Planetarion Forums - Stealing ships comeback?

noah02 · 23 Jan 2005, 10:43

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Originally Posted by Kal

I don;t think consultation is bad, we just like to have a few surprises now and again, its about the only fun we have left, and some people have ben consulted on the change in question....

Oh right so you told ppl who can get a head start on the idea maybe some ppl in a
popular alliance?
Just a question is all

But anyways i do agree with demigod you is all doing a brilliant job tbh yes ppl make mistakes and ppl moan but you find the ppl who moan probs make plenty more mistakes than you do hence why they notice them quicker

Good work PA team

Kal · 23 Jan 2005, 12:30

for thoose that haven;t guessed yet - it is indeed stealing that will be making a come back but it will work quite differently from the last time it was here - details will be announced along with beta info soon.

noah02 · 23 Jan 2005, 12:32

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Originally Posted by Kal

for thoose that haven;t guessed yet - it is indeed stealing that will be making a come back but it will work quite differently from the last time it was here - details will be announced along with beta info soon.

Wahoo all them poor terrans/cats/xans getting there ships stolen by pink ships with sexeh pretend not real women in them in pink bikinis to trick them with

Kal · 23 Jan 2005, 12:41

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Originally Posted by mist

assuming that you're going to tell people what they're getting when they choose races, the only difference i can see between telling people now and telling people in a month's time is the month of fixing time you loose if someone does indeed spot a problem.

i promise we'll all look just as surprised now as we will later. honest.

well quite obviosuly people find things out in the beta anyway... which will be very very soon

hook · 23 Jan 2005, 13:18

So stealing instead of pink wings? You can count me out on taking Zik...

noah02 · 23 Jan 2005, 13:43

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Originally Posted by hook

So stealing instead of pink wings? You can count me out on taking Zik...

they still get the pink wings

Orion Treet · 23 Jan 2005, 14:26

w00t! Ziks get at least some form of stealing back

Conall · 25 Jan 2005, 00:07

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Originally Posted by JC

Being in PA team for a sufficient length of time tends to have that effect on you

.

It is called drinking the cool aid.

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Originally Posted by mist

assuming that you're going to tell people what they're getting when they choose races, the only difference i can see between telling people now and telling people in a month's time is the month of fixing time you loose if someone does indeed spot a problem.

i promise we'll all look just as surprised now as we will later. honest.

And mist has a point. If a dog bites you once and you go back to pet him, it is called being trusting. If he bites you a second time and you go back again, its because you are a fool, and deserve Cujo's rath.

So for people to be skeptical should hardly be a suprise. My take is that keeping us in the dark is a protective measure. So if we point out the flaws then there is no time to fix it and the round just carries on. Sort of like PA has done in the past. That is if there are any flaws.....maybe there are not. (not holding my breath tho).

Hmm, maybe thats the old thing, and the tease is the new twist?!?!

Cannon_Fodder · 25 Jan 2005, 01:41

hmm, maybe it could be good, as long as stealing is not as good as subvertion in terms of effectiveness ( subvertion has same effectiveness as emping, this is so unfair....). surely caths would be improved as a result, and terrans would then have more targets, and therefore xans would have more targets, and zik would.. and you get the idea...

Kal · 25 Jan 2005, 10:48

stealing will definitly not be effective thats for sure

Cannon_Fodder · 25 Jan 2005, 14:00

just as long as stealing has nowhere near the effectiveness of subverting im happy

Cannon_Fodder · 25 Jan 2005, 14:42

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Originally Posted by Envious

stop teasing us Kal.. come on give us some meat to chew on

did i miss something or didnt he already tell us it was stealing?

Envious · 25 Jan 2005, 16:48

true, thats what you get from not reading the middle part of a thread

i'll delete my post

Orion Treet · 26 Jan 2005, 03:22

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Originally Posted by Kal

stealing will definitly not be effective thats for sure

You've got me confused now

But I'm pretty sure that's the general idea.

Gumbie · 26 Jan 2005, 04:04

Nono, you want it to be effective, just not too effective. Else no-one will go zik. I agree that you need a lot of consultation to get that balance right. After all 2 heads are better than one, extrapolated out to a decent size.

Or at least extensive alpha testing by the PA team to ensure they can compete. Then pitch it to us in a closed beta, and mass tested in the open beta. Of course, you should know that, and I assume that's the direction you're going.

exblade · 26 Jan 2005, 04:48

i think it might be PDS...

Karjeg · 26 Jan 2005, 10:28

None of you people know anything. Cathaar will have a new construction called "barn" where they can buy "cows"

These "cows" will produce "fuel" for the ships. A massive effort on the part of PAteam to make the game better for the environment. This will not be forgotten, you have the word of the CCFEFSFS (Cathaar Collective For Environmentally Friendly Ship Fuel Systems) on that.

Alternately, huge tanks will collect all the BS on the forums and process it for methane.

noah02 · 26 Jan 2005, 16:05

Why are you 2 above me still guessing when Kal has specifically said its stealing?
Or do you not know hes part of PA staff?

And watch them words carefully Kal saying stealing will not be affective sounds a bit tonk but then again you could steal ships and use the ones you have nicked.

Cannon_Fodder · 26 Jan 2005, 16:56

i would have suggested having zik only being able steal other zik ships, but as kal has said in other threads, such things are not realistic.

plus it would screw up the balance, maybe someone can alter that suggestion slightly?

Gumbie · 26 Jan 2005, 19:10

If zik could only steal zik, you'd just end up with more zik ships, which can still only steal zik ships...
Also, everyone would nuke zik knowing they can't do much back.
You could introduce a new shipstat, succeptability, that dictates how effective things such as EMP and stealing are. Then if you find that Xan are just being stolen in droves, you improve them in that way, but keep their armour the same. After all, why is a hulking terran lump of steel just as good at taking fire as it is protecting its systems from EMP or nanobots?