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22 Jun 2003, 02:12
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PA alliance history
It has come to the attention of this house that no definitive PA history exists so far. So being an over-eager twit with exaggerated views of his own abilities I'm going to try to organise something. If anyone wishes to help, has written something along these lines in the past or thinks they could do a good job on some parts you can pm me on the boards or through irc (I'm always in #forums). Interested to know how far any other attempts at writing a history of PA have gone as well. Thanks and I hope this idea will pan out for the benefit and enlightenment of us all.
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22 Jun 2003, 03:25
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Olrik's Lil' Bro
Join Date: Aug 2000
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Your number one enemy if you're aiming for a definitive version is bias.
Last 'history' I contributed to was really a propaganda brochure, I'd rather not want to repeat that 
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22 Jun 2003, 03:30
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Inactive peon
Join Date: Jan 2003
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If you are tlaking about mine... whcich I really should get round to finish.... feel free to suggets how to un propagandarise it.. otherwise you are right its sickeningly anti ecipse.... but Focht didn't seem to mind that aslong as the basic facts were right... whcih they will be if I stop being lazy adn actually write the thing.
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22 Jun 2003, 03:42
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Quote:
Originally posted by Faberius
Your number one enemy if you're aiming for a definitive version is bias.
Last 'history' I contributed to was really a propaganda brochure, I'd rather not want to repeat that
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Clearly, however due to the fact I've been around for a fairly long time in a fair few places without ever having joined a specific alliance means I've got a relatively objective view. What I hope to do here is to listen to as many informed people as possible and from what they say hopefully build something better.
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22 Jun 2003, 06:52
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etc.
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Get in touch with Chief (if he's still around... or was it "Chef"?) and JC` if I'm not mistaken. Both were involved with the last few attempts at working on a history compendium, so they may have materials still.
Might I recommend you construct a "timeline of events" first, such as alliance creation and disbandment, as well as major alliance wars/'signed' agreements ('blocks' I suppose, heh). From there, seek specific details from all parties involved, etc.
Good luck, you're so going to need it, heh. 
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22 Jun 2003, 07:40
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Olrik's Lil' Bro
Join Date: Aug 2000
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Mr. Speaker, I think the person that the Honourable Member from America is trying to refer to is Chef. I would also like to take this time to opine that the Honourable Member is correct in his view of starting broad and then working on the smaller details.
(in keeping with the apparantly subtle wit of the original post)
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22 Jun 2003, 10:53
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lolly roffle
Join Date: Nov 2001
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Quote:
Originally posted by HobbieRogue4
Get in touch with Chief (if he's still around... or was it "Chef"?) and JC` if I'm not mistaken. Both were involved with the last few attempts at working on a history compendium, so they may have materials still.
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Yeh its Chef. He has gone awol for the last week or so, but when i next see him i will point him in the direction of this thread.
I dont really have much info apart from what is stored in my memory but if someone wants to get the ball rolling and requires some assistance i am more than willing to help out. I think its important to make sure you get a wide variety of people contributing to this so that it is as fair as possible and not biased towards one side or the other.
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Although the history page Scouse seems to be building is different to the alliance one wanted here, it might be worth while talking to him or posting in his thread here.
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23 Jun 2003, 11:44
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Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Crewe, England
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Quote:
Originally posted by HobbieRogue4
Get in touch with Chief (if he's still around... or was it "Chef"?) and JC` if I'm not mistaken. Both were involved with the last few attempts at working on a history compendium, so they may have materials still.
Might I recommend you construct a "timeline of events" first, such as alliance creation and disbandment, as well as major alliance wars/'signed' agreements ('blocks' I suppose, heh). From there, seek specific details from all parties involved, etc.
Good luck, you're so going to need it, heh.
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I agree, if we can get a timeline of when those alliance who at some point have played a major part in the games past, arrived on the scene it will make this task much easier. Once we have this timeline sorted we can as you also say easierly start placing more facts into the timeline such as when major alliance battles took place, when alliances signed agreements ect.
Once this basic timeline of events is finsished we can then work through through the events in a cronoalogical order padding the events out with facts, accounts ect allowing a good account of the history to be built up.
Anyway i'm currently writing a definitive history of F-crew for our new website, obviously for the later rounds theres not going to be much of intrest in it for the general pa player but for r1-3 at least we were a fairly major part of the scene and I'll be willing to supply F-crew POV of these rounds events for the project (and i'm sure smokeh and Key will be willing to help with the IPCs POV of the same period)
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23 Jun 2003, 14:44
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Inquisitor
Join Date: Sep 2000
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Quote:
Originally posted by wakey
I agree, if we can get a timeline of when those alliance who at some point have played a major part in the games past, arrived on the scene it will make this task much easier. Once we have this timeline sorted we can as you also say easierly start placing more facts into the timeline such as when major alliance battles took place, when alliances signed agreements ect.
Once this basic timeline of events is finsished we can then work through through the events in a cronoalogical order padding the events out with facts, accounts ect allowing a good account of the history to be built up.
Anyway i'm currently writing a definitive history of F-crew for our new website, obviously for the later rounds theres not going to be much of intrest in it for the general pa player but for r1-3 at least we were a fairly major part of the scene and I'll be willing to supply F-crew POV of these rounds events for the project (and i'm sure smokeh and Key will be willing to help with the IPCs POV of the same period)
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27 Jun 2003, 19:05
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Raaaaaaaah!
Join Date: Apr 2000
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Chef didn't have the ability to handle a project like the one he spoke of.
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27 Jun 2003, 23:55
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vole vo koshe avec moi?
Join Date: Feb 2003
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Its impossible to write an history of the alliances, face it! Though for those who cares (like me) - there is some thing caled memory, and the ability to know whats happend before.. And thats nice..
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1 Jul 2003, 02:45
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Aesir [Founder]
Join Date: Jun 2003
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Pa history..
I saw several earlier somewhere, but ppl used to favour their own alliances and their achievements in a degree.
So its kind of hard to get a complete written pa history from a neutral part usually.
Because many of the old/ancient alliances out there still exist in planetarion community (-:
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1 Jul 2003, 14:56
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The one you love to hate!
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Romania
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well every alliance has it's history ... but i don't think many ppl would read a 300+ pages book about planetarion alliances / players / community / cheaters / bot users and everything else good or bad :-)
or at least i know i wouldn't use my time reading something like that
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2 Jul 2003, 14:10
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Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: In lala land
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Its impossible to do a history of pa alliances properly.
For everything known there are huge chunks unknown. Many of the movers and shakers of the early rounds are gone and some of the people who wish to add their knowledge are only given the pieces that they were told.
I know huge chunks of history of alliances but also know that for every piece I know there are 4 or 5 pieces I didnt know.
Some of the history has been clouded by folk-lore ... perhaps thats the best way of leaving them now.
Enjoy the game for the memory it holds and forget some history of PA alliances that some-one can come back later and say its wrong beacuse of xyz
ps.... I wont pass this opportunity of saying Spinner ruined PA as my m8s would expect it and no history of PA would be complete without having spinner as a creator and destroyer of the game
 
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2 Jul 2003, 16:08
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Join Date: May 2003
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add r9,5 bashing at LDK planets please
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R6 Cba of pa when i need to graduate [RL]
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R8 41:7:3 The storyteller of the last Saga [Titans][Plush][Defcon]
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4 Jul 2003, 06:42
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Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Outside Pat's bedroom window
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Quote:
Originally posted by Zh|l
BUT VOM/FURY/INSERT ALLIANCE BLOCKED FIRST!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111 ROFL LOL!!!11
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What about Concordium and T6E in r1??
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5 Jul 2003, 10:46
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J to the C to the A G E
Join Date: Sep 2000
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It will probably be a bit tl;dr
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6 Jul 2003, 08:48
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The Ant Knight
Join Date: Jul 2003
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retrospect and all that jazz!
 wah ha! its fun looking into the past though. (but only to laugh at and smile. not to point fingers or get angry, thats dumb, its past already) like how the battle system was in round 1. =) ships targeted EVERYTHING. all you had to do was build a whole mess of fighters to soak up flak, and then battleships for damge. pure and simple. other ships were practically useless. har har~!
was it round 2 or 3 whenthey cam up with different ship targets? i don't quite remember. ALSO when thieves first came out they were MAD crazy good ships. -=) i'd just build ship stealers and go around stealing other peoples ships. i was sad when they disbanded those ships. heh =) but it was rightly so, those ships made it too easy. (man we had a ball with them though...EFFECTIVE)
lets see...what else? i remember conc, WAC, Blue tuba, fury.....nobody liked conc afterward. -=] what just because they had a good large guild? ::shrugs::
all you who have not exp'd the first 2-3 rounds of the game (1-3)...be thankful. PA has come along way, PA has gotten ALOT of the kinks out of the gameplay too. i accept alot of the changes the creators have made. any race would have too great of an advantage without them. yes, and as an old saying went back in the day of round 1-3...thats my two cents (or two M's)
And i like this new banana guy....what more could you ask for? MWA HA HA
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7 Jul 2003, 08:03
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The Ant Knight
Join Date: Jul 2003
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one more thing
oh! and i remember when we had this "galactic defense force" or whatever it was called. you could DONATE ships to your GC or something and those donated ships would protect your galaxy while you were away. what it did was split all the ships up among your galaxy members. HAR! =) that idea was still in practice when i left. good thing they took it out.
MAN! this banana man is cool...can't get enough of him. 
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13 Jul 2003, 18:14
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Fac ut vivas
Join Date: Dec 2002
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I would be willing to help on a PA history if any help is needed
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28 Jul 2003, 22:01
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Ruler of all things furry
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: UK
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ipc already has a good history on our webbie.
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18 Aug 2003, 12:26
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IRC Pe0n
Join Date: Jul 2003
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so far this thread appears to have been a complete waste of time has it not?
not solutions, nothing happening just flame and crap.
I think it wud be a good idea to write a PA alliance history.
U got my help if u want it
Cooper
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19 Aug 2003, 16:49
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It would be nice to see some capsules of many/all of the alliances named in the string "Name That Alliance". Maybe a paragraph maximum about each.
Round Started:
Mission:
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I would suggest setting up webpage so people can submitt history and you can edit and etc. Willing to help...
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14 Sep 2003, 15:26
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Pr0f3ss10na1 P30n
Join Date: Jun 2000
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What are you gonna do with it when/if it gets completed. Will everybody be able to access it?
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16 Sep 2003, 10:13
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Domestic Diva
Join Date: Jan 2001
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Quote:
Originally posted by Hicks
Chef didn't have the ability to handle a project like the one he spoke of.
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kind of you to say so... it was really due to time and inclination that i never completed the project.
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17 Sep 2003, 20:51
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Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: pennsylvania
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What about Concordium and T6E in r1??
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im sorry im going way back here.....
but Bluetuba owned rounds one and two....
only to be mashed by Fury & Legion in round three
Oooomph!
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18 Sep 2003, 06:04
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Retard Magnet
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: In the closet
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Quote:
Originally posted by pnovak
im sorry im going way back here.....
but Bluetuba owned rounds one and two....
only to be mashed by Fury & Legion in round three
Oooomph!
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did you get that out of the 'crack-a-joke book' ... or just of the back of a cornflakes packet ?
Bluetuba didn't win a single round ever afaik ... unless u count the stats mess up in rnd one - where they took the stats later than they said they would: c7R had the No.1 gal at the time that the final stats where supposed to be taken ..... but they took it later and a Bt gal managed to sneak in.
BT certainly haven't dominated a rnd and tended to play 2nd or 3rd fiddle at best ( no offence - simple facts ).
I'm sure we twated them in rnd 2 
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18 Sep 2003, 06:36
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Originally posted by Cryptic
did you get that out of the 'crack-a-joke book' ... or just of the back of a cornflakes packet ?
Bluetuba didn't win a single round ever afaik ... unless u count the stats mess up in rnd one - where they took the stats later than they said they would: c7R had the No.1 gal at the time that the final stats where supposed to be taken ..... but they took it later and a Bt gal managed to sneak in.
BT certainly haven't dominated a rnd and tended to play 2nd or 3rd fiddle at best ( no offence - simple facts ).
I'm sure we twated them in rnd 2
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none taken...
but just because they were not the number one gal. dosent mean they wernt powerful...
you made them seem insabordinate..
back in round one..planetarion wasnt quite as advanced as it is today...
i dont want to say it was harder to form an alliance..because it wasnt...
its just that BT was one of the first of the many great alliances to come..
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Quote:
Originally posted by pnovak
none taken...
but just because they were not the number one gal. dosent mean they wernt powerful...
you made them seem insabordinate..
back in round one..planetarion wasnt quite as advanced as it is today...
i dont want to say it was harder to form an alliance..because it wasnt...
its just that BT was one of the first of the many great alliances to come..
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I'm not saying they were irrelevent , but they have not had the impact on the game as the big 3; Fury, Legion and Xanadu
My response was simply in reply to your comments regarding rnd 1 ,2 ,3 as regards there impact and your belief they won.
In terms of the whole history of PA , it is without question BT have a place in the annals
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18 Sep 2003, 07:53
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Don't make me declare war
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Bt started r2 with an insane amount of tagged members.
Then they died.
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Quote:
Originally posted by pnovak
none taken...
but just because they were not the number one gal. dosent mean they wernt powerful...
you made them seem insabordinate..
back in round one..planetarion wasnt quite as advanced as it is today...
i dont want to say it was harder to form an alliance..because it wasnt...
its just that BT was one of the first of the many great alliances to come..
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conc were way more powerfull in rd 1.
and as cryptic rightly said bt never won a round
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18 Sep 2003, 12:49
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Lucky
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i like the timeline idea.
it's doable i think, just requires a LOT of time and effort.
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20 Sep 2003, 01:55
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Quote:
Originally posted by Forest
Bt started r2 with an insane amount of tagged members.
Then they died.
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If I remeber right didn't a certain other alliance die out do to cheating?
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Quote:
Originally posted by Cryptic
I'm not saying they were irrelevent , but they have not had the impact on the game as the big 3; Fury, Legion and Xanadu
My response was simply in reply to your comments regarding rnd 1 ,2 ,3 as regards there impact and your belief they won.
In terms of the whole history of PA , it is without question BT have a place in the annals
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true. bluetuba never had a major role in pa, were just there for sh*ts and giggles
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1 Oct 2003, 18:10
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Originally posted by H1TMANish
true. bluetuba never had a major role in pa, were just there for sh*ts and giggles
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BT didnt become a legit force till after they got Mashed in r2.
And c7r, the outmanned, outgunned defenders of the free world (and our rights to c7 roids) were clearly the moral as well as numerical winners of r1.
(lo kwiptic.)
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