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4 May 2005, 19:33
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Internet browser related help required here!
I am using mozilla and the advertisement at the top of the page is incredibly ****ed up. Please help me friends
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4 May 2005, 19:35
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Re: Internet browser related help required here!
I was told by someone whose opinion I cared about that using internet explorer was terrible for spyware and other such random things I have very little interest in but apparently make my computer run slower. As for paying for something on the internet...
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4 May 2005, 19:38
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Re: Internet browser related help required here!
Ever since I upgraded to Opera 8.0, the ads on the top are gone. There's the field where they are supposed to be, but no ads in them, it just says "sponsoder links". I don't mind :-)
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4 May 2005, 19:41
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Dazed and Confused
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JonnyBGood
I was told by someone whose opinion I cared about that using internet explorer was terrible for spyware
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If you have Windows XP and Service Pack 2 installed then use Explorer without worrying about it. Otherwise you'll only have a problem if you're an idiot and click yes to lots of popups.
This is the only computer related thing I actually know. SA teaches me everything in life.
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4 May 2005, 19:44
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Re: Internet browser related help required here!
Use Opera and don't pay then.
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4 May 2005, 19:45
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Re: Internet browser related help required here!
Are you using the latest version of Firefox (1.0.3)? I havent noticed any problems with the adverts.
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4 May 2005, 20:01
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Re: Internet browser related help required here!
I am not, I will download the updated version immediately. Thanks for the practical advice JC
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4 May 2005, 20:17
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Re: Internet browser related help required here!
Firefox is like Mozilla but without the mail/news client and the website creater.
It's also faster and doesn't have an advert at the top of the page.
www.firefox.com
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5 May 2005, 05:55
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Clerk
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Re: Internet browser related help required here!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Black Dog
If you have Windows XP and Service Pack 2 installed then use Explorer without worrying about it.
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This is not true.
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5 May 2005, 08:30
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Heh, Leeds !
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Re: Internet browser related help required here!
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Originally Posted by JonnyBGood
I am using mozilla and the advertisement at the top of the page is incredibly ****ed up. Please help me friends
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I use Mozilla and I haven't noticed any ads, just blank spaces.
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5 May 2005, 10:39
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The Twilight of the Gods
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Re: Internet browser related help required here!
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Originally Posted by Black Dog
If you have Windows XP and Service Pack 2 installed then use Explorer without worrying about it.
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As Dante pointed out, this is not the case.
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5 May 2005, 22:54
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Re: Internet browser related help required here!
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Originally Posted by MrL_JaKiri
As Dante pointed out, this is not the case.
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And to back it up, check Secunia.
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Insanity Prawn Boy!
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Re: Internet browser related help required here!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Black Dog
If you have Windows XP and Service Pack 2 installed then use Explorer without worrying about it.
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if you believe that, then you deserve all the adware and spyware currently infecting you computer
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Re: Internet browser related help required here!
I really hope there was an extreme abundance of sarcasm in that statement by Black Dog.
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Re: Internet browser related help required here!
I actually have never partitipated in these kind of browser wars, but you know what?
I'm using Internet Explorer. hahahahaha! I am. And I call myself "expert". hahahah.
Ok now, I really know it's all bad with IE and all the other products are safer.
However, this also depends on who uses it.
There are more and more exploits and trojans etc coming for Firefox / Mozilla and the lot nowadays and in the near future. Just keep up on reading your favourite geeky news-source.
One thing (and probably the only thing I could think of) in favour of IE is the "comfortable" auto-update function. Even if bugfixed and patches come late, it's SO easy and convenient to apply these patches.
For Firefox / Mozilla, auto-update doesn't always work right now, sometimes the automatic fixes are delayed just a bit (that's what I read). Well ok.
Probably in the end, IE is the most unsecure browser. I agree. But this might change with its popularity. The target for any spammer / virus author that makes most sense is the most used browser, however you might put it.
I am using IE with very strict settings. I've disabled JavaScript for the internet zone. That sucks. Ok.
But then I've edited the "trusted zone" settings to those I'd use for the internet.
Once I visit a site that needs JavaScript for the first time, I gotta add it to my trusted zone. It takes a couple of secs to type the URL once, but that's about it.
Even if there's a cross-site-scripting attack to gain rights for my trusted zone, I don't care, as the trusted zone is still "safe" enough. Well.
Then add a normal user's commen sense, and all is fine.
Don't flame me for this, but just leave me alone and let me choose my favourite browser, thanks.
If I install systems for other people, I even recommend Firefox and install it for them, if I fear they might screw up their systems otherwise.
I just had to say this once in a while!
P.S.: Hey Leshy!
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Heh, Leeds !
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Re: Internet browser related help required here!
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Originally Posted by JetLinus
One thing (and probably the only thing I could think of) in favour of IE is the "comfortable" auto-update function. Even if bugfixed and patches come late, it's SO easy and convenient to apply these patches.
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Re: Internet browser related help required here!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Black Dog
If you have Windows XP and Service Pack 2 installed then use Explorer without worrying about it. Otherwise you'll only have a problem if you're an idiot and click yes to lots of popups.
This is the only computer related thing I actually know. SA teaches me everything in life.
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PS: As pointed out before, not a word of it is true.
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6 May 2005, 10:58
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Re: Internet browser related help required here!
I use IE and i havnt been infected with spyware of any kind for over a year....
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6 May 2005, 11:05
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Re: Internet browser related help required here!
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Originally Posted by JammyJim
I use IE and i don't know if i've been infected with spyware of any kind for over a year....
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6 May 2005, 11:07
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Re: Internet browser related help required here!
opera thread
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6 May 2005, 11:09
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Re: Internet browser related help required here!
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Originally Posted by JetLinus
I actually have never partitipated in these kind of browser wars, but you know what?
I'm using Internet Explorer. hahahahaha! I am. And I call myself "expert". hahahah.
Ok now, I really know it's all bad with IE and all the other products are safer.
However, this also depends on who uses it.
There are more and more exploits and trojans etc coming for Firefox / Mozilla and the lot nowadays and in the near future. Just keep up on reading your favourite geeky news-source.
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Godfather
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Re: Internet browser related help required here!
no no i really havnt
i have
Pestpatrol
Lavasoft Adaware
Bazooka Adware
Spybot Search and Destroy
Grisoft AVG Antivirus
i run them from time to time when i dont need the pc and all they find are the occasional tracking cookies which are no big deal. Everything is updated too before you go 'haha'
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Re: Internet browser related help required here!
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Originally Posted by JammyJim
Pestpatrol
Lavasoft Adaware
Bazooka Adware
Spybot Search and Destroy
Grisoft AVG Antivirus
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6 May 2005, 11:48
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The Twilight of the Gods
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Re: Internet browser related help required here!
[quote=JetLinusProbably in the end, IE is the most unsecure browser. I agree. But this might change with its popularity. The target for any spammer / virus author that makes most sense is the most used browser, however you might put it.[/QUOTE]
All the browsers can have flaws, certainly. However, Firefox is open source and therefore extremely likely to be fixed quickly. Opera has been shown to not be a slouch with updating when there's a hole in the past.
IE still sits around with lots of vulnerabilities.
The problem with IE is not that it's flawed (all software is flawed to begin with) but that Microsoft don't bother to fix it.
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Re: Internet browser related help required here!
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Originally Posted by Dante Hicks
This is not true.
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http://mywebpages.comcast.net/SupportCD/SecureXP.html
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Originally Posted by the above website
Update - People are recommending Firefox over Internet Explorer as a solution to Spyware infections. This is simply not true. Internet Explorer with Service Pack 2 installed provide the exact same level of security. SP2 includes a built-in Pop-up blocker, an ActiveX installation warning system and removes MSJVM from the system. This eliminates all the known security exploits some Spyware applications used to auto install themselves.
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Re: Internet browser related help required here!
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Originally Posted by Boogster
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http://secunia.com/product/11/
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Originally Posted by by the above website
Microsoft Internet Explorer 6.x with all vendor patches installed and all vendor workarounds applied, is currently affected by one or more Secunia advisories rated Highly critical
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Mozilla Firefox 1.x with all vendor patches installed and all vendor workarounds applied, is currently affected by one or more Secunia advisories rated Less critical
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As far as I can tell, they're not in any way connected to firefox, so there's no problems with bias.
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Re: Internet browser related help required here!
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The Secunia database currently contains 0 Secunia advisories marked as "Unpatched", which affects Opera 8.x.
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The Secunia database currently contains 0 Secunia advisories marked as "Unpatched", which affects Opera 7.x.
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For comparison
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Re: Internet browser related help required here!
Anyone with a decent knowledge of computers can get away with using IE as long as their careful.
I use IE.
I have AVG and MS AntiSpyware.
Knowing a little bit about computers, I can confirm what those programs tell me.
I have no spyware.
Admittedly though, all I look at on the web is corporate webmail and these forums.
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Re: Internet browser related help required here!
I use IE with XP Pro SP2 and I've not had any viruses or spyware show up on my weekly scans for a long time. Regardless of which browser you use you can't rely on it alone for safe browsing, I also have NAV2005 and Zone Alarm installed. On the rare occasion that something bad slips past IE, NAV will block it automatically, although I wish it would just bloody do it quietly instead of popping up window telling me about it. I guess it's done that way to make the 'Why do I need anti-virus software?' people think they are getting value for money.
I use IE because I prefer the look and feel of the browser over the alternatives and at the end of the day that's all the matters when there are other applications out there to keep your PC secure and adware free.
Someone brought up browser wars, I still think IE will come out on top in the long run. IE7 is out later this year, apparently with 'improved security features', I bet we'll see a swing back to IE useage. Firefox will have a hard time trying to hold to their 10% of the market by the end of the year target, the 'new browser curiosity' factor can't bring in fresh users forever. Even if they hang on the the people that genuinely prefer FF, those people combined with the small doltish hardcore of users who would never use IE because using a non-MS browser gives them the "I'm different and hence cool" factor, they're still not going to hold 10% by the year end imo.
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Re: Internet browser related help required here!
IE doesn't have tabs, and is therefore a shit browser.
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8 May 2005, 15:55
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Re: Internet browser related help required here!
Tabs alone is a reason to use firefox/opera, everything else for me was just a bonus!
I'm using firefox atm, though that's only because I'm too lazy to re-customize the new Opera. I will someday though.
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Friendly geek of GD :-/
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Re: Internet browser related help required here!
There are some people who really LOVE the new "tabbed" thingy from Trillian (instant messenger). It groups together messages from people just like the browser tabs webpages.
I don't like that.
I don't want a container for my messages. Or for my websites.
That's why I've got my taskbar for.
Move the mousecursor to the bottom of the screen, and I've got it all. That's enough for me.
So no tabs needed.
However it's ok of course if other people prefer them...
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Re: Internet browser related help required here!
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Originally Posted by Emperor Rozenski
I use IE with XP Pro SP2 and I've not had any viruses or spyware show up on my weekly scans for a long time. Regardless of which browser you use you can't rely on it alone for safe browsing, I also have NAV2005 and Zone Alarm installed. On the rare occasion that something bad slips past IE, NAV will block it automatically, although I wish it would just bloody do it quietly instead of popping up window telling me about it. I guess it's done that way to make the 'Why do I need anti-virus software?' people think they are getting value for money.
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IE is inherently less secure than other browsers because it is embedded into the operating system. I've used opera for a very long time now, and I never needed *anything* else to 'rely upon' for safe browsing! I know opera's safety could be because almost no one else uses it, but I've got no problem with that
As for all your installed firewalls and anti-virus programs, those are not more than patches against the bleeding. (I have *never* used an anti-virus program).
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Originally Posted by Emperor Rozenski
I use IE because I prefer the look and feel of the browser over the alternatives and at the end of the day that's all the matters when there are other applications out there to keep your PC secure and adware free.
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That's just habit you know. If you give another browser a chance, you will soon get used to it. After a couple of weeks you will realize you've been missing out! Again, I prefer one safe browser to a wreckage of a browser and three applications running underneath it to make it secure and use up system resources.
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Originally Posted by Emperor Rozenski
Someone brought up browser wars, I still think IE will come out on top in the long run. IE7 is out later this year, apparently with 'improved security features', I bet we'll see a swing back to IE useage. Firefox will have a hard time trying to hold to their 10% of the market by the end of the year target, the 'new browser curiosity' factor can't bring in fresh users forever. Even if they hang on the the people that genuinely prefer FF, those people combined with the small doltish hardcore of users who would never use IE because using a non-MS browser gives them the "I'm different and hence cool" factor, they're still not going to hold 10% by the year end imo.
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Sadly, this is true because microsoft will copy all features from firefox (which firefox in turn stole from opera, who are against software patents) and call it 'innovation'.
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Re: Internet browser related help required here!
I've never had any spyware crap etc. installed on my PC since I've had Firefox on my machine. It's a WHOLE load faster being on modem. Opera is a faster page renderer but Firefox is faster for actually loading pages as a whole for me.
Long live my gateway
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Retired
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Re: Internet browser related help required here!
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Originally Posted by JonnyBGood
I was told by someone whose opinion I cared about that using internet explorer was terrible for spyware and other such random things I have very little interest in but apparently make my computer run slower. As for paying for something on the internet...
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One word - SP2
I asume you are a fairly competant computer user who doesnt click "Yes" the instant some box jumps in your face, and thus antivirus (mandatory!) and SP2 keeps IE clean as a baby's concience. I only use IE, and having MS antispyware running every night since it was launched - it still hasnt found anything.
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Re: Internet browser related help required here!
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Originally Posted by TheRat
I asume you are a fairly competant computer user who doesnt click "Yes" the instant some box jumps in your face, and thus antivirus (mandatory!) and SP2 keeps IE clean as a baby's concience. I only use IE, and having MS antispyware running every night since it was launched - it still hasnt found anything.
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Re: Internet browser related help required here!
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Originally Posted by JonnyBGood
Assumption is the mother of all **** ups
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Re: Internet browser related help required here!
Happy smiley faces are like little children with ice-cream
Sad smiley faces are like little children who have had their ice-cream stolen from them by an older boy
PS Replace ice-cream with virginity to see the hidden message!
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Re: Internet browser related help required here!
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The fact that you need all of these should be telling enough
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JJ added himself to "GD PEADO LIST" there!
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1up on you
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Re: Internet browser related help required here!
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Assumption is the mother of all **** ups
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didnt steven segal say that?
also quite comically someone in my class at uni is called stevan segal
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Re: Internet browser related help required here!
I am not crediting steven seagal with a line that good.
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Re: Internet browser related help required here!
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PS Replace ice-cream with virginity to see the hidden message!
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Very cute
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1up on you
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Re: Internet browser related help required here!
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I am not crediting steven seagal with a line that good.
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Re: Internet browser related help required here!
I doubt he writes his own lines dude.
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Re: Internet browser related help required here!
Dont know why you would bother using IE with adverts. when you can get Firefox, with zero adds.
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Re: Internet browser related help required here!
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didnt steven segal say that?
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Mr. Blobby
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Re: Internet browser related help required here!
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Dont know why you would bother using IE with adverts. when you can get Firefox, with zero adds.
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Because advertising is what keeps a lot of things free or low-cost?
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9 May 2005, 12:14
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Join Date: Dec 2000
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Re: Internet browser related help required here!
I want to disagree with leshy but he'll beat me on the internet.
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10 May 2005, 03:48
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Re: Internet browser related help required here!
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Originally Posted by Qdeathstar
Dont know why you would bother using IE with adverts. when you can get Firefox, with zero adds.
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Now point me to the part of IE where adverts occur. Couldnt find it? Me neither.
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