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9 Nov 2006, 15:11
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break it down!
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Re: Official Angels Announcment
Here's the situation as I see it:
Angels want to hit eXi, but are scared of doing so because ND/Omen will hit Angels if they do go to war. Omen refuse to co-operate with Angels because they have already been "backstabbed" once this round. ND don't want to co-operate with Angels because Mobrulz is the worst HC to have ever played PA.
Omen don't want to co-operate with Angels to hit eXi because of their "backstabbing" earlier this round, they are now taking advantage of Angels hitting eXi and retalling Angels and hoping that they can outgrow Angels/ND/eXi seeing as they are #1 on roids.
ND don't want to co-operate with Angels because of Mobrulz's "great" political play, so they have NAPed eXi.
Angels shot themselves in the foot, mainly by having Mobrulz as HC and by backstabbing Omen earlier in the round.
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9 Nov 2006, 15:14
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Join Date: May 2005
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Re: Official Angels Announcment
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Originally Posted by Alki
I might be missing the obvious but why dont both blocks target exi!
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its too easy,so i HAS to be wrong.
it appears some ppl have been around for too long to remember that this game is firstly about military action, and secondly about politics.
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9 Nov 2006, 15:15
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BlueTuba
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Re: Official Angels Announcment
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Originally Posted by Zo0f
Why do I see so many people claiming they cannot take on eXi because someone else MIGHT do something. Do you realise that almost every alliance involved has in the past shown examples of complete incompetence. If your going to think like that, none of you are trustworthy.
Get your heads of your asses and realise that to win a round you need to act. That involves actually doing something. Bitching on AD and worrying about what might happen is not going to get you anywhere.
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Considering the actions of angels this round (pasting logs of private conversations to other alliances and as we've seen above, screwing omen on targeting) and their past actions in similar situations, the almighty weight of probability rests against them.
Infact Omen and ND weren't complaining, they put political pressure on Angels to do something and now Angels are complaining because Omen/ND dug their heels in instead of doing something that was more than likely be utterly pointless and counterproductive for them. Omen and ND didn't make a thread about this, Angels did.
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9 Nov 2006, 15:17
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Registered User
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Re: Official Angels Announcment
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Originally Posted by Fyodor
So instead of talking/working it out with Angels, they block with Exi. The logic here astounds me.
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Ill quote you, but this basically applies to all the replies.
The simple reason this doesn't happen is due to the fact none of the alliances concerned trust that Angels will stick to their word and go through with it.
You had the prefect opportunity earlier in the round with NewDawn, to show them that you can behave responsibly enough to instill confidence in you, but your immature and ill-advised childish moment of "hit them, or we hit you" has effectively cost you any chance of winning this round.
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9 Nov 2006, 15:20
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Drink is Good
Join Date: Sep 2004
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Re: Official Angels Announcment
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Originally Posted by _Kila_
Angels shot themselves in the foot, mainly by having Mobrulz as HC and by backstabbing Omen earlier in the round.
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So basically what your saying is every HC in pa today prefers to hold a grudge rather than do whats in the best interest of the alliance
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9 Nov 2006, 15:26
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Re: Official Angels Announcment
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So basically what your saying is every HC in pa today prefers to hold a grudge rather than do whats in the best interest of the alliance
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Thats not the point Alki, to do any form of 'move', the alliance needs to have the confidence someone like Angels isn't going to just decide to launch in full against them, and thus take 20% of their roids.
No alliance can trust Angels to keep agreements, so its a question of the alliances deciding which is the greater of the two evils.
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9 Nov 2006, 15:29
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Drink is Good
Join Date: Sep 2004
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Re: Official Angels Announcment
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Originally Posted by lokken
Infact Omen and ND weren't complaining, they put political pressure on Angels to do something and now Angels are complaining because Omen/ND dug their heels in instead of doing something that was more than likely be utterly pointless and counterproductive for them. Omen and ND didn't make a thread about this, Angels did.
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The fact still remains though, why are omen/ND/etc so hesitant to goto war vs exi, yes there may be a backlash, but if they want a chance that is the only way for them if they feel angels are too incompetant. Everyone is on here yapping Angels is shit etc etc, what the hell is the problem then, surely they cant do too much damage if nd/omen are to go for exi, then switch targetting to Angels once they feel the job is done, if either have a chance of winning this round then heh, war certainly needs to be declared!
Fact remains that grudges need to be dropped and the HC need to start doing whats in the best interest of the 'top' contender alliances they so claim to be, forget the past and ****ing do something is the moral of the story kids
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9 Nov 2006, 15:30
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Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Arizona
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Re: Official Angels Announcment
I can understand your reasons for not making a move against exi, I dont understand your reasons for making a move for exi.
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9 Nov 2006, 15:31
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Join Date: Jun 2001
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Re: Official Angels Announcment
Every HC prefers to have competent partners as opposed to getting backstabbed.
except Mazz of old, he may be getting soft in his age, but he used to get a hard-on for masochism.
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9 Nov 2006, 15:32
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Re: Official Angels Announcment
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Originally Posted by Zo0f
Why do I see so many people claiming they cannot take on eXi because someone else MIGHT do something. Do you realise that almost every alliance involved has in the past shown examples of complete incompetence. If your going to think like that, none of you are trustworthy.
Get your heads of your asses and realise that to win a round you need to act. That involves actually doing something. Bitching on AD and worrying about what might happen is not going to get you anywhere.
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you do realise there's a difference between being incompetent and being trustworthy right?
(well it doesn't look like you do, but there is!)
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9 Nov 2006, 15:33
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BlueTuba
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Re: Official Angels Announcment
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Originally Posted by Alki
The fact still remains though, why are omen/ND/etc so hesitant to goto war vs exi, yes there may be a backlash, but if they want a chance that is the only way for them if they feel angels are too incompetant. Everyone is on here yapping Angels is shit etc etc, what the hell is the problem then, surely they cant do too much damage if nd/omen are to go for exi, then switch targetting to Angels once they feel the job is done, if either have a chance of winning this round then heh, war certainly needs to be declared!
Fact remains that grudges need to be dropped and the HC need to start doing whats in the best interest of the 'top' contender alliances they so claim to be, forget the past and ****ing do something is the moral of the story kids
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As I've described above. Angels reputation precedes them, the effort would be pointless. I for one am not throwing any insults at Angels in this thread. Do you think I want exilition to win? I'd rather Angels made changes, accepted the decision of one HC so they would stop going back on decisions and actually give themselves, omen and ND an equal chance of winning. As it stands, that will not happen. Kila listed one of the reasons, I'm sure there are others. The problem people have is that Angels HC seems to be a democracy and the people who are trusted within Angels HC are very much in the minority.
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9 Nov 2006, 15:35
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Drink is Good
Join Date: Sep 2004
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Re: Official Angels Announcment
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Originally Posted by Game^
Thats not the point Alki, to do any form of 'move', the alliance needs to have the confidence someone like Angels isn't going to just decide to launch in full against them, and thus take 20% of their roids.
No alliance can trust Angels to keep agreements, so its a question of the alliances deciding which is the greater of the two evils.
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I agree, but each alliance is to blame for the political situation of the current round, not one alliance is to blame, all thats happening here is people arguing who is to blame when in fact its all of them. If you believe exi to be a top contender your looking at a 3 way stand off, there is no way out of it except to go to full out war, the politics are basically set for the round with all the grudges/lack of cooperation between alliances.
Once again it is said, they are scared of loosing roids vs the most imcompetant alliance to roam the universe of pa, according to them of course.
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9 Nov 2006, 15:43
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Re: Official Angels Announcment
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Originally Posted by Alki
The fact still remains though, why are omen/ND/etc so hesitant to goto war vs exi, yes there may be a backlash, but if they want a chance that is the only way for them if they feel angels are too incompetant. Everyone is on here yapping Angels is shit etc etc, what the hell is the problem then, surely they cant do too much damage if nd/omen are to go for exi, then switch targetting to Angels once they feel the job is done, if either have a chance of winning this round then heh, war certainly needs to be declared!
Fact remains that grudges need to be dropped and the HC need to start doing whats in the best interest of the 'top' contender alliances they so claim to be, forget the past and ****ing do something is the moral of the story kids
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And what would Angels/ToF/Vision had done if we would've hit eXi first ?
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9 Nov 2006, 15:43
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Drink is Good
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Re: Official Angels Announcment
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Originally Posted by lokken
As I've described above. Angels reputation precedes them, the effort would be pointless. I for one am not throwing any insults at Angels in this thread. Do you think I want exilition to win? I'd rather Angels made changes, accepted the decision of one HC so they would stop going back on decisions and actually give themselves, omen and ND an equal chance of winning. As it stands, that will not happen. Kila listed one of the reasons, I'm sure there are others. The problem people have is that Angels HC seems to be a democracy and the people who are trusted within Angels HC are very much in the minority.
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Yeah i understand and dont dispute any of the facts, Angels once again have screwed themselves, but it isnt unsalvagable(if thats a word), people just refuse to act. Im just really quite tired of the whole politics thing in pa, its really quite tedious and its getting worse and worse every round, alliances overplaying politics is what is getting them into this situation, each alliance is out to give themselves the perfect setting stone to win the round, whilst infact all they are doing is going overboard, blaming 3rd parties and refusing to do anything about it, because its the other parties fault, quite tiring really
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9 Nov 2006, 15:43
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Re: Official Angels Announcment
this is what you should all do:
exi: kill angels, kill omen, kill nd in this order - grow as fast as possible and move your well known value weight around to get pa into a game of chicken (as it is right now) with regards to either following you or not
omen: kill angels, kill exi, kill nd in this order - keep out of the picture as the main player
nd: kill angels, kill exi, kill omen in this order - start listening to lokken
angels: kill yourselves, stop playing planetarion as a whole alliance, go back to your more concise membercount wise roots - get rid of all of your shit friends, shit members, shit hc's, keep one guy (sjor of course) and ask him to be stern and decide what your priorities should be ie high ranked planets, or #1 alliance
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9 Nov 2006, 15:45
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Drink is Good
Join Date: Sep 2004
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Re: Official Angels Announcment
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Originally Posted by Buly
And what would Angels/ToF/Vision had done if we would've hit eXi first ?
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thats something one of the parties will have to find out, but then again with the way things are looking, its gonna remain unanswered.
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9 Nov 2006, 15:46
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break it down!
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Re: Official Angels Announcment
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Originally Posted by Alki
So basically what your saying is every HC in pa today prefers to hold a grudge rather than do whats in the best interest of the alliance
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Well, thats part of Keizari's motive for leaving Angels to die - he's holding the grudge, he's also trying to pick up easy roids from Angels while they try to hit eXi, hoping that Angels and eXi keep fighting and Omen can cruise to #1 on their roid count - they aren't exactly in the spotlight so they have the chance to do so atm.
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9 Nov 2006, 15:48
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Join Date: Mar 2001
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Re: Official Angels Announcment
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Originally Posted by Buly
And what would Angels/ToF/Vision had done if we would've hit eXi first ?
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Probably hitting ND/Exi/Omen - whoever of those three has most juiciest galaxies.
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9 Nov 2006, 16:08
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Your typical Troll
Join Date: May 2006
Location: New York City
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Re: Official Angels Announcment
oh man, this is hilarious...
round 1:
Alliance A) hmm... allies B, C and D had blocked against us ! However we will choose to go solo for the remainder of the round (alond with our allies, E, F and G). we will NOT create a block.
Alliance B) whatsa block ?
Alliance C) AEFG is a block
Alliance D) we aint got no block
Alliance E) huh ? block with A ? we aint got no block with A
Alliance F) we were coerced into block with AEFG... we are sorry (kind of)
Alliance G) ... what happened ?
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Round 2:
Alliance A) we solemnly swear to hit block BCD with all our allies
Alliance E) we do ?
Alliance F) they made us do it !
Alliance G) ... what happened ?
Alliance B) ye ok, its a WAAARGH
Alliance C) wtf, why do we get all the incoming ?
Alliance A) coz we hit you... wtf happened to those who had to hit B?
Alliance E) we hit them... we promiss ! we have logs n stuff....
Alliance F) they made us do it !
Round 3:
Alliance eXil) suckers, rofl
Alliance A, to their members) hold on there... we almost won... keep on doing whatever is that you are doing...
Alliance B, also to their members) roid A... concentrate on A, they must not win.
Allies C-F) wtf is going on ? my intell sez that next most logical step is go make some eggs !
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End of Round ceremony:
Alliance eXil) i would like to thank all of the (*cough*dim*cough) PA community for this win ! It would not happen without all of you doing your part! It was much fun
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ofcourse its all jokes n stuff... but common now...
A) Angels cannot say we are going solo with our allies... thats like... wtf.. saying that theyre vegitarian while chomping on some roast pork....
B) Coersion is a powerfull tool to create block... that last about 1 night and never work out in the long run.
C) Angels have worse administration then the United States of America... and here i was thinking i will not live long enough to see that day.
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please note, the above post does not reflect any of the official policies of any one alliance and is all just a figment of my imagination.
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9 Nov 2006, 16:34
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[Vision]
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: The Netherlands
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Re: Official Angels Announcment
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Originally Posted by Mek
ND/LCH/Omen/xVx NAP exil and target Angels/ToF/VisioN
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For the love of god, stop making these random accusations and get your intel straight. At this moment xVx is not, nor has any intention, to be involved in any side of this poor excuse of a war. We are not napped, we aren't helping, we are playing our own game, now sod of and go fight a war or something pls
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9 Nov 2006, 16:47
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Registered AbUser
Join Date: May 2005
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Re: Official Angels Announcment
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Originally Posted by Treveler
At top of this ND/Omen decides to actually nap Exilition in an attempt to force Angels + flak to attack Exil? Yeah that sounds reasonable...
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It worked...Angels hit us ;D
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9 Nov 2006, 16:48
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The Original Carebear
Join Date: Nov 2004
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Re: Official Angels Announcment
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Originally Posted by ChipZ^
It worked...Angels hit us ;D
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Yes, and this is the sad part of it all.
Edit: Realizing how this can be misinterpreted, it is sad because we let our hands be forced, not because we actually hit eXi. Funny how we got all these incomings from people who didn't want to risk eXi because we might hit them too.
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9 Nov 2006, 16:59
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Re: Official Angels Announcment
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Originally Posted by qebab
Yes, and this is the sad part of it all.
Edit: Realizing how this can be misinterpreted, it is sad because we let our hands be forced, not because we actually hit eXi. Funny how we got all these incomings from people who didn't want to risk eXi because we might hit them too.
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Ye i love the fact that alot of attention has been given to eXilition while we are just plodding along on gal raids.
Aparently we are part of a huge block (which would suggest that we are coordinating attacks with said block members) yet last night again, gal attacks.
Infact we are even less of a block than Angels "block" which they claim is nothing of the sort :O
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9 Nov 2006, 17:06
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Don't make me declare war
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Portsmouth
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Re: Official Angels Announcment
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So basically what your saying is every HC in pa today prefers to hold a grudge rather than do whats in the best interest of the alliance
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Bingo.
Luckily, some HC are proving to ahve balls.
It has astounded me to learn who, and im sure it will astound you too.
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9 Nov 2006, 17:11
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Don't make me declare war
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Portsmouth
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Re: Official Angels Announcment
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Originally Posted by ChipZ^
Ye i love the fact that alot of attention has been given to eXilition while we are just plodding along on gal raids.
Aparently we are part of a huge block (which would suggest that we are coordinating attacks with said block members) yet last night again, gal attacks.
Infact we are even less of a block than Angels "block" which they claim is nothing of the sort :O
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I disagree. I dont believe exi have a block for one second. They are playing a great round.
Aided brilliantly by a lot of alliances held so far down by distrust and predujice that they cant possibly fail.
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9 Nov 2006, 17:46
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BlueTuba
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Re: Official Angels Announcment
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Originally Posted by Alki
Yeah i understand and dont dispute any of the facts, Angels once again have screwed themselves, but it isnt unsalvagable(if thats a word), people just refuse to act. Im just really quite tired of the whole politics thing in pa, its really quite tedious and its getting worse and worse every round, alliances overplaying politics is what is getting them into this situation, each alliance is out to give themselves the perfect setting stone to win the round, whilst infact all they are doing is going overboard, blaming 3rd parties and refusing to do anything about it, because its the other parties fault, quite tiring really
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Oh I can only agree, so this is pretty much the only option available. People like to say "why don't you do x" when it's not viable and don't suggest any alternatives for ND and Omen who are in similar positions seem to just be desperate to stop exilition winning by any fashion - and it may not please anyone but a lot of the time PA doesn't work out that way.
If ND does more to keep its own house in order to back up its politics (which have generally been miles ahead of many alliances in the past), it can be a force, because when ND has put its mind to it, it has been a pretty handy alliance. For me ND's future lies in the hands of their command and members to dig in - it's up to them to fix it. It is not certain that Exilition will win, all that has happened is that it has been made possible - to open up the round and stop it from being closed off. If you want to win it, it's going to be a mighty big scrap to the finish line, but that's what any good player plays planetarion for.
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nd: kill angels, kill exi, kill omen in this order - start listening to lokken
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I laughed very loud. I am very overrated and more of a pundit than any kind of real player of the game.
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angels: kill yourselves, stop playing planetarion as a whole alliance, go back to your more concise membercount wise roots - get rid of all of your shit friends, shit members, shit hc's, keep one guy (sjor of course) and ask him to be stern and decide what your priorities should be ie high ranked planets, or #1 alliance
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It's very harsh, but in suggesting an overhaul of angels, I'm not against a lot of what you say here.
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9 Nov 2006, 17:48
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Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: A Persistant Universe
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Re: Official Angels Announcment
Newsflash:
Exilition hasnt won anything yet
I think the people declaring exi the winner at tick 750 should look themselves in the mirror if they want to know why exi may win this round. Yes exi does take advantage of political situations. They also take advantage of the fact that everyone thinks they are unbeatable.
Im not saying I wouldnt bet on exi to win the round, but I wouldnt assume it either. Not only is the political situation as expressed in this thread oversimplified and innaccurate, it can change. Maybe it won't, but maybe it will, and I see alot of posts on this thread that act as if the rest of the round is already set in stone.
The round could be decided by what happens in the future, not what has already happened, theres still plenty of time left for a block to form to hit exilition. Will that happen? Who knows, but perhaps those of you interested in stopping exi should focus on encouraging that to happen rather than complaining that it didnt happen already.
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9 Nov 2006, 18:03
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Re: Official Angels Announcment
a pundit you may be but nevertheless sensible lok but let's stop now before this ends up being an ascendancy circle jerk <3
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9 Nov 2006, 18:10
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Re: Official Angels Announcment
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a pundit you may be but nevertheless sensible lok but let's stop now before this ends up being an ascendancy circle jerk <3
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I think there was someone on the forums who was called Pundit. I think he was Fury.
And a complete twat, from memory.
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9 Nov 2006, 18:40
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Re: Official Angels Announcment
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Originally Posted by ChipZ^
Ye i love the fact that alot of attention has been given to eXilition while we are just plodding along on gal raids.
Aparently we are part of a huge block (which would suggest that we are coordinating attacks with said block members) yet last night again, gal attacks.
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Claiming that eXi are blocking is fairly silly, they said pre round that they wouldn't have much to do with politics, and they haven't so far (knowing eXi, they would have thrashed Angels and would have been ripping into Omen at this point if they were playing for the win by using political moves etc.)
Btw, you guys will fight back if an alliance brings the war to you, won't you? I mean, you're saying that you're doing gal raids, but Angels is hitting you, so are you guys going to retaliate or just continue doing galraids?
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9 Nov 2006, 18:57
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Re: Official Angels Announcment
chipz isnt exactly a political genious so dont ask him
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9 Nov 2006, 19:08
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Re: Official Angels Announcment
Who knows Kila! Today showed that semi-planettargeting (semi as in on ~20 of our planets) us (eXilition) while we're doing galraids still ends up in us having positive growth
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9 Nov 2006, 19:30
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Join Date: May 2002
Location: London, UK
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Re: Official Angels Announcment
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chipz isnt exactly a political genious so dont ask him
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He isn't exactly a genius fullstop so let's just leave it at that
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9 Nov 2006, 23:34
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break it down!
Join Date: Feb 2005
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Re: Official Angels Announcment
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Originally Posted by Stoom
Who knows Kila! Today showed that semi-planettargeting (semi as in on ~20 of our planets) us (eXilition) while we're doing galraids still ends up in us having positive growth
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Yeah, thats kind of what I meant, none of these alliances can do much damage anyway so you can continue growing by doing gal raids ;D
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9 Nov 2006, 23:57
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Bragpack
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 815
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Re: Official Angels Announcment
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Originally Posted by _Kila_
Yeah, thats kind of what I meant, none of these alliances can do much damage anyway so you can continue growing by doing gal raids ;D
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Well it wasn't completely like that, they were just unlucky that everyone had their fleets ready since no DC had been on till their LT
Plus ofc. it is Angels attacking and not Omen/ND
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10 Nov 2006, 00:12
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Sir peon to you
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 275
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Re: Official Angels Announcment
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Originally Posted by lokken
Considering the actions of angels this round (pasting logs of private conversations to other alliances and as we've seen above, screwing omen on targeting) and their past actions in similar situations, the almighty weight of probability rests against them.
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So what? Angels have been rather dirty in the past. Everyone has gotten their hands dirty at some point. Wether you like it or not ND and Omen are no better. Your all shit. Lets face facts, this round is like the special olympics (eXi tied one arm behind their backs to give you a chance).
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Originally Posted by lokken
Infact Omen and ND weren't complaining, they put political pressure on Angels to do something and now Angels are complaining because Omen/ND dug their heels in instead of doing something that was more than likely be utterly pointless and counterproductive for them. Omen and ND didn't make a thread about this, Angels did.
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Dear god, please stop. You win games by making it happen yourself, not by trying to force other people to do it for you. Then again who would expect anything else from ND? None of you have any right to bitch at the other, yet here you all are doing exactly that.
Im glad I can sleep safe in the knowledge that eXi will probably win this round, because quite frankly none of the rest of you deserve to.
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10 Nov 2006, 01:06
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Hired Thug
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Central Illinois USA
Posts: 894
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Re: Official Angels Announcment
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Originally Posted by Zo0f
So what? Angels have been rather dirty in the past. Everyone has gotten their hands dirty at some point. Wether you like it or not ND and Omen are no better. Your all shit. Lets face facts, this round is like the special olympics (eXi tied one arm behind their backs to give you a chance).
Dear god, please stop. You win games by making it happen yourself, not by trying to force other people to do it for you. Then again who would expect anything else from ND? None of you have any right to bitch at the other, yet here you all are doing exactly that.
Im glad I can sleep safe in the knowledge that eXi will probably win this round, because quite frankly none of the rest of you deserve to.
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thing is Zo0f....our guys are showing up, launching attacks, offering defense fleets, doing their part. I'm sure the other alliances can say the same. So don't give me "no other alliance deserves to win". If you show up, as an alliance, your members do the best they possibly can and work as a team, then they deserve to have success.
As for ND, we HAVE handled our business all round, we HAVE hit those who hit us, and done so consistantly...no one in ND has anything they should be ashamed of.
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10 Nov 2006, 01:14
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CRASHING BEATS 'N FANTASY
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Cold Country.
Posts: 1,912
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Re: Official Angels Announcment
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Originally Posted by Zo0f
So what? Angels have been rather dirty in the past. Everyone has gotten their hands dirty at some point. Wether you like it or not ND and Omen are no better. Your all shit. Lets face facts, this round is like the special olympics (eXi tied one arm behind their backs to give you a chance).
Dear god, please stop. You win games by making it happen yourself, not by trying to force other people to do it for you. Then again who would expect anything else from ND? None of you have any right to bitch at the other, yet here you all are doing exactly that.
Im glad I can sleep safe in the knowledge that eXi will probably win this round, because quite frankly none of the rest of you deserve to.
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And these words are coming from Mr. "I rather suicide my fleet than roid the #3 planet in the universe!"
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10 Nov 2006, 01:37
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 3,382
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Re: Official Angels Announcment
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Originally Posted by aNgRyDuCk
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you only deserve anything if you do something better than the others you're up against
contrary to popular belief; it isn't the thought that counts! #1 or ascendancy, those are the only two options you have of being a reasonable planetarion player.
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10 Nov 2006, 01:41
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tappajahai!
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Finland
Posts: 236
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Re: Official Angels Announcment
Zo0f u go girl!
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10 Nov 2006, 01:45
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BlueTuba
Join Date: Aug 2000
Posts: 6,339
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Re: Official Angels Announcment
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Originally Posted by jerome
you only deserve anything if you do something better than the others you're up against
contrary to popular belief; it isn't the thought that counts! #1 or ascendancy, those are the only two options you have of being a reasonable planetarion player.
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fook me i hedge my bets
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10 Nov 2006, 01:49
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Sir peon to you
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 275
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Re: Official Angels Announcment
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Originally Posted by aNgRyDuCk
thing is Zo0f....our guys are showing up, launching attacks, offering defense fleets, doing their part. I'm sure the other alliances can say the same. So don't give me "no other alliance deserves to win". If you show up, as an alliance, your members do the best they possibly can and work as a team, then they deserve to have success.
As for ND, we HAVE handled our business all round, we HAVE hit those who hit us, and done so consistantly...no one in ND has anything they should be ashamed of.
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Sorry to burst your bubble but being online, launching attacks and offering defence does not earn you the right to win a round (if it did I so would of won r11!). This isnt primary school, no matter what your mother used to tell you, merely taking part isnt enough.
As for ND specifically having anything to be ashamed of, that will depend on who you talk to and how bias they are wont it? In the end the only people whos opinion should matter to you is your members, and a couple of days ago when I popped into IRC some werent all that happy with NDs performance this round so far. May I suggest talking to them instead of trying to convince AD?
Now I quite like the guys at ND, and will freely admit they can be damned good when they knuckle down, sadly this seems to be rarely. So what, your not perfect? Theres no need to be ashamed of that. I brought this all up as you seem to be expecting just that of others.
What I see at the moment is a group of alliances all living in glass houses and all throwing stones at each other. In the end someone has to wakeup and realise that is rather unconstructive and get on with the game the way it is meant to be played (no, I dont mean suiciding Heartless!!).
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Originally Posted by Heartless
And these words are coming from Mr. "I rather suicide my fleet than roid the #3 planet in the universe!"
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That was a different game. I was too active and took too much work on and paid for it by burning out in spectacular fashion. That always was my weakness though.
On a more positive note I did enjoy talking to you while you DCd my attacks! I have a couple of quotes lying around that still amuse me greatly:
<Gorc> Zo0f <Gorc> u bastard <Gorc> LIKE THOSE ROIDS?
<Zo0f> Theres no DE in it.... <Heartless> no de? <Heartless> ****
Good times!
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10 Nov 2006, 04:13
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The Original Carebear
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Trondheim, Norway
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Re: Official Angels Announcment
It seems like you all got what you wanted anyway now. Angels are hitting eXilition, eXilition and Omen and ND and LCH and godknows who are waving Angels. Surely this will win you guys the round right?
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10 Nov 2006, 06:42
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Laziness pays off NOW!
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Pensacola, FL, USA
Posts: 596
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Re: Official Angels Announcment
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Originally Posted by qebab
It seems like you all got what you wanted anyway now. Angels are hitting eXilition, eXilition and Omen and ND and LCH and godknows who are waving Angels. Surely this will win you guys the round right?
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Do you beleive that the #1 alliance hitting the #6 alliance is the right move FTW?
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10 Nov 2006, 06:47
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Lord of the Boards
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: #furious-angels
Posts: 209
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Re: Official Angels Announcment
tbh I couldnt care less about the flames against angels. 90% of the ppl on ad just try to talk some honor into their ingame actions. In the end, is there any round at all that actually got won by an alliance that PLAYED the game? No, the winner is not the best ally, its the most cowardish ally with the most allies.
On the other hand, maybe the alliance with the most allies IS in fact the best one, just because of "superior politic skills"
Apart from that I agree with many of the flames against Angels. Noobs, retarded politics, whatever.
What matters to me though are the facts. New Dawn, Exilition, Omen and LCH allied to bash angels.
You can pull as much shit out of your arses as you want, this is like the best compliment an alliance full of noobs can get.
Blame it on whatever you want, none of you had the balls and the skill to take Angels down. You need 3 top alliances for that.
And the most funny thing is that you think you are winning by taking the alliance with the highest avrg score, value and roidcount into the Block.
Face it, you even suck at playing lame!
Last edited by LEFF|pm; 10 Nov 2006 at 07:05.
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10 Nov 2006, 07:20
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#196
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Up The Hatters!
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Kenilworth Road
Posts: 3,012
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Re: Official Angels Announcment
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Originally Posted by LEFF|pm
Blame it on whatever you want, none of you had the balls and the skill to take Angels down. You need 3 top alliances for that.
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Im sorry, they only need three alliances it to do it faster.
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10 Nov 2006, 07:47
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The Original Carebear
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Trondheim, Norway
Posts: 1,048
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Re: Official Angels Announcment
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Originally Posted by NitinA
Do you beleive that the #1 alliance hitting the #6 alliance is the right move FTW?
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I would say our hands were forced.
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10 Nov 2006, 07:54
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Avenger of Calamari
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Alberta, Canada
Posts: 939
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Re: Official Angels Announcment
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Originally Posted by LEFF|pm
Face it, you even suck at playing lame!
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Speaking of playing lame, how about that MobRulz eh?
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10 Nov 2006, 07:57
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Bragpack
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 815
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Re: Official Angels Announcment
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Originally Posted by LEFF|pm
tbh I couldnt care less about the flames against angels. 90% of the ppl on ad just try to talk some honor into their ingame actions. In the end, is there any round at all that actually got won by an alliance that PLAYED the game? No, the winner is not the best ally, its the most cowardish ally with the most allies.
On the other hand, maybe the alliance with the most allies IS in fact the best one, just because of "superior politic skills"
Apart from that I agree with many of the flames against Angels. Noobs, retarded politics, whatever.
What matters to me though are the facts. New Dawn, Exilition, Omen and LCH allied to bash angels.
You can pull as much shit out of your arses as you want, this is like the best compliment an alliance full of noobs can get.
Blame it on whatever you want, none of you had the balls and the skill to take Angels down. You need 3 top alliances for that.
And the most funny thing is that you think you are winning by taking the alliance with the highest avrg score, value and roidcount into the Block.
Face it, you even suck at playing lame!
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This is really too easy.
1.1up and eXi actually DID win rounds by military force.
2. Who's pulling the shit out of his arse, when claiming ND/eXi/Omen/LCH have allied?
3. Angels was the first to block with 2 other alliances to take Omen down and after that ND! So much for balls and skill...
4. Face it, you're whining and just picked the wrong alliance.
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10 Nov 2006, 08:12
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The Original Carebear
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Trondheim, Norway
Posts: 1,048
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Re: Official Angels Announcment
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Originally Posted by Stoom
This is really too easy.
1.1up and eXi actually DID win rounds by military force.
2. Who's pulling the shit out of his arse, when claiming ND/eXi/Omen/LCH have allied?
3. Angels was the first to block with 2 other alliances to take Omen down and after that ND! So much for balls and skill...
4. Face it, you're whining and just picked the wrong alliance.
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He is not speaking about eXilition or 1up, and you know it. He never claimed Angels had any balls or skill, in fact he has, on multiple occasions said that the opposite is true. Whatever ND/eXi/Omen/LCH are doing, they seem to be doing it together. With the amount of fleets last night I would say it is impressive to not piggyback each other. This doesn't necessarely mean you allied, it just means you speak to each other.
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