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Unread 10 Jun 2009, 14:42   #201
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Re: Worst ever political PA decisions!!!

what?! my dear lovely lars ( elviz ) in a pa cheating scandal?!

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Unread 10 Jun 2009, 15:02   #202
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Re: Worst ever political PA decisions!!!

this is worse than that time i found out santa claus didnt exist
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The #1 Planet Rank is never decided by the best player or by the best player in the winning alliance. Its always underhanded tactics whichs wins it the player or indeed loses it.
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Unread 10 Jun 2009, 15:35   #204
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Re: Worst ever political PA decisions!!!

I think underhanded tactics are awesome to be honest. Actually breaking the rules isn't cool though.
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Unread 10 Jun 2009, 15:48   #205
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/me senses lovetriangle between wish fox n' fars
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Re: Worst ever political PA decisions!!!

I must say that Light and its opinions/arguments is one of the funniest things I've ever seen in this game.

(dunno if he or a she)
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Unread 10 Jun 2009, 16:28   #207
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I must say that Light and its opinions/arguments is one of the funniest things I've ever seen in this game.

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I'm sorry, ive seen the Light now.. Pun intended.

xVx has made the worst decision in PA ever.. The decision to nap Asc has caused nothing but arguments, emo-quits and even close to xVx disbanding. All our planets got bashed and roided, we lost the #1 galaxy and #1 planet, our defence fell apart, our HC went inactive, and we wont be playing next round.

o wait, none of that happend. The decision to nap Asc, has caused no arguments or emo-quits. The alliance has been doing well and has easily achieved the #1 galaxy rank while also should achieve the #1 planet rank. Everyone was happy, everything in xVx is fine.
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Unread 10 Jun 2009, 19:36   #208
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Yeah i would, might achieve more in a speedgame than DLR did this round. Oh wait they did support a xVx planet to planet win. lol.
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The decision to nap Asc, has caused no arguments or emo-quits. The alliance has been doing well and has easily achieved the #1 galaxy rank while also should achieve the #1 planet rank. Everyone was happy, everything in xVx is fine.
strange, i keep hearing how pissed off your members are (how long they remain your members is the live question).

so when is xvx kicking LDK? why not now, especially as it makes not difference to you 'winning' 2nd place, it would send a clear message about your intentions next round if you did.
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Re: Worst ever political PA decisions!!!

Light,


If you mean xvx won galaxy because they have so many members in 10:4, that is a fair arguement, but you are forgetting that there are other alliances represented aswell.

10:4 holds:
7 members of Toot
6 members of xVx
1 member of Orbit

In my opinion, galaxy wins does not belong to any particular alliance, but the galaxy members. By reading your statement, Orbit has just as much claim on the galaxy win as xVx or Toot!
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Unread 10 Jun 2009, 20:42   #211
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Re: Worst ever political PA decisions!!!

tbh

gal with 7 toot and 6 xvx players in it this round = no incs during the round most prolly

which means, this gal dosent deserve to b named as galwin :P

PS: IM really sorry if im hurting someone`s feelings with this statement, and i didnt check sandmans :S (my own mistake if im wrong here).. its nothing personal, just an opinion
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Unread 10 Jun 2009, 20:50   #212
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tbh

gal with 7 toot and 6 xvx players in it this round = no incs during the round most prolly

which means, this gal dosent deserve to b named as galwin :P

PS: IM really sorry if im hurting someone`s feelings with this statement, and i didnt check sandmans :S (my own mistake if im wrong here).. its nothing personal, just an opinion
They got alot of incs at the start of the round seemed to be hit almost everynight lol
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Unread 10 Jun 2009, 22:44   #213
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They got alot of incs at the start of the round seemed to be hit almost everynight lol
10:4 had negative growth on 4 nights all round...

last time they went into the red was the 20th of May

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they were hit 3 times from the 1st to the 6th of may and the 3rd time they were hit (the 6th) they were down a total of 40 roids

after the 6th they were not hit for a full 2 weeks and showed pretty strong growth every single night.

As neroon said, they were a galaxy that were very strategically fenced and this helped them avoid incs. Does this get them the #1 rank..yes. Does it mean they earned it? no
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Re: Worst ever political PA decisions!!!

They earned it because they got very lucky concerning alliances represented ingal, but also because that is a gal of very good and active players. A gal like that will always do well.
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Unread 10 Jun 2009, 23:11   #215
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Very definitely would
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10:4 had negative growth on 4 nights all round...

As neroon said, they were a galaxy that were very strategically fenced and this helped them avoid incs. Does this get them the #1 rank..yes. Does it mean they earned it? no
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10:4 had negative growth on 4 nights all round...

last time they went into the red was the 20th of May

total round roids - 51684
total roids lost - 6985

they were hit 3 times from the 1st to the 6th of may and the 3rd time they were hit (the 6th) they were down a total of 40 roids

after the 6th they were not hit for a full 2 weeks and showed pretty strong growth every single night.

As neroon said, they were a galaxy that were very strategically fenced and this helped them avoid incs. Does this get them the #1 rank..yes. Does it mean they earned it? no
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Yeah Mek, using logic to counter a woman...
what are you thinking? :/
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Re: Worst ever political PA decisions!!!

hardly jealously, i would rather be in my current gal than the #1 galaxy. Sexytime galaxy is more awesome :-)

end of the day, what do you get for being #1 galaxy?

you get to give up your friday night out socialising to spend it at the EoRC talking about how awesome the players in your galaxy were at dealing with the minimal incommings you had all round. They then move on to talk about the alliance win and you are once again thrust back into obscurity after your 5 minutes of fame.

Sure you can put it into your sig about being the xx named galaxy who won round 31 of planetarion, but at the end of the day, nobody remembers you, because nobody cares about the galaxy rank.

It may boost your standing in the community, but then again...can't we all perform well in a round where we get no incommings? :P
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ok where is all those shit ppl from bgs whos whining ???

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Sure you can put it into your sig about being the xx named galaxy who won round 31 of planetarion, but at the end of the day, nobody remembers you, because nobody cares about the galaxy rank.
galaxy win is a nice achievement. after spending a round in a galaxy with people theres a good chance youll see them as friends and to share victory is cool. its a nice medium between p-rank personal glory and ally rank where you're just a tiny piece of a larger puzzle
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galaxy win is a nice achievement. after spending a round in a galaxy with people theres a good chance youll see them as friends and to share victory is cool. its a nice medium between p-rank personal glory and ally rank where you're just a tiny piece of a larger puzzle
my point, perhaps a little bit poorly articulated, is that the galaxy rank is not a representation of the quality of the members. The galaxy rank is merely a representation of which galaxy has managed to build the most successful fence of the round.

as shown earlier in this thread, the current winning galaxy have not had a hard time for the vast majority of the round. Why are they held up on a pedestal of greatness by light etc when they havent really had to work for it.

we can all get a galaxy to win the galaxy rankings if we dont get incs :P
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Re: Worst ever political PA decisions!!!

The current #1 galaxy has a lot of the members of the #2 galaxy of last round. I think noone in their right mind thinks that they are up there because of some freakish accident. What everyone also realizes is that they did have an easy ride to the top.
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Re: Worst ever political PA decisions!!!

I can't believe any set of players would think their galaxy is better on any objective level than the LDK galaxy this round to be honest. They've got a solid set of players, worked hard to get at their opponents and pretty much pissed on any kind of incoming that's come their way. On top of that they are leading by a clear margin on the roids and score front.

Galaxy rank doesn't usually represent quality as it oft relies on incomings and other factors. However, it's not as if 9 1 (for example) are badly positioned politically either and I think on this occasion, we probably have a clear winner on the galaxy front.

Oddly this might be one round where the galaxy rank is probably of more credibility than the alliance one. Normally it's the alliance one that's of greatest prestige, as for alliances, it's usually far more difficult to win. I don't think any alliance can claim any glory from winning this round.
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my point, perhaps a little bit poorly articulated, is that the galaxy rank is not a representation of the quality of the members. The galaxy rank is merely a representation of which galaxy has managed to build the most successful fence of the round.

as shown earlier in this thread, the current winning galaxy have not had a hard time for the vast majority of the round. Why are they held up on a pedestal of greatness by light etc when they havent really had to work for it.

we can all get a galaxy to win the galaxy rankings if we dont get incs :P
The top ranked players and top ranked galaxys, very rarely get alot of incs. Take alook at the other top5 galaxys and how many times they've been on negative growth.
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Just because it relies on a lot of variables including political factors does not detract from the win. Alliance ranks and planet ranks do equally, Many Asc and xVx players will be in the rankings higher than a DLR or Evo of equal skill who might have played harder but was in the wrong alliance.

PA is a game of Politics; play your politics right and you do well, the gal win reflects this.
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The top ranked players and top ranked galaxys, very rarely get alot of incs. Take alook at the other top5 galaxys and how many times they've been on negative growth.
Yeah, except you can easily be in positive roid growth at the start (and later) despite getting inc. My gal had incs 6 days in a row and every second night before/after that untill pt 700.. Pretty sure a graph will show this better, both of the gal and my own planet. But yeah, totally easy ride. 10:4 had 2 weak gal raids in the first 5 days, after that only the asc planets recieved inc, and only on 1 or 2 nights. Not sure about 9:1, might be even less. Very big difference between those 2 and the other top5 gals in terms of incoming, there is ofc also a big difference in terms of score.
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Theam: It's actually only carDi and me from last rounds 6:1 in this rounds 10:4.
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Theam: It's actually only carDi and me from last rounds 6:1 in this rounds 10:4.
Yeah more people from 5:6 than from 6:1..

Also, interestingly, 6 people who were omen last round and only 4 who were in asc.
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xVx has made the worst decision in PA ever.. The decision to nap Asc has caused nothing but arguments, emo-quits and even close to xVx disbanding. All our planets got bashed and roided, we lost the #1 galaxy and #1 planet, our defence fell apart, our HC went inactive, and we wont be playing next round.

o wait, none of that happend. The decision to nap Asc, has caused no arguments or emo-quits. The alliance has been doing well and has easily achieved the #1 galaxy rank while also should achieve the #1 planet rank. Everyone was happy, everything in xVx is fine.
Considering the NAP caused a lot of arguments and fall outs within xVx channels and lots of members became disgruntled, being so annoyed that they actually attacked with others, deffed against there own alliance, bitched about there alliance I hard think you have ANY ideal whatsoever on what you're talking about Light.
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Considering the NAP caused a lot of arguments and fall outs within xVx channels and lots of members became disgruntled, being so annoyed that they actually attacked with others, deffed against there own alliance, bitched about there alliance I hard think you have ANY ideal whatsoever on what you're talking about Light.
Every single alliance has members which get annoyed at anything.

There has been no arguments and fallouts within xVx channels, I havent seen one proper argument yet.. except ones ive caused due to boredem. Infact, the only mention of the nap in priv channels comes from me when i provoke cardinal

Members from alliances always attack with other people, 100% of Asc members dont join Asc attacks, same for xVx, same for most alliances.

We've had 2 cases of people defending against each other, that im aware of (which caused arguments) and thats one person defending against me due to them not realising i was xVx and me defending against henrik as i didnt arby check before defending.

and people always bitch, its human nature.


So i think you're being misled by someone, or someone just got angry and decided to feed you alot of BS. Either way, you're wrong.
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Re: Worst ever political PA decisions!!!

Worst Political decision of round personally was xvx attacking/raping 10:6 while i was stil #1
not quite sure what happened but was certainly
Still had fun round considerin my original plan was to fakenick in some small ally and help teach noobs. As if Cardi was gonna let me win after our bp incident of round 22 or so hahaha. Can still understand why the bgs were pissed off with xvx i persionnally thought we could have carried on hitting asc for longer but ah well people get paid far more than me to make these decisions... AH WAIT THEY DONT THERE LITHS!


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Re: Worst ever political PA decisions!!!

agree with londo and others who mention that getting the politics right is a huge part of this game. fencing isnt simple as to get the fence right requires assessing the politics pre round and guessing correctly which way things will turn out

of course when you're HC of one of the only 2 allies capable of winning and the NAP which hands you the gal win is also the nap which prevents your ally from certain victory (with the ally you just left after playing their for multiple rounds) one could question the ethics of said HC
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agree with londo and others who mention that getting the politics right is a huge part of this game. fencing isnt simple as to get the fence right requires assessing the politics pre round and guessing correctly which way things will turn out

of course when you're HC of one of the only 2 allies capable of winning and the NAP which hands you the gal win is also the nap which prevents your ally from certain victory (with the ally you just left after playing their for multiple rounds) one could question the ethics of said HC
Are you implying that Cardinal is ethically challenged?

It's a bit difficult to read between the lines there. But I think you are.
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sorta. i am saying its quite interesting how the xvx/asc nap gave 10.4 certain victory whilst also seemingly costing xvx the alliance tag win (which they looked certain to get before the nap)

ofc it would be stupid to jump to conclusions and say cardinals behavious here is questionable as i dont know the circumstances under which the xvx/asc nap came about ie. who proposed it, who negotiated it, who was arguing for and against it on the xvx side etc

maybe cardi had nothing to do with it...
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i am still waiting for asc people to leave the tag so that xvx can have #1, as promised. (as many as it takes right? )

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asc are attacking santacruz atm so i cant see that happening
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what about the nap breaking kila?
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what about the nap breaking kila?
ye xvx shouldnt have hit shazna, i totally agree with you..
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sorta. i am saying its quite interesting how the xvx/asc nap gave 10.4 certain victory whilst also seemingly costing xvx the alliance tag win (which they looked certain to get before the nap)

ofc it would be stupid to jump to conclusions and say cardinals behavious here is questionable as i dont know the circumstances under which the xvx/asc nap came about ie. who proposed it, who negotiated it, who was arguing for and against it on the xvx side etc

maybe cardi had nothing to do with it...

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the circumstances of the nap were basically a drunk irishman and a stoned lith talking on irc together, leaving out any details.

later on xvx publicly declined any form of asc kicking members.
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epic lulz, well played xvx!
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ye xvx shouldnt have hit shazna, i totally agree with you..
so xvx both epically failed and broke their nap.

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