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Unread 3 Apr 2009, 14:57   #51
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The irony is that you're saying that to mz.
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Re: R31 rumour thread

The irony is the irony used.

All fun though... anyone for a game of pong?
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We've been discussing things in private channel and as a result we decided not to play next round nor the upcoming summer round afterwards. We will be back with a total revamped Destiny in Round 33. Lots of Changes have been made already and its gonna be a great adventure once all related things been discussed and stuff such as tech have been done. So long!

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Did vgn hc not say they would disband vgn if asc won 3 in a row ?
No, they (me) said I won't play next round and won't lead the alliance anymore. Communities can't be disbanded, usually someone steps up and so they did.
No idea what 'bible' you talk about, the vgn ruleset is pretty simple and basically what common sense states anyway (don't attack napped planets, don't defend against own ally, 'no random attacks' probably being the most discussable one), intel is available to everyone via various ways, e.g. irc !whois x:y:z or just paste a JGP or galaxy status to the parser and see the list as a result.
However, I failed, Asc won another round and my members are unhappy for various reasons, quite a few left, some of them even for the dark side. Someone else will take over.
On the other hand all this could just be an excuse for me to finally get reasonable sleeping times again. As the topic is rumours I won't be that specific here.
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However, I failed, Asc won another round and my members are unhappy for various reasons, quite a few left, some of them even for the dark side. Someone else will take over.
Do you not think that VgN would have had a better round if they had focused more on winning themselves? I'm not saying this was an especially likely scenario but I do think it's preferable to telling your members that you are playing solely to try and make someone else lose. There is little consolation in being mutual losers after all. I think last round could have been made that little bit closer had alliances such as Omen and VgN been a little more savvy and allowed fencers like CT to take the strain at certain times. Of course hindsight is 20/20 and all that.
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Re: R31 rumour thread

Rumours speak of a great storm rising from beyond, of a battle of epic scope and scale, yet to be fought in the bleakness of space. Of men and women who've traversed great distances to seek to strike a blow at the might of those whom are of ascendant nature. To seek to rally those who sleep, unite in battle for glory nigh surpassed and tear down the walls of tyranny, to replace tyranny with light and to hold back the shades of night. Walk wearily my friends, dawn is breaking.
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Do you not think that VgN would have had a better round if they had focused more on winning themselves?
Might be. Or if we made an attempt to finish #N.
We are well aware about our members activity and this is why we know we won't win a round unless everyone else drops dead. For the past 26 rounds getting roids from the #1 alliance had been a big part of our politics and strategies, no matter who it was. Recently it has always been the same though.
Bit like formula 1, season ends, Michael Schumacher wins until he quits himself. That's boring and people stop playing/watching because of that.
We don't want to be bored. It is more like a habit atm and I have made it a habit more and more.
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Bit like formula 1, season ends, Michael Schumacher wins until he quits himself. That's boring and people stop playing/watching because of that.
We don't want to be bored. It is more like a habit atm and I have made it a habit more and more.
Bit of a bad analogy since we're playing and not watching, i doubt it was always boring for the other formula 1 teams chasing that elusive #1 spot, but for the general public who see the same thing each season? can get kind of repetitive.
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Re: R31 rumour thread

i heard SPQR are not coming back which is a shame, they was the best noob alliance ever!
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i heard SPQR are not coming back which is a shame, they was the best noob alliance ever!
they merged with Dark Warriors many rounds ago and the leaderships kind of fragmented, i don't think they ever got it back, though i did see them a couple of rounds ago try and make something of it
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Rumours says, I left CT for joining FAnG.
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Re: R31 rumour thread

i predict the easiest roundvictory EVER for asc.

i predict ct and nd napping asc!

and i predict wish and me going inactive around tick 700!
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tick 700? optimistic.
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Can't possibly think any other round winners apart from ascendancy. The alliance is FAR beyond anything else into this game at this point. Not only that, but thx to game creators / stat masters of whom are behind unbelievably insane salvage system, we have 1 force that is way better compared to every1 else out there, enjoying and exploiting the system failures. r30 pretty much was a repeat of the first asc round where they manipulated round win via ridiculous xp. Back then it was about mass XP, today it's about mass salvage. Well I suppose any1 "back from the day" can realise there are some serious flaws in the mechanisms when rounds are won by defensive lines instead of offensive superiority as it once was.

I've never completely grasped all this asc-hype. Alltho the particular group is above standards within the remnants of current PA community, I've seen & been part of groups which do compete / top, the quality seen there.

I'll part my semiactive post-PAX career again for another 10 rounds or so. Maybe, within that time I hope we've a decent game, sensible game creators and hopefully, just hopefully above 1k planets.

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Well I suppose any1 "back from the day" can realise there are some serious flaws in the mechanisms when rounds are won by defensive lines instead of offensive superiority as it once was.
*grumble grumble* Things were better in my day *grumble* I remember when the real players could control 14 planets in 7 foot of snow with nought but a xylophone and a cracked twig *grumble*

**** OFF GRANDAD.

However, if you can find your reading glasses this might interest you. Total launches (attack over defence) by the Top3 alliances:

<Appocomaster> 1st place ally
<Appocomaster> | 10703 | 1 |
<Appocomaster> | 7450 | 2 |
<Appocomaster> 2nd place ally
<Appocomaster> | 6235 | 1 |
<Appocomaster> | 5571 | 2 |
<Appocomaster> 3rd place
<Appocomaster> | 7181 | 1 |
<Appocomaster> | 6543 | 2 |
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Heh i couldn't care much less about sum nobodywannabe having a "grumble" day.

I always said and i still stand by the fact asc was the best alliance, best system exploiter and so forth.

Gratz for winning a round.

I'm gonna excuse myself to go feast on eastern. Have a fine day @ pirate.planetarion.com!
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Er liz I think you'll find you're the one bitching on the forums and we're the ones who kicked your ass ingame. Happy Easter!
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I don't think you read my post but thank you for the ever so gracious congratulations nonetheless. This was (I believe) the eighth alliance win I've participated in (how awesome must I be!) which I think gives me a little perspective on comparing winning alliances from across the years. I suspect if you could get over your bitterness you might realise that alliances way back when weren't these awesome mythological entities you seem to believe they were and that, in fact, Ascendancy (for all it's apparent faults) is one of the best alliances to ever play the game. Don't be such a sore loser old chap, it just re-enforces all those negative Dragons stereotypes after all.
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*grumble grumble* Things were better in my day *grumble* I remember when the real players could control 14 planets in 7 foot of snow with nought but a xylophone and a cracked twig *grumble*

**** OFF GRANDAD.

However, if you can find your reading glasses this might interest you. Total launches (attack over defence) by the Top3 alliances:

<Appocomaster> 1st place ally
<Appocomaster> | 10703 | 1 |
<Appocomaster> | 7450 | 2 |
<Appocomaster> 2nd place ally
<Appocomaster> | 6235 | 1 |
<Appocomaster> | 5571 | 2 |
<Appocomaster> 3rd place
<Appocomaster> | 7181 | 1 |
<Appocomaster> | 6543 | 2 |
Since your so kind. Please break it down into average by members?
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I suspect that is not really possible as there are things we dont know about how those numbers were arrived at
1, does it include all members in tag or recruits too?
2, does it include launches of a planet that ends up in tag from when he was not in tag (ie could include launching for another alliance)?

if it is simply all launches from all planets that ended in a certain tag then you can get out your calculator and do it yourself
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Also where was DLR in that!!
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Nowhere. You barely had any planets in t20 launchers
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im not able to irc right now but how about you ask appoco about the stat :o
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2	any means necessary 	5:6:6 	302
3	Shinhae 	6:1:5 	289
4	OuZo 	10:5:2 	287
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Nowhere.
not anywhere; in or at or to no place; "I am going nowhere"

Thats interesting because DLR played round 30 and we were refering to r30 alliance launches. So what i pose to you, naive Mr.Kila, is that DLR was indeed somewhere on this list, as it would be impossible for DLR to be "nowhere", therefore you statement, even for you, is just plain stupid.

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Barely any planets in the t20 launchers? So thats implies we had some. and considering we only had 18 members at end of round, lets say for instance we have 3 in the t20 launchers. Thats 17% (rounded up) of DLR's memberbase in the t20. There the would barely really is inappropriate in line you used it in.

Please think before posting Kila.
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None...
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Gah. Im not sure which is worse. CBA trying to post intelligent, and copy/pasting other peoples lines, or CBA talking gibberish.
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I am a fan of new CBA. I still disagree with him sometimes but not at least now I always understand what he's trying to say. It's a lot better for my e-rage this way.
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How many was it?
none in top 20 interestingly enough. Although that Skynet shouldn't count in my opinion as it seems he/she just plays for that ranking!! haha

I really should not find out the top 100 at this time, so much work to do. But I will find out later I guess.
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The problem Kila is that, you didn't know, you just made false assumptions. And I'm not being pretentious. The reason I post the way I do now, isn't really because I've dramatically changed in an attempt to make claim to post intelligent convosation or wanting to impress others. I just dont have as much fun in flaming, being a jerk anymore. So I guess its all to do with maturity, heh, who knows.

Anyways Kila, I find you really irresponsible and immature, just acting a jerk all the time. Therefore I will put you in the same category as JungleMuffin and continuously ignore your responses.
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If we're having a pretentious fest I'm going to see Waiting for Godot in the next month or so.

Otherwise we can drop the argument and get on with the discussion.

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So thats implies we had some. and considering we only had 18 members at end of round
who is we? normally when people say 'we,' they're referring to alliances that they're actually in, not alliances they were kicked from before round end
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who is we? normally when people say 'we,' they're referring to alliances that they're actually in, not alliances they were kicked from before round end
Meh, now you're being pedantic and small-minded. CBA is within his full rights to identify with DLR. CBA was in Ascendancy much shorter than he was in DLR, but he ended the round with us. Does that somehow make him 'more' Ascendancy than DLR? I think not. (This wasn't an argument for the opposite.)

As you may have noticed, his point was already debunked (not a single DLR in the top20 launchers). There's no need to get personal just because you were righter than you thought.
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Meh, now you're being pedantic and small-minded. CBA is within his full rights to identify with DLR. CBA was in Ascendancy much shorter than he was in DLR, but he ended the round with us. Does that somehow make him 'more' Ascendancy than DLR? I think not. (This wasn't an argument for the opposite.)

As you may have noticed, his point was already debunked (not a single DLR in the top20 launchers). There's no need to get personal just because you were righter than you thought.
I think the point is that he's referring to DLR's low member count, identifying himself with them and then not counting himself when he makes a point about the low member count...

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You call them false assumptions but they're pretty accurate? (also not assumptions but whatever floats your boat man)


Anyway, back to round 31 rumours. I hear that Fang are aiming to survive until pt 649, just to shit on Ascendancy's parade.

Who is actually likely to be competing? From what I've heard both CT and ND have lost a chunk of their players and Omen aren't around. We're all expecting two of these BGs playing seperately to merge and go for #1 at some point, Ascendancy will be playing for the win again (maybe not to the same capacity of last round but still competing), and then there are Angels...
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there are going to be 500 little BG's that are going to get farmed to oblivion from t300 and either disband and crawl back to their old allies, or merge into eachother to form one big mediocre tag of shit
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Anyone able to name the alliances/BG's playing for sure next round?
Just wondering how many of them are there.
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hmm, from what I know so far.

smal allies playing next round

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any other projects with less than 30-40 members around for next round I forgot about, or not heard about? probably!
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Killerbee has a "project", as does Kenny apparently.

You guys do realise that the only reason DLR managed to do so well this round was because of the political climate and shit? With everyone joining these "leet bg"s the big allies will just be able to bully them as there won't be as vigorous a fight for #1 ally...
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Killerbee has a "project", as does Kenny apparently.

You guys do realise that the only reason DLR managed to do so well this round was because of the political climate and shit? With everyone joining these "leet bg"s the big allies will just be able to bully them as there won't be as vigorous a fight for #1 ally...
killerbee also? didnt know! and ye, I knew about kennys effort also, forgot about it.

did DLR do well? didnt get top planet, or top gal. Didnt get top avg score ( afaik ). How do u define if a smal ally do well anyway? DLR had little impact last round, as they decided to stay out most of the round.
I also believe all are competent enough to know that DLR got the roids they did because there was war 24/7 last round.
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Who else is involved then venox!
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Re: R31 rumour thread

killerbee's project is top secret, Kila; you're not supposed to tell people Also from what I last heard, the KB Projekt isn't going to be as big as the likes of DLR... so leave them alone

Also, I abandoned my idea for a BG shortly after deciding to run one. Coming up with ideas is one thing - having the patience/motivation to see them through is another.

Also I concurr with the vulnerability that BGs are going to be under. Personally, I think that all these BGs should keep an open line of communication at all times. Like #alliances... but #battlegroups or something of equal originality.

At the end of the day, if you have all the BGs working together; EVEN if they managed to get up to 180 people - they'd have enough fleets to attack the likes of Asc, but still be f*cked when it came to def.

BGs are a great idea and they seem to be attracting the right kind of mentality that people should be applying to the game... but without the defensive benefits of a full tag I don't forsee them doing as well as DLR did last round. If you had 3 BGs of 30 playing under one tag, THAT would be a tag capable of winning.

But that's never going to happen as there'd be too much bickering over power/control of the tag... BGs falling out with each other and quitting... I personally would like to see the round length reduced to 6 weeks, as it's not like there's going to be any other winner than Ascendancy this round.

Lets just get R31 over and done with, shall we?
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I doubt there is any alliance big enough for venoxs ego!
So he is clearly playing solo, in his little bg or whatever it is.
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Did DLR not defend? Because if they did, then they weren't a BG but simply a small alliance. Which is pretty much what expect these new groups to be.
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Re: R31 rumour thread

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Originally Posted by Kenny View Post

BGs are a great idea and they seem to be attracting the right kind of mentality that people should be applying to the game... but without the defensive benefits of a full tag I don't forsee them doing as well as DLR did last round. If you had 3 BGs of 30 playing under one tag, THAT would be a tag capable of winning.
Even in a full tag, BG's are a burden in some aspects. Particularly if they start getting snooty about the rest of the tag and decide to defend only people in the BG, as opposed to their other alliance mates.

All this BG behaviour shows is that either people aren't running alliances well, or the people involved aren't really capable of running one.
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