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Unread 5 Feb 2009, 15:43   #1
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Fix the ****ing

recall on rollback rule or alot of people are quitting
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Re: Fix the ****ing

lol roll back or not i bet they are working on the mistake we just need to have some patience.
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Re: Fix the ****ing

it will be rolling back fair enough the db is ****ed but recalling fleets AGAIN is ****ing so many people over and its just not ****ing right or fair.
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Re: Fix the ****ing

It would be utter **** to rollback now.


Expect it. :/
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Geez what a language......

Can we please keep ut mature by just saying you hope you wont get any recalls?
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Rollback - ok

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Geez what a language......

Can we please keep ut mature by just saying you hope you wont get any recalls?
you joined a thread which has a swear word in the topic and expected good language in it?

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Re: Fix the ****ing

ROLLBACKTARION!
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Re: Fix the ****ing

(15:01:54) (@Lunar_Lamp) OK, there is going to be a rollback.
(15:01:58) (@Lunar_Lamp) We can't avoid it.

Don't recall fleets at least >.<
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****ing over other people - ok

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Great logic there, isil. :/
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Re: Fix the ****ing

There was apparently some kind of power surge which fecked a sh*tload of data, so there's no way to avoid a rollback.

Currently exploring the option of not recalling fleets - the main reason FOR recalling being consistency with past policy and the risk of people losing fleets whilst being unable to recall.

Talk through the problem guys, this wasn't an administrative error so lets not get overly hostile. Short of being part of the circuitry, there's not a lot PATeam coulda done to stop this one...
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Uhh what. Rollback a tick or two changes next to nothing, recalling fleets in addition changes ALOT.
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Talk through the problem guys, this wasn't an administrative error so lets not get overly hostile. Short of being part of the circuitry, there's not a lot PATeam coulda done to stop this one...
Im not blaming PA crew Im just saying that recalling fleets yet again is WRONG as it serves little to no real purpose.
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Re: Fix the ****ing

And my point was that 50 people (a number we were working our way up to!) coming on the forums and shouting at the admin isn't going to make them too inclined to listen to reason.
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Uhh what. Rollback a tick or two changes next to nothing, recalling fleets in addition changes ALOT.
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And my point was that 50 people (a number we were working our way up to!) coming on the forums and shouting at the admin isn't going to make them too inclined to listen to reason.
Your point is pretty irrelevent

People like to complain, like to moan, let them have their SAY!!
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And my point was that 50 people (a number we were working our way up to!) coming on the forums and shouting at the admin isn't going to make them too inclined to listen to reason.
As if they would anyway.

Edit: Power surge? I guess an UPS is too expensive, huh?
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Re: Fix the ****ing

I get seriously annoyed at the people who refuse to see that any rollback MUST be accompanied by a full fleet recall. We have the same damned "discussion" every time it happens.

Yes there will be winners and losers from recalling fleets - but there can be NO excuse for risking players losing fleets that they believed they had safely recalled.
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What does a parcel delivery service have to do with anything?




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Dude they have f**king 28 hours to notice that they have to recall their fleets again
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Re: Fix the ****ing

if you dont check the game in the 24 hours after a rollback. you deserve to lose your fleet. end of.
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Re: Fix the ****ing

/emoquit

GJ this game is going in the shitter if the datacentre doesn't even have backup power.

I laugh at all the people who want a rollback because they're too ****ing retarded to calc and crashed their fleet. Technically it gives these people an advantage, because all the people who landed well lose their attacks - those who crashed would just be given a 2nd chance to actually recall this time.
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Re: Fix the ****ing

Either cancel the ****ing round, its a huge disrespect to the people who have used time on the game twice in a short periode of time to completely delete their work. Or hey, open the game with like 10 hours untill tick and every active person in PA will have had their chance to recall. Don't even view recalling fleets again as an option.
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Either cancel the ****ing round, its a huge disrespect to the people who have used time on the game twice in a short periode of time to completely delete their work. Or hey, open the game with like 10 hours untill tick and every active person in PA will have had their chance to recall. Don't even view recalling fleets again as an option.
yep, they could open the game now and start the ticker at 11 tomorrow as planned... but recalling fleets is just retarded.
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Re: Fix the ****ing

if fleets are recalled why arnt we ticking now, thats what i dont get.
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Don't recall fleets, reopen the game and give 10-12 ticks before the tick. This seems sensible, why isn't it being done?



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Unread 5 Feb 2009, 16:39   #38
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Re: Fix the ****ing

Havent cost me any roids really, just alot of work down the pisser.
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Unread 5 Feb 2009, 16:41   #39
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if fleets are recalled why arnt we ticking now, thats what i dont get.
Yeah, tomorrow at 11gmt when ticks start everyone having fleets home and attacking will be pointless until the evening, heh.
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Unread 5 Feb 2009, 16:42   #40
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The server seems to have lost power and as a result we had massive db corruption.
The game has been rolled back to tick 279 (10:30 gmt), the game will reopen at 10:00 gmt on friday and tick will happen at 11:00 gmt.
All fleets have been recalled.

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Unread 5 Feb 2009, 16:45   #41
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Yeah, tomorrow at 11gmt when ticks start everyone having fleets home and attacking will be pointless until the evening, heh.
I'm missing that part aswell. Can't PA team give a small explanation for this?
Would be quite nice to explain customers why they cant access there product for a full day.
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Unread 5 Feb 2009, 16:46   #42
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Look they can't even sign their name right.

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Re: Fix the ****ing

I've taken a while to think about the situation and there is simply no good faith basis for thinking this won't happen again or that the issue behind it has been diagnosed, much less resolved. In that scenario how can I, or anyone, justify the amount of time they put into the game only to be frustrated again?
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Unread 5 Feb 2009, 17:04   #45
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Re: Fix the ****ing

i do not see the logic behind recalling fleets as the only ones who MIGHT be injured are those who doesnt log in to recall their fleet. So let them crash then? thats their own fault and i bet they would crash if the game didnt break down aswell.
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Unread 5 Feb 2009, 17:22   #46
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No - the ones who might be injured are those who have already recalled their fleets but then that recall is cancelled by the roll-back.
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No - the ones who might be injured are those who have already recalled their fleets but then that recall is cancelled by the roll-back.
What about the ones who have their attacks ****ed up?
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Unread 5 Feb 2009, 17:32   #48
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What about the ones who have their attacks ****ed up?
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Yes there will be winners and losers from recalling fleets - but there can be NO excuse for risking players losing fleets that they believed they had safely recalled.
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Unread 5 Feb 2009, 17:51   #49
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Re: Fix the ****ing

Opening the game now with the ticker stopped till tomorrow would easily be a solution to your argument.
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Unread 5 Feb 2009, 18:08   #50
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Re: Fix the ****ing

**** this ****ing crap, this shit is just ****ing us over time and time again.. give us a ****ing refund, restart or something else to sort this ****ing shit out...

so much time wasted on getting screwed (AND NOT IN THE GOOD WAY!)...

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