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20 Jan 2006, 14:32
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Re: If you were searching for something illegal, you may be screwed.
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im just against the government thinking it has the right to know everything about anyone it chooses.
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they are given their rights by the electorate.
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20 Jan 2006, 14:45
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Re: If you were searching for something illegal, you may be screwed.
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But the information on where one surfs would not be a big deal unless you were doing something llegal or perverted. DOn't break the law and don't be a ****ing pervert and you shouldn't mind anyone looking at your history. :|
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Yeah but like what if the government could scan your memory like and then prosecuted you based on the memories they found? I mean I'm sure I'm on a tenuous limb here but I'll wager diamonds to little green apples that you've broken a few laws in the past.
PS Uncle Joe thinks you're all expendable too :)))
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20 Jan 2006, 15:25
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Re: If you were searching for something illegal, you may be screwed.
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meh, I found a copy of The Complete Works in the uni library, so I can read Animal Farm while I'm at it
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20 Jan 2006, 16:52
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Re: If you were searching for something illegal, you may be screwed.
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Originally Posted by Dante Hicks
PDAs / ebook readers will improve.
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Theres no way improved versions of current PDA/ebook readers will ever replace printed books - the paradigm just isnt good enough. It would have to be something radically new, like electronic ink or something. Even that isnt ideal, because you cant write in the margins or underline interesting stuff.
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20 Jan 2006, 17:05
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Re: If you were searching for something illegal, you may be screwed.
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Theres no way improved versions of current PDA/ebook readers will ever replace printed books - the paradigm just isnt good enough. It would have to be something radically new, like electronic ink or something. Even that isnt ideal, because you cant write in the margins or underline interesting stuff. |
I'm with nodrog. There is discussion of a 'rollable' PDA, but it's far fetched, and as far as I can tell that's not expected to be possible for decades. We haven't solved the battery/energy problems (and we can't seem to). Also, if books are to prevail, so will libraries! And I'll have a job and that makes me happy.
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"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
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20 Jan 2006, 17:06
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Re: If you were searching for something illegal, you may be screwed.
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Theres no way improved versions of current PDA/ebook readers will ever replace printed books - the paradigm just isnt good enough.
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I don't quite know what you'd class as an improved version and what you'd consider radically new, but I'd definitely like to have a PDA style reader with a long battery life and no DRM concerns on a wide availability of texts. I'm not really interested in the underlying tech (e.g. if it was a TFT screen or something else) just the output.
Also, am I alone in having never made a single note in the margin of any book I've ever had?
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20 Jan 2006, 17:13
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Re: If you were searching for something illegal, you may be screwed.
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Also, am I alone in having never made a single note in the margin of any book I've ever had?
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I've only done it in the context of English Literature exams.
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20 Jan 2006, 17:13
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Re: If you were searching for something illegal, you may be screwed.
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Also, am I alone in having never made a single note in the margin of any book I've ever had?
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20 Jan 2006, 17:22
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Re: If you were searching for something illegal, you may be screwed.
To clarify what Dante probably meant - never having made a note in the margin of any non-educational book that he's had. Your book is clearly a textbook 
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20 Jan 2006, 17:24
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Re: If you were searching for something illegal, you may be screwed.
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Noone is going to read that much text on a computer monitor, and the effort it would take printing it out far outweighs the £5 it would cost to just buy the book.
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That wasn't the reason I was point it out - he said he would have to go out and look for one, where the very site he was reading was a complete copy of 1984.
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20 Jan 2006, 17:26
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Re: If you were searching for something illegal, you may be screwed.
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To clarify what Dante probably meant - never having made a note in the margin of any non-educational book that he's had. Your book is clearly a textbook |
Hell no I'm not going to write in my Homer or Xenophon. Hell no.
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20 Jan 2006, 17:36
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Re: If you were searching for something illegal, you may be screwed.
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Hell no I'm not going to write in my Homer or Xenophon. Hell no.
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It's hardly like it's an original copy dude.
PS I always write at the back of books not in the margins.
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20 Jan 2006, 17:39
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Re: If you were searching for something illegal, you may be screwed.
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To clarify what Dante probably meant - never having made a note in the margin of any non-educational book that he's had. Your book is clearly a textbook |
I've never had to use textbooks, or at least haven't bothered in some years (I think I had a couple at GCSE level).
The PDA "model" seems a lot easier for bookmarking / indexing of references anyway. Highlight a line of text, click "Add to notes", it auto-references the text, puts it in a database and allows you add a short comment "Excellent quote re : origin of rights" and so on.
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20 Jan 2006, 17:46
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Re: If you were searching for something illegal, you may be screwed.
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It's hardly like it's an original copy dude.
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Mine is. It even has the lost 25th Book of the Iliad in which Achilles runs around the Plain of Troy shouting "lightning bolt! lightning bolt!" and telling the Trojans they're all ****ing dead.
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He was crowned in York Cathedral as 'Expert in the West' by Pope Urban III in 1186.
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20 Jan 2006, 18:00
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Re: If you were searching for something illegal, you may be screwed.
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Originally Posted by Dante Hicks
I don't quite know what you'd class as an improved version and what you'd consider radically new, but I'd definitely like to have a PDA style reader with a long battery life and no DRM concerns on a wide availability of texts. I'm not really interested in the underlying tech (e.g. if it was a TFT screen or something else) just the output.
Also, am I alone in having never made a single note in the margin of any book I've ever had?
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How do you learn (Class material) without textbooks? I listen to lectures, but I can't read my own handwriting so notes are worthless for me. The textbooks are all I have to make it through a class.
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20 Jan 2006, 18:00
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Re: If you were searching for something illegal, you may be screwed.
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Also, am I alone in having never made a single note in the margin of any book I've ever had?
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I dunno, I do it a fair bit when its not a library book. I almost always make notes when I'm reading something interesting, but whether I do it in the margin or in a seperate notebook varies. Normally I'll make brief notes in the margin and underline important passages, and then write more extended thoughts/summaries somewhere else.
edit: I'm mainly talking about non-fiction here.
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How do you learn class material
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20 Jan 2006, 18:04
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Re: If you were searching for something illegal, you may be screwed.
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Mine is. It even has the lost 25th Book of the Iliad in which Achilles runs around the Plain of Troy shouting "lightning bolt! lightning bolt!" and telling the Trojans they're all ****ing dead.
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Cambridge gets all the best materials 
PS I can't believe nod has a notebook to write his thoughts in. The only way that could be any gayer is if you drew pictures of men you were attracted to in it.
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20 Jan 2006, 18:06
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Re: If you were searching for something illegal, you may be screwed.
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..write more extended thoughts/summaries somewhere else.
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Writing summaries is great. I try to summarize the contents of a paragraph in a simple sentence, including its key points. So I'll read a paragraph quickly, think about it, and maybe re-read it, and then summarize. It helps with being able to remember the content. Also it helps with being able to find things later on, I just look at the margins. And then if I want to include something in a paper, I've already summarized and synthezised the ideas while reading, so including it in a paper is a breeze. The trouble is that I read at a rate of about 5 pages per hour. No joke.
EDIT: I read books for classes this slow. My own personal reading is much quicker.
Why the :lol:?
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20 Jan 2006, 18:08
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Re: If you were searching for something illegal, you may be screwed.
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PS I can't believe nod has a notebook to write his thoughts in. The only way that could be any gayer is if you drew pictures of men you were attracted to in it.
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I have a notebook for ideas too.
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20 Jan 2006, 18:09
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Re: If you were searching for something illegal, you may be screwed.
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How do you learn (Class material) without textbooks?
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I've never studied a subject where a text book wasn't a bastardisation of some original text (or original research or whatever). It might be different in a maths or engineering like subject though.
I've tried keeping a notebook, but I tend to lose things. Now if there's anything I want to keep hold of (a good quote, a code fragment, interesting link) I just e-mail it to myself with an appropriate tag and then search for it later on my Gmail account.
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20 Jan 2006, 18:12
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Re: If you were searching for something illegal, you may be screwed.
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Why the :lol:?
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Its Dante.
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20 Jan 2006, 18:15
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Re: If you were searching for something illegal, you may be screwed.
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Now if there's anything I want to keep hold of (a good quote, a code fragment, interesting link) I just e-mail it to myself with an appropriate tag and then search for it later on my Gmail account.
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I started doing this too, especially since my old computer randomly started deleting my favourites. Apparently it had over 200 viruses on it. I'm not exactly good with computers
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20 Jan 2006, 18:35
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Re: If you were searching for something illegal, you may be screwed.
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I started doing this too, especially since my old computer randomly started deleting my favourites. Apparently it had over 200 viruses on it. I'm not exactly good with computers |
200 viruses. You weren't using a shady anti-spy were you? Those things are as bad as viruses themselves, and they'll give you false positives so you give them money.
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20 Jan 2006, 18:42
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Re: If you were searching for something illegal, you may be screwed.
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200 viruses. You weren't using a shady anti-spy were you? Those things are as bad as viruses themselves, and they'll give you false positives so you give them money.
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I'm pretty sure I used norton.
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20 Jan 2006, 18:48
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Re: If you were searching for something illegal, you may be screwed.
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I'm pretty sure I used norton.
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well there you go.
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20 Jan 2006, 18:49
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Re: If you were searching for something illegal, you may be screwed.
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well there you go.
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I'm not even sure if that is a joke
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20 Jan 2006, 19:36
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Re: If you were searching for something illegal, you may be screwed.
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Also, am I alone in having never made a single note in the margin of any book I've ever had?
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The only time I have was English GCSE where the teacher more or less insisted on it. Since then, when revising or doing coursework, I just write it down in a notepad. I just collect all the useful bits from each textbook on a subject then rewrite them making one small booklet of notes for it.
For interesting quotes and things I do the same as you though and just email it to myself.
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Re: If you were searching for something illegal, you may be screwed.
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21 Jan 2006, 03:15
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Re: If you were searching for something illegal, you may be screwed.
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lol.
I am starting to grasp this thing called "inet humor" now.
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