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Unread 5 Nov 2004, 02:46   #1
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my annalysis of what ruined a once great game

well before i start i will say flame all you want cause this will be my final round (my final round was about 3 rounds ago but got bored so signed up again) so I don't really care

my annalysis of what ruined a once great game:
1) irc: before irc was a necessity you could attack solo and 8-9/10 you would get through on an attack (r2-r3) now attacking you need to cover almost all planets to have success.
with irc everything is now too coordinated meaning greater chances of galaxy's with many incomings and also greater chances of getting defended against by alliances which brings me to 2)
2) alliances: due to alliances the game has turned into alliance wars not just a simple find a nice target and attack them it all comes down to attack the enemy eve if it's a sucky target.
This also meaning if you are in the wrong galaxy in the wrong round or wrong alliance in the wrong round expect waves of incomings and incomings everyday and the funny thing is people pay for a game where they have to put up with this each day.

This game used to be played on a browser but is now played on irc and the only way to succeed and get a good ranking is if your on the winning alliance for that round

This isn't a thread saying "end irc and alliances now to bring back the game" cause this will never happen, even if pa took down their irc alliances will find their own so the damage has already been done, this is just my analysis of what destroyed a fun and addictive game.

I am sure most the people who still play who played r1,r2,r3 would agree and proof of that is the numbers that used to play this game compared to now.

well flame on
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Unread 5 Nov 2004, 02:49   #2
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Re: my annalysis of what ruined a once great game

most of what you've said seem to be symptoms of the changing player base of the game.

before it was possible to attack on your own because a lot of players wern't that good. nowadays, the level of player has increased so you have to be more involved to do well

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Unread 5 Nov 2004, 02:59   #3
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Re: my annalysis of what ruined a once great game

Well, r1-2-3 had 100+ times the number of players we have now, so "obviously" things were different.
alliances were around and about in r1-2-3 aswell, and tbh they had the univser in a even greater deadlock than what is the situation today.

Basicly you're complaining that people socialise in this game, which is a bit beyond me tbh...
You might want to blame p2p for the current situation, as it certainly helped insipire this "will we improve our playercount?" nonsense.
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Unread 5 Nov 2004, 03:21   #4
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Re: my annalysis of what ruined a once great game

well now that the game is alliance vs allaince or the plurals just means if you are a tough target with little roid interest you have more attackers
ok well it's more alliances that ruined the game but for the simple fact that they are to organised now and it's no longer about roiding and getting nice roids it's kill the enemy or take all his roids
back in the day if a target was to big you choose another now it's all pile on vs one planet meaning the game isn't pvp it's players vs player
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Unread 5 Nov 2004, 10:04   #5
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Re: my annalysis of what ruined a once great game

irc hasn't ruined the game, irc made this game what it is tbh.

Like Idler and mist mentioned above, the reasons for what you complain about has happened is the drop of players. This is mainly because of p2p.

Alliances may have ruined a bit, but like Idler said, it was worse in r1-r3. Alliances has however also helped quite a bit to make this game what it is, atleast for the 'hardcore' players.
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Re: my annalysis of what ruined a once great game

Have you ever been in an alliance? What's the point of playing a _Massive Multiplayer Online Game_ if the only interaction you ever have with the game is just typing numbers in a browser. This game has never been about going solo. If the creators had wanted you to go solo, they would have put you in 1 man gals. If the only way you think the game is fun is by playing alone, you might as well play starcraft, but don't ever touch the multiplayer button in those games :P
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Unread 5 Nov 2004, 14:04   #7
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Re: my annalysis of what ruined a once great game

The game isn't ruined.
Therefore, your entire analysis is worthless, as you started at a false statement...
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Unread 5 Nov 2004, 16:01   #8
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your looking from the wrong perspective. therefore, your just plain wrong. sorry.
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Unread 5 Nov 2004, 16:31   #9
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Re: my annalysis of what ruined a once great game

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2) alliances: due to alliances the game has turned into alliance wars not just a simple find a nice target and attack them it all comes down to attack the enemy eve if it's a sucky target.
This also meaning if you are in the wrong galaxy in the wrong round or wrong alliance in the wrong round expect waves of incomings and incomings everyday and the funny thing is people pay for a game where they have to put up with this each day.
You were obviously never part of a "decent" alliance then, because it was the same in rds 1-3 aswell..

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This game used to be played on a browser but is now played on irc and the only way to succeed and get a good ranking is if your on the winning alliance for that round
When has this been any different?

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This isn't a thread saying "end irc and alliances now to bring back the game" cause this will never happen, even if pa took down their irc alliances will find their own so the damage has already been done, this is just my analysis of what destroyed a fun and addictive game.
It still is fun and addictive

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I am sure most the people who still play who played r1,r2,r3 would agree and proof of that is the numbers that used to play this game compared to now.
*cough* P2P *cough*
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Unread 5 Nov 2004, 17:45   #10
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Re: my annalysis of what ruined a once great game

Day one I entered this game back in round 2 IRC and Alliances were heart and soul of how the game was played. That hasn't changed. The resulting fewer players has now concentrated the use of IRC and Alliances. The end result is a much higher percentage of players use IRC and alliances. Also there is a greater equity in skills now as well, due to so many of the best and worst players leaving the game.
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Re: my annalysis of what ruined a once great game

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2) alliances: due to alliances the game has turned into alliance wars
Good. I remember back in the early rounds when people screamed about Concordium, Blue Tuba, Legion, Fury and all the rest picking on weak targets rather than having the balls to fight each other. Thankfully, the current alliances are now doing this far more and provided you don't bother them or present yourself as a choice target that no one would refuse, they are unlikely to bother you. That seems to me to be an infinately better way of things than the "good old days".
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Unread 7 Nov 2004, 12:01   #12
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Re: my annalysis of what ruined a once great game

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You were obviously never part of a "decent" alliance then, because it was the same in rds 1-3 aswell..
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Re: my annalysis of what ruined a once great game

No decent alliance then. Other than perhaps G-II.
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No decent alliance then. Other than perhaps G-II.
NoS wasn't more than a decent alliance i.e r4?
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don`t ruin his attempt to be witty !
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Re: my annalysis of what ruined a once great game

Less players
Less alliances
Less intake

main problems with PA

One upside is that pa is far less committed than it was which technically makes it more accessible.
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Re: my annalysis of what ruined a once great game

oh my goodness!!! you didnt dare say fang wasnt a decent alliance did you?!?!?!?!?!?!

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Re: my annalysis of what ruined a once great game

Overall, your analysis is teh sh*te
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Re: my annalysis of what ruined a once great game

I think paying for the game was what ruined it, there is a lot of ppl that quited PA cause they can't afford to pay for it.

So less players, less fun!

Rounds 1, 2,3,4 were alot better cause there was realy a big number of players playing PA compared to what we have now.

So forget that analysis you made, you'r quite wrong m8!
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Re: my annalysis of what ruined a once great game

Dont forget that a lot of ppl had many, many multi's and this ahs effected player numbers massively also.
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