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Unread 14 May 2005, 20:21   #1
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New tactic...

We've seen many questionable ways of taking on the enemy(Fake defcalls, spamming bots, attack irc servers etc), but the latest being used against HR is actually so pathetic that I had to post here to see if its been attempted against any other alliances aswell.

Simply, someone uses the nick of a HC and PMs members about them being inactive and should leave the alliance. Dont think it worked, but its still quite laughable...

What kind of alliances/players are really willing to ridicule themselves this much?

I dont know which alliance is behind it, maybe HR HC does. Just want to see the reaction/opinion from the rest of the community.

Have a nice weekend

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Unread 14 May 2005, 20:26   #2
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Re: New tactic...

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Unread 14 May 2005, 20:29   #3
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Unread 14 May 2005, 20:37   #4
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Re: New tactic...

Not entirely new.
I seem to recall Zhukov masquerading as Sid on Fury IRC in round 8. I believe he conned some members into giving their co-ords or somesuch.
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Unread 14 May 2005, 20:50   #6
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Re: New tactic...

Ohh no dont remind Zhu of that. He will just go on and on and on and on about it!

Well if the guy actually left the ally it would actually be a bit funny, its almost like the "repeat after me joke" that ends with the quit command!
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That is pretty lame indeed...
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Re: New tactic...

possibly the funniest way of damaging an aliiance with out having to do anything, rather lame though.
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Re: New tactic...

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We've seen many questionable ways of taking on the enemy(Fake defcalls, spamming bots, attack irc servers etc), but the latest being used against HR is actually so pathetic that I had to post here to see if its been attempted against any other alliances aswell.

Simply, someone uses the nick of a HC and PMs members about them being inactive and should leave the alliance. Dont think it worked, but its still quite laughable...

What kind of alliances/players are really willing to ridicule themselves this much?

I dont know which alliance is behind it, maybe HR HC does. Just want to see the reaction/opinion from the rest of the community.

Have a nice weekend

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We had a few nights earlier in the round where we had people masquerading as our BC's and telling people that planned attacks were. I didnt hear reports of anyone pulling and the scans tallied up so it seems everyone who should have lauched did but its amazing how low some people will stoop, even more so when its an alliance like F-Crew whom you know full well is a place where there will be a number of impretionanable newbies whom maybe arent as pa smart as others and might fall for it.

I just wish people in PA would act less lame and do well by playing the game well rather than resorting to all these low tactics that we constantly witness
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Unread 14 May 2005, 23:32   #10
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Re: New tactic...

Damn its good to be retired & I was really considering coming back but to what.
This is shocking behaviour its a damn right pathentic tactic to use hr have gone about the round in their own peaceful manner as some might say playing fairly.
I hope the sad loser whos using this tactic feels good about himself/herself because you DO need to get out more.
This is totaly bad sportsmanship yes its a war game but boxing can be honourable. (who saw the fight tonight seemed pretty good..... no one mention that idiot tyson cheers )
Nothing more I can say really apart from I hope it stops.
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Unread 15 May 2005, 00:31   #11
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Re: New tactic...

Im going to sue that person for alot of cash.
After all I have copyright on that stuff!

On a more serious note; good to see that someone new is talking over.
Now did it suceed, did anyone quit?
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Re: New tactic...

Honestly?
Yes, 1 person did get quite irate, leave HR IRC and remove himself from the alliance in-game.
PA-Team are being quite understanding on the matter.
For that we are grateful.
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Unread 15 May 2005, 01:01   #13
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Re: New tactic...

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Yes, 1 person did get quite irate, leave HR IRC and remove himself from the alliance in-game.
PA-Team are being quite understanding on the matter.
For that we are grateful.
tbh, not to be shite, but if a person is actually stupid enough to leave the ally, he should atleast wait the 72hours out... noone should just leave the ally without ingame mail from the ally, imo..
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Yes, 1 person did get quite irate, leave HR IRC and remove himself from the alliance in-game.
I'm not sure who's the stupid one: The guy who told him to or the guy who obeyed..
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Re: New tactic...

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Yes, 1 person did get quite irate, leave HR IRC and remove himself from the alliance in-game.
PA-Team are being quite understanding on the matter.
For that we are grateful.
hahahaha, what a ****ing noob tbh.
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Re: New tactic...

Their has to be done some maintenance on the PA servers
so WP 1up and SINND have to disband for 72 ticks
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Unread 15 May 2005, 02:32   #17
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A serious question though if you HAD to try and fake being an hc, who would you fake and why?
maybe it shows some degree of respect in first place no?
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A serious question though if you HAD to try and fake being an hc, who would you fake and why?
maybe it shows some degree of respect in first place no?
NO NO NO NO NOIIOIO NO NNUIHIUB Rinoa!!! Jeez, you come off as an idiot ALOT. This is not the first time i told you this. Stop asking questions. I would fake YOUR HC and get you to leave.
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if I were to fake anything, it would have to be a orgasm
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NO NO NO NO NOIIOIO NO NNUIHIUB Rinoa!!! Jeez, you come off as an idiot ALOT. This is not the first time i told you this. Stop asking questions. I would fake YOUR HC and get you to leave.
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Can you squeeze your cheeks please, I need to stick my tongue further up.
Wouldn't that be...... spread?
oh, I have to look from your point of veiw. Generally caucasion women/men, have small/tight bums. So maybe squeezing actually makes it easier to penatrate.
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Squeeze as in, y'know when you squeeze a little kids cheeks (ON HIS/HER FACE) and go "awww, isn't he/she so cute!"
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Squeeze as in, y'know when you squeeze a little kids cheeks (ON HIS/HER FACE) and go "awww, isn't he/she so cute!"
Hmm, then that poses the question, "Why do you want to french kiss chika?"

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Re: New tactic...

Well, NoS has been sending defences against their own attack fleets - in the purpose of bluffing someone to believe the incomings are covered - that's not the most valorous thing to do either.
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Hmm, then that poses the question, "Why do you want to french kiss chika?"

I think you actually posrep'd me for my post. If you intended on posreping me, excuse me for my idiocy. If in your attempt to negrep me you actually posrep'd me, then tried to negrep me, then please proceed as normal.
I'm fairly sure that he's a card-carrying member of the Rinoa-bashing club. So a pos rep it was from both jerome` and myself.
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Well, NoS has been sending defences against their own attack fleets - in the purpose of bluffing someone to believe the incomings are covered - that's not the most valorous thing to do either.
There's nothing wrong with that, tbh. If the ally that they are attacking falls for that, then it's their own fault.

But IRC server hacking, bot spamming, HC impersonating, fake def calls, etc, all lack a certain amount of honour. Zhukov masquerading as Sid is of course the exception that proves the rule
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Re: New tactic...

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There's nothing wrong with that, tbh. If the ally that they are attacking falls for that, then it's their own fault.

But IRC server hacking, bot spamming, HC impersonating, fake def calls, etc, all lack a certain amount of honour. Zhukov masquerading as Sid is of course the exception that proves the rule
You'd think there's an ingame feature to just mail all your defenders so you nor your galm8's need to bother mailing them each seperatly ... You'd think pple are atleast smart enough to only pull if the one they are defending is telling em to pull or if their own HC confirms that the attacker has recalled

If you then still screw up and pull cause some funny galm8 tricked you then well ... that's your own damn fault then

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Re: New tactic...

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You'd think there's an ingame feature to just mail all your defenders so you nor your galm8's need to bother mailing them each seperatly ... You'd think pple are atleast smart enough to only pull if the one they are defending is telling em to pull or if their own HC confirms that the attacker has recalled

If you then still screw up and pull cause some funny galm8 tricked you then well ... that's your own damn fault then
I hadn't mentioned that - but that fits into the 'it's your own fault for being so gullible' catagory .
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Re: New tactic...

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There's nothing wrong with that, tbh. If the ally that they are attacking falls for that, then it's their own fault.

But IRC server hacking, bot spamming, HC impersonating, fake def calls, etc, all lack a certain amount of honour. Zhukov masquerading as Sid is of course the exception that proves the rule
IRC server hacking is illegal by law. Impersonating someone is not
And there is more funny stuff that I did than just "doing" Sid.
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Re: New tactic...

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There's nothing wrong with that, tbh. If the ally that they are attacking falls for that, then it's their own fault.

But IRC server hacking, bot spamming, HC impersonating, fake def calls, etc, all lack a certain amount of honour. Zhukov masquerading as Sid is of course the exception that proves the rule
Yep, and if the alliance that falls to a spam def call, it's *not* their own fault then? My point was, I find it low.
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NO NO NO NO NOIIOIO NO NNUIHIUB Rinoa!!! Jeez, you come off as an idiot ALOT. This is not the first time i told you this. Stop asking questions. I would fake YOUR HC and get you to leave.
Okay chika ill try not to look like an idiot any more have u any tips?
oh yes swapping alliances and hopping at the first sign of trouble usually works for u and makes u look less of an idiot :eek:
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Yep, and if the alliance that falls to a spam def call, it's *not* their own fault then? My point was, I find it low.
I never said whether or not it was their fault. In fact, I agreed with you that it was dishonourable.
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Okay chika ill try not to look like an idiot any more have u any tips?
oh yes swapping alliances and hopping at the first sign of trouble usually works for u and makes u look less of an idiot :eek:
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Re: New tactic...

ehm i never left previous alliance becuase of incomings or trouble with hostiles. I left because know one actually had a clue how to attack for xp.
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ehm i never left previous alliance becuase of incomings or trouble with hostiles. I left because know one actually had a clue how to attack for xp.
You still left at the first sign of trouble. Other members who weren't particularly happy proceeded to work their arses off and help get a lot of changes implemented. Sure, there had to be some reform, but every alliance has to go through that once in a while.

Besides, XP whoring hasn't worked out to be the great gift from God that you claimed it was around the time you left.
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Re: New tactic...

I wasnt talking about xp whoring, i was simply talking about attacking planets bigger than u on a regular basis. But this isnt theplace for whining about spilt milk, and i dont intend to do so.
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Okay chika ill try not to look like an idiot any more have u any tips?
oh yes swapping alliances and hopping at the first sign of trouble usually works for u and makes u look less of an idiot :eek:
touché ... good one
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Re: New tactic...

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IRC server hacking is illegal by law. Impersonating someone is not
And there is more funny stuff that I did than just "doing" Sid.
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Well, I couldn't be arsed to read futher then the first log and I have to say it didn't amuse me. It's just another 'hey let's make fun out of a newbie while I maintain my old school stylo' ..

Pretty lol indeed
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Well, I couldn't be arsed to read futher then the first log and I have to say it didn't amuse me. It's just another 'hey let's make fun out of a newbie while I maintain my old school stylo' ..

Pretty lol indeed
Whats "pretty lol" is that you label ribs as a n00bie.
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Re: New tactic...

2nd round in a row where this tactic has been used against HR and also fake nicking my nick.

Clearly its zhukov again for his Nos buddies:P

Nothing bad came about from this although it has benifited HR in one way in that any thoughts i had about leaving PA (due to rl) are no longer an issue because f##ks who resort to such tactics just fuel my fire for PA.

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ehm ok

All I see is some kind of irc hero called ribs making fun out of a guy nicked newbie


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ehm ok

All I see is some kind of irc hero called ribs making fun out of a guy nicked newbie


LOL
All I see is some idiot not getting it.
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haha Zhuk my vts interview was better wwe talked about drinking & how you hadto be 21 to join was much more interesting
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big horn I mentioned an idea very simular in the past.
It is a good tactic but without a decent member count it won't really work.
Swapping ingal works a treat just sms members you can really do damage to attackers by trading fleets & working out the most damaging combo & share it with as many of the gal possible sometimes pods work great in def fleets as it does increase the numbers & sometimes makes just enough flak for it to be coverable.
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Dan is right, we play by the book. If we need to take someone we'll do it with ships.
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Hehe yeah i know, it was just a tongue in cheek remark with nos being 1 of the most hostile allies to HR, since they napped Ex 3 weeks ago.
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