa soloy. I doubt any alliance soon could match there calibre 1 on 1 the other side is winning due to numbers alittle skill maybe but asc is getting hurt a little. But say it was xvx which was hit they wouldn't even last half the time asc will so everyone who's getting ego boost from singling out asc should get a reality check.

Just for the record, before any of you morons think I'm asc I'm not I'm hc of EC who has started up this round just friends kicking it together having fun small but active laid back ally. So rather then slag and slander asc look at yourselves and maybe make bigger alliances next round and maybe asc will not have as many supports who knows but its part of game so why do people complain so much? You honestly think complaining will change anything people like asc that's why they there. If I was asc and you guys were saying stop having so many support planets id say if there friends of ally members and wanna play in same ally attack defend together what's wrong with that

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Hey Demort!

This is a gift from me :

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I think I kind of agree with you aswell, but it's a bit hard to tell. Good luck with EC bro!

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snurx beat me to it.
Other than that, yes I agree also.
Asc are loosing roids because they are badly out numbered. Without salavage to make up for numbers / skills, asc are atm loosing quite a bit.
But thing is, how long can so many alliances work together? When will they back out and instead go for fatter / easier roids / targets?
Do people really want an alliance lead by cardi to win?

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Do ppl want to join a alliance named in honour of you and me wishmaster, the answer was yes
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Without salavage to make up for numbers / skills, asc are atm loosing quite a bit.
I don't think salvage is making a massive difference overall. Realistically this block is just a lot bigger. Last round we only ever got to about 380, vgn/nd/ct/omen, versus 100. This round it's more like 460 on 90. In terms of scale that's not a massive difference but it's largely about capacity. There's only really one question worth asking though. Does everyone else really want to dedicate their round to supporting xVx to the #1 spot?
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There's only really one question worth asking though. Does everyone else really want to dedicate their round to supporting xVx to the #1 spot?
thats really the question I asked though!
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thats really the question I asked though!
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i would have thought the entire point was not to king xVx, but to dethrone Asc
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i would have thought the entire point was not to king xVx, but to dethrone Asc
You can't do one without the other. Literally. No offence to the #3 on down alliances but the score gap is miles too big.
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Re: R31 tick 450 | Current state of politics

I reckon the current state of politics is actually about as good as could be hoped for this round, given the pre-round tensions.

Here's how things have been panning out:

-Ascendancy have been suffering reasonably heavy fire over the past few days, but before that have only experienced intermittent incs, with days of rest and boredom in-between.

-The block (which no matter how you play it has never broken 400 players, and only then on a very good day) has been bitching, in-fighting, kicking members, unkicking them, and generally pissing about for their own amusement.

While most people involved would indeed like to see Asc fall, the pre-round predictions that a solid barrage of hate would never really emerge have proved correct. This round has not been about dethroning Asc or kinging xVx, it's been about the interplay between the alliances involved. The only reason we're hearing so much complaining about it right now is that for once, Asc have no heavyweight political partners to cajole into action, and are feeling decidedly left out. Let's be clear about this: there has been no solid effort to take down Asc, except for the last two days. That's it. The rest of the time we've been noobroiding, attacking each other for the lulz, and once a week sending a combined effort to some Asc galaxies for a bit of a laugh. It's actually been a fun round for a lot of people, even if it's hardly been the most strategic one. If there had been anything like a concerted effort from the block, Asc wouldn't still be #1 at tick 600. It's natural to try to swing the universe when the pressure's on (and hey, it worked for you last round), but it doesn't mean the round's actually been a bad one so far.

3 days ago I was defending against Wishmaster while roiding Disc. I found this terribly amusing tbfh, albeit only afterwards when someone told me who I'd roided.

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asc got an strangely large number of incs the week before this 'reasonably heavy fire' then, certainly enough that we did not gain roids for the whole week. As I counted the incs each day it was between 150-200 each day (only intag ones) so about 2 per member. A manageable number but still a very large number if you were all simply noobroiding (unless we are those noobs ofc ).
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Let's be ****ing honest here. Two days ago I saw CT, xvx, ND, vgn, wafhh, DLR, evolution and spoon (I didn't see EC or insomnia so I left those out but seeing as we're already over 400 I think it's safe to say you're fairly wrong). As far as the rest goes saying we've had no incs before this is a complete joke. There was a block with all/most of the bgs and ND/VGN (you may remember people bitching at CT for not taking a full part in it or at xVx for not taking part at all). Once a week is just complete bullshit, up until friday it was 5 days in a row to some extent.
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ill let Tommy speak for himself, but our fleets have mainly been heading to asc for quite a while now
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Rock / asc = 125 + 85 = 210

wafhh: 29 Insomnia: 28 vgn: 44 DLR: 34 spooon: 32 evo: 49 CT: 70 ND:68 xvx:90 EC: 12 = 456

so around 2/1
Before xvx joined they did some shared attacking with rock / asc, so at that time the "blocks" were about even.
In reality theres only been these numbers for 2 days.
Not more than last round really, but then u managed because of salvage and retarded crashes.
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Let's be clear about this: there has been no solid effort to take down Asc, except for the last two days. That's it.
That's utter rubbish. 8 alliances started hitting Asc on tuesday last week, had a break in the weekend, and on sunday night were back again hitting Asc.
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That's utter rubbish. 8 alliances started hitting Asc on tuesday last week, had a break in the weekend, and on sunday night were back again hitting Asc.
I dont think any night last week included 8 alliances. no, I KNOW no night included that number. So thats utter rubbish also
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Rock / asc = 125 + 85 = 210

wafhh: 29 Insomnia: 28 vgn: 44 DLR: 34 spooon: 32 evo: 49 CT: 70 ND:68 xvx:90 EC: 12 = 456

so around 2/1
Before xvx joined they did some shared attacking with rock / asc, so at that time the "blocks" were about even.
In reality theres only been these numbers for 2 days.
Not more than last round really, but then u managed because of salvage and retarded crashes.
Good ****ing god man it doesn't matter if rock are napped to us, they're not actively targetting any of the bgs or xvx or anything. The numbers that matter, as this is only a contest between xvx and ascendancy in terms of the #1 ranking, is the numbers hitting xvx versus the numbers hitting ascendancy, which are 4:1 or so with a decreased effectiveness on ascendancy's side due to a large % of our direct numerical advantage being out of tag and of decreased utility in defence. Prior to xvx joining the numbers that mattered were the numbers hitting ascendancy from the bgs and others, which again were far more than those hitting xvx, I don't even know if anyone targetted xvx at all. Pretending this is some sort of block war where pure numbers are meaningful is retarded thinking that hasn't been relevant since the start of pax. There are more than last round involved. This can be demonstrated via the very simple process of basic addition. Regardless just be proud that this round you've effectively become a support planet for an alliance led by someone that effectively shat all over your alliance last round

PS I won't be responding to your reply to this post if you do so as your horrifically over the top factually inaccurate and insanely bitter drivel against ascendancy has reached a level of tedium I'd really not take further part in. Although it is at least a breather from those inane for-the-love-of-god-use-irc posts that seem to crop up with distressing regularity these days.

PPPPPPPPPPPS ND, CT, evolution, dlr, vgn, wafhh, insomnia, EC. Eight? Although that's really not something that meaningful due to the relative sizes of the alliances involved.
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Good ****ing god man it doesn't matter if rock are napped to us, they're not actively targetting any of the bgs or xvx or anything. The numbers that matter, as this is only a contest between xvx and ascendancy in terms of the #1 ranking, is the numbers hitting xvx versus the numbers hitting ascendancy, which are 4:1 or so with a decreased effectiveness on ascendancy's side due to a large % of our direct numerical advantage being out of tag and of decreased utility in defence. Prior to xvx joining the numbers that mattered were the numbers hitting ascendancy from the bgs and others, which again were far more than those hitting xvx, I don't even know if anyone targetted xvx at all. Pretending this is some sort of block war where pure numbers are meaningful is retarded thinking that hasn't been relevant since the start of pax. There are more than last round involved. This can be demonstrated via the very simple process of basic addition. Regardless just be proud that this round you've effectively become a support planet for an alliance led by someone that effectively shat all over your alliance last round

PS I won't be responding to your reply to this post if you do so as your horrifically over the top factually inaccurate and insanely bitter drivel against ascendancy has reached a level of tedium I'd really not take further part in. Although it is at least a breather from those inane for-the-love-of-god-use-irc posts that seem to crop up with distressing regularity these days.

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thats BS ROCK have been attacking with asc on BGs this round. Ask those who deal with ROCK. Its ur job to get them to hit xvx if its the case they are not hitting them atm. Numbers in defence... asc can really jsut FC 1-2 guys each day in the bgs cause they are so few they cant cover vs the massive numbers asc can muster. It works both ways.

cardi is a fking idiot, let there be no doubt, but I ll try to accept him and work with him for as long as possible. He is increasingly annoying me though, so I doubt it will be too long

About not responding to posts, I dont care. Just as I dont care too much about asc. Of all the people in the joint anti asc chan I think I m the one who least would care if asc won again. My asc e-hate isnt all that man. Like u mentioned earlier, the people I disliked in asc are now in xvx. Since its not my alliance though, I am kinda forced to work with xvx and the retards there.

-I just said there hadnt been 1 night with 8 alliances hitting asc. All nights 1-4 alliances didnt aprticipate for various reasons.
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Lets be honest here, I am not really playing so Asc is not getting defence salvage.
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according to 7:3 they do!
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according to 7:3 they do!
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you lost roids, heres a tissue.
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you lost roids, heres a tissue.
Here's a link to the front page so you can read the title of this forum before posting such irrelevant crap again.
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sandmans would indicate aprox 10k roid loss of the last few days
http://www.sandmans.co.uk/?p=viewall...T+THE+ALLIANCE
live in denial if you want to. but the anti asc block is making headway.
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