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Unread 13 Aug 2006, 19:15   #401
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Re: Congratulations eXilition

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I must have missed that. I assume you only put 3 or 4 1ups on your target list?



I'm sure eXilition won't mind you having thier scraps again. It's not like you could do the job yourself now, is it?

yous only had 36 planets worth roiding... you had 10+ planets below 200 roids.

Not as 1up can do the job itself now
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Subh roids magically grow just like the mushrooms, not as if we are at the point where subh has to init them back now is it
We started specifically targetting you on saturday. (with your roid count not as if you would get much random incs off us)

The feedback I got from my members from target picking was "ffs they dont have much in the way of roids. Once you get some more we'll take them back off you when you are fit for target picking.
That's a lot of arrogance from the man who runs the alliance having the fence so far up their ass their organs consider it to be a part of their body, towards the alliance that fought for everything they were worth for so many rounds now.

1up may have lost from eXi again, but they fought, again. You should really drop the arrogance seeing your alliance hasn't actually achieved anything this round, other than making sure that for next round your political landscape concerning possibilities changed from WTC to ground zero.
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yous only had 36 planets worth roiding... you had 10+ planets below 200 roids.
With 20% of your alliances roids being housed at 9 planets (with 1 shipjumping piss bag having over 10% of your alliances roids) and only 24 planets (including these 9) having more than 400 roids you can hardly lay claim to being a bunch of fatties now, can you?

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Not as 1up can do the job itself now
What? What job? Were you dropped on your head as a child?
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yous only had 36 planets worth roiding... you had 10+ planets below 200 roids.

Not as 1up can do the job itself now
If I* can manage to constantly own subh and have your members being too shitscared of maybe losing roids so that they keep their fleets completed grounded, I am sure 1up can easily **** you over in a one on one right now** (in case that that is the job you are fantasizing about).

*unpaid account with only ~500k fleetvalue in total and logging in on only twice a day for about 10 minutes each to pick targets & check attacks before landing.

**I sadly believe that this situation won't occur with exilition roiding whatever galaxy they can roid without breaking planet naps at the moment and omen catching up fastly.
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If I* can manage to constantly own subh and have your members being too shitscared of maybe losing roids so that they keep their fleets completed grounded, I am sure 1up can easily **** you over in a one on one right now** (in case that that is the job you are fantasizing about).

*unpaid account with only ~500k fleetvalue in total and logging in on only twice a day for about 10 minutes each to pick targets & check attacks before landing.

**I sadly believe that this situation won't occur with exilition roiding whatever galaxy they can roid without breaking planet naps at the moment and omen catching up fastly.
They have been giving it their best shot over the weekend.
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They have been giving it their best shot over the weekend.
Can you sponsor me a credit then so that I can mine all roids I am going to cap from your members?
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Can you sponsor me a credit then so that I can mine all roids I am going to cap from your members?
I think the reason why you didnt get a credit because you didnt fancy the odds this round. (not as if 1up couldnt spare a credit from last round winnings)
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I think the reason why you didnt get a credit because you didnt fancy the odds this round. (not as if 1up couldnt spare a credit from last round winnings)
I am certain the reason I don't have a credit is that I did not expect to be able to achieve as much as I did since I started hitting your members combined with a lack of willingness to put any kind of effort into this game.
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I am certain the reason I don't have a credit is that I did not expect to be able to achieve as much as I did since I started hitting your members combined with a lack of willingness to put any kind of effort into this game.
cry me a river
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There.
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There.

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Theres always a risk of people turning on you, you ****ing moron. Thats called politics. The whole point is to outmanouvre them. You had a fantastic chance of finishing 1st but you pissed it away because the mere thought of incoming had you pissing in your pants.
To be fair to Subh, they are in a very difficult situation. One that ND have been in repeatedly, in fact. If your military is not up to scratch, you are going to seriously struggle to win a round of PA. In fact, I can only think of 3 routes to victory for such an alliance, and ND have failed at 2 of them in previous rounds.

I can only hope Subh will get 2nd this time, and decide that they want to do better in future.

I still think it was shit of them this round, but I don't know how much HCing experience Ali/Paisley have outside of Subh... hopefully there will be more learning.
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The manner they are doing it in was far less inevitable than ND in either situation, as one the universe collapsed and joined 1up's ally, in the second ND actually led the game (and dare i say it, trying to win!) and got caught by XP, which when Asc won with it suddenly became an 'XPloit'.

While people might see them as similar, I can see why subh is being quite provacative. But yes, they probably don't think they have much of a choice. From my point of view, if they don't even achieve 2nd, there will be a very long queue of people laughing at subh. As Paisley is lording it up bigtime, he can be rest assured that if he gets done, it's only fair that he can expect a similar amount of stick back.
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I am wondering if Cryptic has somehow got hold of Paisleys forum account, and is having great fun
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I am wondering if Cryptic has somehow got hold of Paisleys forum account, and is having great fun
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Who and why that thread?
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Who and why that thread?
This thread? Coz if it's Cryptic... well, Patrician always has fun "discussing" with/about Cryptic, hehe.
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I'm not sure why it's wierd at all. My position has ALWAYS been that I LIKE planet naps when other people do them - but not when people on my side take them.
THE reason why i never informed 1up about their members asking for planet naps with us (in the past ofc )
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would be sort of tough to say, "we're going to be inactive this round" before you know your going to be inactive wouldn't it? Some alliances go into a round knowing that they will be at a lower intensity level, 1up however never approaches a round with anything less than #1 in it's sights. The fact is, the activity this round wasn't what it needed to be, or has been. It's not an excuse, simply a point of fact.
To be fair i think its heavy incoming and fleetcatches that makes players quit and/or go inactive, everyones happy when theyre winning So id say its no coincidence that 1ups 'least active' rounds were those in which ex played, maybe just one part of many contributing factors thou...
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To be fair i think its heavy incoming and fleetcatches that makes players quit and/or go inactive, everyones happy when theyre winning So id say its no coincidence that 1ups 'least active' rounds were those in which ex played, maybe just one part of many contributing factors thou...
I'm fairly sure he didn't cast any assertions to other rounds in terms of activity, just this one. Chipz^ was correct in his assessment of 1up military not even being close to the same capacity as rounds gone by.

1up have had large incoming and attempted fleetcatches every round btw but activity has been on a steady decline for some time now. This is essentially why the tactic of not playing every round pays off so much. This way there is never stagnation amongst members and always something to go that extra yard for. You're welcome to try and take credit for it if you like but the truth is that it's been coming for several rounds now, whether eX play or not.
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To be fair i think its heavy incoming and fleetcatches that makes players quit and/or go inactive, everyones happy when theyre winning So id say its no coincidence that 1ups 'least active' rounds were those in which ex played, maybe just one part of many contributing factors thou...
The issue isnt people who went inacactive after 1up lost the war(though we certainly have those people), we are talking about people who were inactive before and during the early stages of that war before the heavy incoming and fleetcatches took thier toll. People or at least experienced people, dont mind incoming or fleetcatches when thier alliance is also succeeding in battle. The problem with 1up this round is that members of the command/officer staff did not live up to their committments and member activity was not up to par so our war attempt was lame. This was a far bigger hurt to morale than getting roided by exi ever could be.

Of course it isnt a coincidence that rounds where 1up gets bashed aren't its most active. And of course it isnt a coincidence that 1up faces problems with complacency after winning a round (something im sure exi takes into account).

But that all goes without saying and has little to do with how poorly 1up's military machine ran pretty much from the start of the round.

Everyone can see that exilition did a great job this round, everyone can see thier dedication and organization paying off. I couldnt say with great confidence that wed have beaten exill if we had our shit together, but the fact remains that we didnt have our shit together.
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You didn't notice the fact that lokken editted his post then?
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Re: Congratulations eXilition

i have to say exil **** ed 1up or 1up where not trying hard i was hopeing it was going to be a good war.....but looks like exil are just to good as when you look at 1ups roids what do they have left.....
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i have to say exil **** ed 1up or 1up where not trying hard i was hopeing it was going to be a good war.....but looks like exil are just to good as when you look at 1ups roids what do they have left.....
The question is how such a low average roid count can still satisfy exilition, omen and subh for targets
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The question is how such a low average roid count can still satisfy exilition, omen and subh for targets ;)
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The question is how such a low average roid count can still satisfy exilition, omen and subh for targets
they are like weeds just can not get them away lol
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there is not much in it

2 1up 26411 63 1,456,097 91,734,150
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subh omen or 1up may come 2nd we will find out soon............
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there is not much in it

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subh omen or 1up may come 2nd we will find out soon............
If it continues the way it is it will be 1 ex, 2 omen, 3 1up, 4 subh. Might be wrong on the last two, though, as it is apparently 1up facing incomings from eX/Omen mainly while subh pussy-foot around everything and keep on stockpiling with their sweet amount of roids
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Heartless where's the 'Congratulations 1up' thread?
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My feelings is it may end.

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That will be handed over at the end of the round as it seems that they weren't released from their torture yet.
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If it continues the way it is it will be 1 ex, 2 omen, 3 1up, 4 subh. Might be wrong on the last two, though, as it is apparently 1up facing incomings from eX/Omen mainly while subh pussy-foot around everything and keep on stockpiling with their sweet amount of roids
We haven't been targeting a special alliance during the last few days. I think last night we had no 1up targets at all but I might be wrong on that.

Even though 1up said they only care about rank 1 I still wish all alliances that take part in the "War for rank 2" good luck. Going to be alot of fun to watch it the last 2 weeks of the round.
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Even though 1up said they only care about rank 1 I still wish all alliances that take part in the "War for rank 2" good luck. Going to be alot of fun to watch it the last 2 weeks of the round.
From my own perspective there is only 1 war 95% of the people in 1up are interested in at the moment and that is against Subh. Our final rank no longer matters to me half so much as seeing Subh get pasted. So in that regard, good luck to Omen in overtaking them and presumably us aswell.

I don't imagine it should be too hard, eXilition seem determined to keep us below 30k roids and when Subh drop below that point Omen should have very little difficulty outscoring on value for the remaining weeks.
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From my own perspective there is only 1 war 95% of the people in 1up are interested in at the moment and that is against Subh. Our final rank no longer matters to me half so much as seeing Subh get pasted. So in that regard, good luck to Omen in overtaking them and presumably us aswell.

I don't imagine it should be too hard, eXilition seem determined to keep us below 30k roids and when Subh drop below that point Omen should have very little difficulty outscoring on value for the remaining weeks.
The other 5% is Zhil interested in Eve?
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i dont think omen will finish above subh, due to exil akmost certainly backing subh up.
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i dont think omen will finish above subh, due to exil akmost certainly backing subh up.
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Well I suppose 1up does have the XP factor.
ofc 1up has the XP factor all them FC make alot of XP what = there score is it not.....
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may i ask is the war still going on or have 1up run out of roids ???
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1up ran out of roids, so eX decided to break their various pnaps for absolutely no reason other than pathetic greed.

I've never really enjoyed pnaps even coming from my own alliance - but they are a huge help in terms of winning a round. Its things like breaking them just because you are just outside t20 in roidcount that really disgust me, and why I will never have any respect for eXilition.
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I suppose 1up has a military machine which subh has not. At least judging by the two nights when 1up had a chance to fight subh on their own.
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Its just funny that everyone who jumped on Omen is now below them. And the main bigmouths are out of the top 10. Ha
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If it continues the way it is it will be 1 ex, 2 omen, 3 1up, 4 subh. Might be wrong on the last two, though, as it is apparently 1up facing incomings from eX/Omen mainly while subh pussy-foot around everything and keep on stockpiling with their sweet amount of roids

Nit too sure what planet you live on, SUbh have been out attacking all round
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1up ran out of roids, so eX decided to break their various pnaps for absolutely no reason other than pathetic greed.

I've never really enjoyed pnaps even coming from my own alliance - but they are a huge help in terms of winning a round. Its things like breaking them just because you are just outside t20 in roidcount that really disgust me, and why I will never have any respect for eXilition.
Any agreement made with eXi is good for as long as eXi decide to honor it. If eXi decides to break the agreement you have 7-9 ticks notice before they land.

There once was a time when NoS was #1 and had a NAP with eXi not to attack but we all know how round 13 ended. Even when dealing with individuals things have not changed about eXi.
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Any agreement made with eXi is good for as long as eXi decide to honor it. If eXi decides to break the agreement you have 7-9 ticks notice before they land.

There once was a time when NoS was #1 and had a NAP with eXi not to attack but we all know how round 13 ended. Even when dealing with individuals things have not changed about eXi.

NoS was never ranked 1st in r13.
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Any agreement made with eXi is good for as long as eXi decide to honor it. If eXi decides to break the agreement you have 7-9 ticks notice before they land.

There once was a time when NoS was #1 and had a NAP with eXi not to attack but we all know how round 13 ended. Even when dealing with individuals things have not changed about eXi.
That's 100% bullshit. 24-hour notification of cancelation of NAPs is customary, historically, for all alliances in PA. Except, of course, when the planet breaks the NAP first--then no notification is nesseccary. The 1up Planet NAP system also has the same built in design mechanism, which they send you in an ingame mail stating that both parties can give 24 hours notice to violate the NAP for any reason. Ask 1up HC, though I'm suprised you didn't already know this. ^^

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Originally Posted by NitinA
That's 100% bullshit. 24-hour notification of cancelation of NAPs is customary, historically, for all alliances in PA. Except, of course, when the planet breaks the NAP first--then no notification is nesseccary. The 1up Planet NAP system also has the same built in design mechanism, which they send you in an ingame mail stating that both parties can give 24 hours notice to violate the NAP for any reason. Ask 1up HC, though I'm suprised you didn't already know this. ^^

-NitinA
Actually that isn't true for 1up PNAPs in the slightest. As far as I know, we've never cancelled an agreement without due cause.

I'd post 'proof' but that may be against my HC's wishes, since it is not openly public information.
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