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Unread 4 Dec 2004, 14:51   #1
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Has any alliance reached 100 members in its first round?

Somethin that came up in a covnversation... ill have to explain tho

Im HC of [APA] Alliance, and at the moment, we have 89 members. For this round, our aim was to be recognised to make it easier for next round, and as we started days in were doin ok. Thing is, we dont feel like we need to kick anyone other than a few inactives, as they all make a valuable contribution to our alliance, even if next round, we would like a little more activity. They help in attacks, contribute as much as poss etc...

I know people might not agree with our ideas for this round (to jus be known and prepare for nextroud, and of course have fun) but thats why its our alliance!

To the point....

If we make it to 100members, would we be the first alliance to do it in their first round?


know its prob a stupid question, but still.......
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Unread 4 Dec 2004, 14:55   #2
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Re: Has any alliance reached 100 members in its first round?

no u wouldnt.

1up started with 100 players in its first round (infact more as they had the chance to reject ppl and still reach the limit).

same goes for some older alliances like eclipse, fang. Even the less successfull ones like Phratkos and Absolute reached 100 in their first round, evnetho they couldnt keep at that level.
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Unread 4 Dec 2004, 15:01   #3
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Re: Has any alliance reached 100 members in its first round?

ah well, doesnt matter,

worth a try
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Unread 4 Dec 2004, 15:35   #4
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Re: Has any alliance reached 100 members in its first round?

It aint hard to get 100 members your first round, getting 100 good members, that's the hard part
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Re: Has any alliance reached 100 members in its first round?

jus curious, people talkin in our public chan didnt know thats all

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Unread 4 Dec 2004, 18:05   #6
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Re: Has any alliance reached 100 members in its first round?

You know as good as I, Focht, that neither 1up or Eclipse was a new alliance.
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Re: Has any alliance reached 100 members in its first round?

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Unread 4 Dec 2004, 19:20   #8
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Re: Has any alliance reached 100 members in its first round?

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You know as good as I, Focht, that neither 1up or Eclipse was a new alliance.

by your logic same would apply for any alliance created after r1 or 2.

Deus / LDK as alliances were not "new" nor titans, nor olympians etc etc etc.

Its pretty simple, every alliance "newly founded" under a new tag, with new command and new members can be counted as new.

The past showed that MOST alliances newly found reached the 100 member level quickly, regardless what you label them or how your personal stance is towards them.

To answer the original question again: 100 members isnt unique other alliances did it before.
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Unread 4 Dec 2004, 22:44   #9
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Re: Has any alliance reached 100 members in its first round?

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The past showed that MOST alliances newly found reached the 100 member level quickly, regardless what you label them or how your personal stance is towards them.
You're wrong. Most alliances don't reach 100 members. A small minority, mostly alliances founded by members previously in large, dominant alliances, reach 100 members.

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To answer the original question again: 100 members isnt unique other alliances did it before.
It's not unique, but it's not often that alliances no one's really heard about, founded by people no one's really heard about reach 100 members.

I think what people need to remember is that while most AD posters think of alliances in terms of who can deliver firepower. Which means that only about 10% of alliances are rated.
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Unread 5 Dec 2004, 02:40   #10
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Re: Has any alliance reached 100 members in its first round?

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You're wrong. Most alliances don't reach 100 members. A small minority, mostly alliances founded by members previously in large, dominant alliances, reach 100 members.

It's not unique, but it's not often that alliances no one's really heard about, founded by people no one's really heard about reach 100 members.

I think what people need to remember is that while most AD posters think of alliances in terms of who can deliver firepower. Which means that only about 10% of alliances are rated.
i said most, especially since the the 100 player limit is rather new.
In old days alliances like Elysium, Lost etc etc all reached 100 members in their first round while beeing virtually nobodies. This came from the vast amount of players around, 100 wasnt even less, some alliances publically beated their chest about having 500s of members.
In the later rounds we saw alot of recycling going on, with the lack of new fresh players many alliances which were created already had a certain quality or a certain "way of life" which generally attracted new and old players to join them, especially if their main alliance disbanded or if they had friends in there from former blocks. This made it easier for those new but not unknown (as this wasnt part of the question) alliances to jump over 100 ppl.

In the past few rounds, especially smaller alliances of the former rounds, namely vsn, nd and even "wings" like LCH reformed and became bigger players. They also managed to get 100 players in their first independent round if im no mistaken..

Replying (again) to the original question (yes jester thats what i answered) he asked first new alliance ever. The answer is still no.
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Unread 5 Dec 2004, 03:12   #11
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Re: Has any alliance reached 100 members in its first round?

a real accomplishment would be to get 100 first round true newbies into a halfway serious alliance,

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Re: Has any alliance reached 100 members in its first round?

Congrats to Focht for totally missing the point :/
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Unread 5 Dec 2004, 23:28   #13
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Re: Has any alliance reached 100 members in its first round?

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To the point....

If we make it to 100members, would we be the first alliance to do it in their first round?


know its prob a stupid question, but still.......
This was the point madrisky, and i answered this point.

Now if you have comprehending issues please dont show them off that obvious in the public.

kthxbye

btw 1 liner idiotposts rule dude, you need to make more of those.
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Unread 6 Dec 2004, 00:19   #14
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Re: Has any alliance reached 100 members in its first round?

Reaching 100 members in one round now - It would take a bit of effort, but pretty easily doable.

100 GOOD members is a different story.

Since over the rounds, PA has consistently become a smaller game in terms of number of players, it has become increasingly hard to get a large alliance. On the other hand, P2P means that the average quality of players in the game is much larger than it used to be.

Back in the day, alliances existed with 1000+ members, such as the most powerful and elite alliance that ever existed, Scandinavian Legion.

In PA, quality > quantity.
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Re: Has any alliance reached 100 members in its first round?

SL reached 1.000 members in its first round. :[
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Re: Has any alliance reached 100 members in its first round?

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This was the point madrisky, and i answered this point.

Now if you have comprehending issues please dont show them off that obvious in the public.

kthxbye

btw 1 liner idiotposts rule dude, you need to make more of those.
no offence but you are missing the bigger picture... in favour of saying that no-one can be as good as the examples you gave.

Try reading what Jester put (Banned)...
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Re: Has any alliance reached 100 members in its first round?

I was once founder of the [UNITY] [BRO] alliances, and i think that numbers depend on two things, 1. Organisation and 2. Motivation of your members, its no use having a 100 strong force if 50 of them are inactive....
[BRO] had some really bad problems with inactivity and in the end it cost us badly, but we were able to reach 100strong in our first real round quite easily.
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Re: Has any alliance reached 100 members in its first round?

I think most of you are all just ****ing retarded, the question clearly was if a new alliance ever reached the 100 member mark in their first round, ofcourse 'new' alliances with more or less roots in former alliances aren't worth pointing at in this context.
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Re: Has any alliance reached 100 members in its first round?

were brand new, a lot of new members to the game / returnin members

i was jus tryin to see if we have done as well as we thought we had, as we only aimed for top 20 really now were takin on alliances in the top 20 and on the better side of the battle reports
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Good to see you're doing well There aren't enough new alliances about.
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you guys are doing pretty good.... build yourself a solid foundation and you should be ready for the next round
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