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Unread 27 Apr 2008, 23:12   #1
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Given the recent rumours I've heard...

...I thought I'd clarify on here, for everyone, what I know to be the case. Now as I'm sure you're all aware tonight 6/7 (?) alliances are going to planet-target ascendancy for "cheating". There was no cheating. If anyone has told you there was they were either lying to you or they had been lied to themselves. If anyone wants to dispute that with me or point out cases of cheating I am not aware of you feel free to do so here or in fact anywhere (although my advice would be to go and talk to the multihunters). I sit here in eager anticipation. Don't let me down.
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Unread 27 Apr 2008, 23:14   #2
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Re: Given the recent rumours I've heard...

Well, I think they just fear us.. And use the cheating as an excuse.. We're 6th after all...
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Re: Given the recent rumours I've heard...

you're the biggest cheat of em all BA
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Re: Given the recent rumours I've heard...

let us know what they claim you have done?

Whats their reasons for ptargetting you guys?
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Re: Given the recent rumours I've heard...

although slightly unfair with it being so meny attacking alliances (if it is true) is not STOOMTHEREVIVAL's huge amount of roids not reason enough to hit them in a war game? particularly as STOOMTHEREVIVAL has managed to stay out of much of the conflict so far this round, and will probably manage from tomorrow as well.

1st in roids 6th in rank makes U an obvious target for roid hungry alliances imo
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Re: Given the recent rumours I've heard...

I'll kick off the refutations with this ingame message from xVx.

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This is about the only bit with any substance I've heard so far. At the start of this round I was given passwords to both CT and ND's websites. This, and you can trust me on this one, is not the first time this ever happened in pa history. How this translates into "breaking into" I have no real idea and if "breaking into" means something else it didn't happen. The hijacking game accounts bit is just laughably untrue and you could probably confirm this with a multihunter. Cudos to xVx on finally climbing down off the fence though!

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This is very true, and if this is the case I certainly have no objections, it is a war game after all. However what I object to is the spreading of vicious lies about what my alliance has done. Personally I fear that certain individuals, afraid to take us on one-to-one decided to create a pack of complete horseshit based on something they vaguely heard and then hoodwinked a bunch of alliances into flakking for them. Now while this is still perfectly fine, war game remember, it is not something I intend to let pass uncommented on.
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Unread 27 Apr 2008, 23:25   #7
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Re: Given the recent rumours I've heard...

It was all BlueArmy... I can provide evidence, now can i like join the witness protection scheme, get my planetname hidden and moved to a small galaxy in hicksville USA to play out the rest of my time in reasonable peace and harmony, make love not war etc..
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ascendancy who? i auctioned their tag on ebay ffs
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Re: Given the recent rumours I've heard...

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Cudos to xVx on finally climbing down off the fence though!
finnaly ct and xvx choosing a side.... all it takes is 7 vs 1 war to do it!

now wot will it take to get orbit involved?
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The hijacking game accounts bit is just laughably untrue
What, xVx has the logins to people's planets on their website??
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Unread 27 Apr 2008, 23:39   #11
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Re: Given the recent rumours I've heard...

I'm actually genuinely impressed with ND. They managed to get a set of no less than six alliances to do their bidding, without lifting a proverbial finger! Well played. I however also feel obligated to point out that hitting the number 1 alliance is the way to win, not the number 6.
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Unread 27 Apr 2008, 23:41   #12
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Re: Given the recent rumours I've heard...

On behalf of Ascendancy I want to make a public apology.

It was all Veil05's work.. We did not condone it nor support his actions..
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Re: Given the recent rumours I've heard...

To me this seems somewhat like the whole Iraq war, with Roids being Oil, JBG being Saddam, the Iraqies clearly played by asc and the western coalition played by the 6-7 allys :<

To continue the sad analogy somewhat more, this makes Xension Bin Laden since hes gone into vac mode :\

Out of interest, can we make Denial Afghanistan?
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Re: Given the recent rumours I've heard...

This is unfortunately true and i will change my statement.. to more along lines of..

Yes Veil05 is a bad apple and we are sorry for that, its all that fiithy spies fault and we would sell out his coords if he had any, probably...
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I however also feel obligated to point out that hitting the number 1 alliance is the way to win, not the number 6.

So thats why STOOM hit ND instead of Denial I guess ? Since we was second ?
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So thats why STOOM hit ND instead of Denial I guess ? Since we was second ?
hmm, we ptarget? Prolly Veil05 who did raids that night then..
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Re: Given the recent rumours I've heard...

afgans assets are all used up. thats why its not on the news nemore... quite fitting?


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This is very true, and if this is the case I certainly have no objections, it is a war game after all. However what I object to is the spreading of vicious lies about what my alliance has done. Personally I fear that certain individuals, afraid to take us on one-to-one decided to create a pack of complete horseshit based on something they vaguely heard and then hoodwinked a bunch of alliances into flakking for them. Now while this is still perfectly fine, war game remember, it is not something I intend to let pass uncommented on.

seems to a very common occurance these days doesnt it? people having no clue wots going on in the uni, then acting on seriously half assed information... lets clear it up once and for all.. are stoom hiding wmd's?
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So thats why STOOM hit ND instead of Denial I guess ? Since we was second ?
I'm not sure what you're talking about, I've scanned 90% of our targets of the last 2 weeks, and I'm pretty sure we've been galraiding. Furthermore, we're not trying to win, so you can't directly compare our strategies.
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So thats why STOOM hit ND instead of Denial I guess ? Since we was second ?
Lol, its called targetting up, you should try it sometime It's also known as the opposite of bashing your way up the ranks, you really should try it.

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So thats why STOOM hit ND instead of Denial I guess ? Since we was second ?
As we don't go to 'war' with anyone unless seriously provoked, I wouldn't take anything personally if I was you. If someone gets a bunch of targets who happen to be whoever, we're not really caring. ND could give us a stack of targets and if we liked them, we'd probably hit them.
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I am not taking anything personally neither !

We are in it for the FUN and golfballs ( marinho's bald head )
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Can you guys be sure to SK us all too, so that we know you mean it?
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So thats why STOOM hit ND instead of Denial I guess ? Since we was second ?
Actually last time i remember us doing a ptargettng night it was Denial we hit, for no other reason than Stoom felt like it, go cry me a river elsewhere ta...
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Lol, its called targetting up, you should try it sometime It's also known as the opposite of bashing your way up the ranks, you really should try it.

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So ND, despite having a big reputation for crashing fleets for xp, are also noob bashers and never target anyone bigger than us? Funny that.

But I have noticed you're always quick to flame us in any thread going, why is that?
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So ND, despite having a big reputation for crashing fleets for xp, are also noob bashers and never target anyone bigger than us? Funny that.

But I have noticed you're always quick to flame us in any thread going, why is that?
Because its both entertaining to do and entertaining to read? But howsabout instead of turning this into a 'boo hoo, you flame us on the internets(it's ok, I know it can seem real important at times)' thread, we keep to the topic at hand! What cheating happened and other randomly interesting sidestories!
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Re: Given the recent rumours I've heard...

I heard ascendancy cheated by hiding in the STOOMTHEREVIVAL tag!
Also, having so many STOOM based fleet names obviously points out into multying!

And last but not least, I heard that some of their members, like myself, tried farming 1:1's bot planets!
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Must say I have issues understanding why 'everyone' is bashing at ND, so they're n00bs... They've also been the top 5 ally with (by far) the fewest roids last 600 ticks....
erego, atleast ND is trying to fight, and usually loose more than they gain, and yet they grow in value/score.... as oppose to the roidfat fence turds...

as to the whole cheating thing, I dunno who started the rumor, but rumors are BAD, show evidence... and even if one (or 3) players in an alliance cheated, why is the entire alliance being 'punished'?

PA is weird these days, Denial/NoX deserves to win cos they seem to have put in the work....
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I'm sorry, his post was both relevant and informative. Totally my fault!
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Now look, I have a lot of people pm'ing me about concerns and whatever. Now, the 3 moderators of this forum won't close anything unless someone from above tells us to, because right now we have no reason.

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[00:23] <@Smurfeh> maybe we should be congratulating ND on finally getting a decent cooporation with alliances going but point out to them that targetting the #1 alliance is the way to win and not #6

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and in regard of jenova's alliance mail, What have we done that you so blatantly want to kill us for?
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Yeah, for every planet to be ptargetted by every top10 alliance, it better be something awesome
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To echo what lokken said, people have come to us with concerns. They have been listened to and at present there are no viable reasons for closing this thread.
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and in regard of jenova's alliance mail, What have we done that you so blatantly want to kill us for?
how are u reading jenovas mail?? U CHEATIGN SCUM!
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Byrney, i've flamed nd ever since they started pinning their own ****ups on other people.

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Why is nobody just admiting the truth that, the majority of the PA community bears a grudge against asc and therefore they've decided to gangup and kill them :\ All this hocus-pocus about cheating seems a rather thin disguise for most HC's true dislike for ascs approach to the game!

Personally it works for me since my intended attack tonight gets me 550k score!

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its the stoom fleetnames aint it? ADMIT IT!
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Re: Given the recent rumours I've heard...

Given the current political and alliance situation, when something like this happens, you really know PA is shit.

Well done ND, you've quite clearly been "denied". Hah!
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hmm... I thought u had quit BlueArmy... But judging by ur creative highspeed posting I take it u havent

ps. ND are flak, so how the **** did they win two in a row? Cyanide pills for the lot of u tbh :|
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6 ally teaming up vs 1, a whole ally teaming up vs 1 planet... that's how PA is played today, and unless something is done to promote 1 on 1 fights (like roid capping based on value ratio or something) I don't see it getting better.
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Asc are like the naughty kids in school.... they get caught doing something bad and try and pass the blame onto someone else...GG

You guys walk around doing whatever the fk u want as if you own the show...dont get pissy cos someone throws some shit back in ur face.. take it like men and dont be bitches about it.

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I cheat so bad at PA I'm on 700 roids and crashed my Cr fleet.

I definetly need a few waves of ND and ToF incs to teach me a lesson about being a naughty h4x0r.

Joke's on the muppet alliances though. You got denialed bitches!
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This made my day
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yeah this is pretty lawlerous.
So first Asc starts spamming in utter outrage of the clearly unfair treatment of its members, now theyre laughing it all off with absolute disdain. Nice.

And btw, the blatant "herd" mentality of the vast majority of asc members sickens me. Lol sheep Lol
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Asc do tend to be the first to complain and then the first to say 'I don't care,' from my limited observation at least.
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Asc do tend to be the first to complain and then the first to say 'I don't care,' from my limited observation at least.
Doesn't everyone do that after getting hurt emotionally or physically?

Anyways dunno who orceshrated this stuff generally and cba to find out as it's sympton of current pax.. it's just funny how many believed and the some who just used it as a execuse for one night of free roids from competition.. If someone actually base their actions on those info's what came out from hmm nowhere in few hours to orcasthrate attacks in few hours... makes me wonder of the avg age of people as they seem to believe anything.

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