Single targetting to return.. Opinions!!!

[x-dANGEr]

Then, I guess I'm not. ))

[Gerbie2]

With multitargetting you have a choice of which ship to build and which not. With singletargetting you need just about every ship there is. That leaves a lot less choice to determine your own strategy.

[ricoshay]

Heh, you could set it up with your alliance/galaxy. Not sure if ST will be good or bad, but the game definetly needs a [new] factor. :/

[Sun_Tzu]

Originally Posted by Mzyxptlk

No.

Good for you

The reason Mz isn't willing to explain is because it is not upon him to teach you how to understand the question at hand, so that you can take part of the conversation. Instead, it is upon you to make sure you are well informed enough to understand the subject before entering into a discussion of it. Otherwise people get used to the idea that they can spout any old stupid sh*t they like, and they'll simply be corrected later on. This just piles up more work for him to explain why they are wrong, without him getting anything out of it in return.

And everything is statistics, when you are trying to extrapolate patterns to gain greater understanding from personal experience, you are naturally employing the basic tools of statistics. This is also why sample size matters. Otherwise, you might make predictions such as that if you do not sacrifice a virgin to the harvest-god, a plague will take your fields of wheat. Basically, nearly all misconceptions of reality are based on the misunderstanding of statistics.

Fck, I'm going soft, I really should get back to my regiment of pure and simple abuse of the uninformed.

[Zaejii]

Originally Posted by Gerbie2

With multitargetting you have a choice of which ship to build and which not. With singletargetting you need just about every ship there is. That leaves a lot less choice to determine your own strategy.

the last single targeting round proved that you don't NEED every ship there is. in theory it is true. however, in application..

if groups actually built decent sized attack fleets in different classes instead of building the 1 or 2 classes/ships their alliance tells them to, you would probably see a change in this. this also goes for multi-targeting rounds as well.

for example:
in r35 (single targeting) I had a mass amount of beetles with enough other ships to stop pod only attacks.
in r36 (multi targeting) I had mostly pegs (anti-co/fi) and dragon (anti-bs/cr).

yes, i know i didn't win the round, but in either environment nobody is forced to build every ship to cover anything. that is why your alliance/galaxy is allowed to defend you.

[x-dANGEr]

The reason Mz isn't willing to explain is because it is not upon him to teach you how to understand the question at hand, so that you can take part of the conversation. Instead, it is upon you to make sure you are well informed enough to understand the subject before entering into a discussion of it. Otherwise people get used to the idea that they can spout any old stupid sh*t they like, and they'll simply be corrected later on. This just piles up more work for him to explain why they are wrong, without him getting anything out of it in return.

Thanks for explaining Mz's thoughts! ))

And everything is statistics

I disagree there.

[Sun_Tzu]

Originally Posted by x-dANGEr

I disagree there.

Just because you disagree doesn't mean you can't be wrong. Or, in fact, that you aren't wrong. Because you are.

Statistics is the use of data. Everything is data. Every time you interpret data, you employ means of statistical analysis. Some simply do so better than others.

[x-dANGEr]

I'm actually quite sure that I'm right.

It is a flawed generalization to say "everything is statistics", which is why I disagree. On one hand, many theories are not based on statistical information. On the other hand, many are based on a small sample size the way you put it. Here, it is someone speaking their opinion: an assumption based on a two-round experience, and some logical build. Why not critique that build instead of dissing the opinion because of the small sample size? I'm not quite asking; I already know the answer. Just saying.

[Sun_Tzu]

Originally Posted by x-dANGEr

I'm actually quite sure that I'm right.

It is a flawed generalization to say "everything is statistics", which is why I disagree. On one hand, many theories are not based on statistical information. On the other hand, many are based on a small sample size the way you put it. Here, it is someone speaking their opinion: an assumption based on a two-round experience, and some logical build. Why not critique that build instead of dissing the opinion because of the small sample size? I'm not quite asking; I already know the answer. Just saying.

The problem, it seems to me, is that you don't understand what you're talking about. You simply don't know what statistics is, and as such you are making incorrect assumptions as to what falls within the field of statistics.

Simply put, you can't make any meaningful observations about the world without employing some tools of statistics. I started to write a justification, but it seemed meaningless and obvious, so I stopped.

[x-dANGEr]

I'm actually quite sure that I'm right.

It is a flawed generalization to say "everything is statistics" ))

Simply put, I'm saying a no-brainer here. Why do you bother to justify something else I'm not quite sure why. On another note, though, this isn't funny anymore; it feels like I'm abusing your inability to just shut up and ignore something you don't find worthy of noting. Will stop here anyhow ))

[t3k]

They're not statistics, they're mobile.

[Mzyxptlk]

If all you both are going to do is "yes, it is" and "no, it isn't", you might as well not post at all.

[t3k]

You've obviously never been to the pantomime.

[Sun_Tzu]

Originally Posted by Mzyxptlk

If all you both are going to do is "yes, it is" and "no, it isn't", you might as well not post at all.

Yeah, I kind of gave up already, I realized I'm dealing with a special kind of "speshul".

[sk8_bordin]

Yes, all analysis is statistics, not everything is statistics, I'm pretty sure my cat isn't statistics o.O

[Razock]

As some one who doesn't know what to say about the topic i decided to shut up and learn from people who know more then me, so can we please get ON topic again and i can read and learn. Thank you.

[Sun_Tzu]

Originally Posted by sk8_bordin

Yes, all analysis is statistics, not everything is statistics, I'm pretty sure my cat isn't statistics o.O

No, your cat is data

[sk8_bordin]

My cat is data yes Nice cuddly data! And no Razock! You will learn the ways of off-topic-threadness instead! :P

[Hude]

Your mothers are (just) statistics.

[Wishmaster]

Originally Posted by Razock

As some one who doesn't know what to say about the topic i decided to shut up and learn from people who know more then me, so can we please get ON topic again and i can read and learn. Thank you.

well, its been "discussed" back and forth.

In the end its what you like, and how you want planetarion to be.
I dont want to be roided by nubs, the nubs want to be able to roid me. Thats about it!