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Unread 4 Jan 2008, 19:59   #1
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Who is the sympathetic one here?

There is a case in my office at the current time which has nothing to do with me but which is somewhat entertaining.

There are two neighbors. Mr. P and Ms. T.

Mr. P does not like Ms. T in the slightest. Ms. T is not fond of Mr. P though perhaps not without good reason.

Recently Ms. T decided to water her back yard and puposely or inadvertantly sprayed some water into Mr. P's yard.

Mr. P who complains that Ms. T waters her yard in such a fashion as to undermine the soil along the fenceline separating their respective backyards. Mr. P also complains that in the past Ms. T has thrown dirt and other foreign matter over his fence and into his pool.

Mr. P is a middle aged man who cannot walk and is confined to a wheel chair.

Ms. T is a transexual female. She has successfully turned from a caterpillar into a butterfly.

On the day in question, Mr. P decided to retaliate on the watering front by wheeling himself into the backyard, hooking up his hose and shooting water through a knot hole in the fence wetting down Ms. T's patio in the process. Ms. T noticed this happening and became quite upset by this behavior. (I indicated she had become a woman, I did not indicate that she had become a particularly stable woman)

Quick thinking Ms. T grabbed her camcorder and got several minutes of footage on Mr. P spraying her yard with water via the know hole in the fence. This will be exhibit A at the trial.

After filming the tresspass Ms. T stepped out into the backyard and began to yell at Mr. P to stop doing this. Eventually Mr. P did stop wattering through the fence. Mr. P then beckoned Ms. T to come over to the fence where they could converse more-or-less face-to-face. Ms. T was willing to converse so she walked over to the fence where she placed her eye to the knot hole so as to be able to see Mr. P in his wheel chair.

Mr. P responded by pepper spraying Ms. T in the eye through the knot hole.

When the police arrived, at Ms. T's urging, they took statements from both parties. Mr. P, while admitting that he had pepper sprayed Ms. T through the fence, told police that he felt threatened in that Ms. T threatened to poison his plants.

A simple case of plant defense.

Just to make things more pleasant, Mr. P, throughout his entire statement to the police referred to Ms. T exclusive as "it".

When this goes to trial (and I would bet that it will) I will be surprised if the jury doesn't rise up en masse and pummel both individuals.
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Unread 4 Jan 2008, 20:12   #2
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Re: Who is the sympathetic one here?

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Mr. P responded by pepper spraying Ms. T in the eye through the knot hole.
That's pretty hilarious but then again... she was undermining his soil.
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Re: Who is the sympathetic one here?

Bitch had it coming.
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Re: Who is the sympathetic one here?

why doesnt she just get Mr T to go kick his ass?
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Re: Who is the sympathetic one here?

As Mr. T has no evidence of the alleged misdemeanours surely the Jury wont be able to pummel Ms. P? In this instance I'd like to see Dante's legalised revenge idea tested: you'd get a transvestite pepper spraying a wheelchair bound gentleman. That's just not cricket, is it?

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Re: Who is the sympathetic one here?

Maybe they should get married and invite MTV around to make a reality series of their wacky adventures.
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Unread 5 Jan 2008, 00:38   #7
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This seems to be the sort of case that cries out for one of the Judge Judy-type shows. Don't you have some sort of mechanism to alert the media when you have one of these waste-of-taxpayer's-money/bizarre-enough-for-reality-tv cases?

If you don't have such a mechanism then maybe they pay a finder's fee?
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Re: Who is the sympathetic one here?

Tactitus is right. You could collect a share of the profits which would certainly offset if not cover the wasted money. Time to revolutionise the DA's office, DDA.
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Re: Who is the sympathetic one here?

Is there any chance of one of them having to face a million dollar claim or getting sentenced to death?
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Re: Who is the sympathetic one here?

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There is a case in my office at the current time which has nothing to do with me but which is somewhat entertaining.

There are two neighbors. Mr. P and Ms. T.

Mr. P does not like Ms. T in the slightest. Ms. T is not fond of Mr. P though perhaps not without good reason.

Recently Ms. T decided to water her back yard and puposely or inadvertantly sprayed some water into Mr. P's yard.

Mr. P who complains that Ms. T waters her yard in such a fashion as to undermine the soil along the fenceline separating their respective backyards. Mr. P also complains that in the past Ms. T has thrown dirt and other foreign matter over his fence and into his pool.

Mr. P is a middle aged man who cannot walk and is confined to a wheel chair.

Ms. T is a transexual female. She has successfully turned from a caterpillar into a butterfly.

On the day in question, Mr. P decided to retaliate on the watering front by wheeling himself into the backyard, hooking up his hose and shooting water through a knot hole in the fence wetting down Ms. T's patio in the process. Ms. T noticed this happening and became quite upset by this behavior. (I indicated she had become a woman, I did not indicate that she had become a particularly stable woman)

Quick thinking Ms. T grabbed her camcorder and got several minutes of footage on Mr. P spraying her yard with water via the know hole in the fence. This will be exhibit A at the trial.

After filming the tresspass Ms. T stepped out into the backyard and began to yell at Mr. P to stop doing this. Eventually Mr. P did stop wattering through the fence. Mr. P then beckoned Ms. T to come over to the fence where they could converse more-or-less face-to-face. Ms. T was willing to converse so she walked over to the fence where she placed her eye to the knot hole so as to be able to see Mr. P in his wheel chair.

Mr. P responded by pepper spraying Ms. T in the eye through the knot hole.

When the police arrived, at Ms. T's urging, they took statements from both parties. Mr. P, while admitting that he had pepper sprayed Ms. T through the fence, told police that he felt threatened in that Ms. T threatened to poison his plants.

A simple case of plant defense.

Just to make things more pleasant, Mr. P, throughout his entire statement to the police referred to Ms. T exclusive as "it".

When this goes to trial (and I would bet that it will) I will be surprised if the jury doesn't rise up en masse and pummel both individuals.
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Re: Who is the sympathetic one here?

I'm confused why people are implying theyre both to blame, it seems like a fairly one-sided case and the Mr. P guy should get hammered for it
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Re: Who is the sympathetic one here?

How can you say that? His plants had been directly threatened by an ungodly transformer. It should consider itself lucky he used the minimum of force to protect his precious Petunias.
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Re: Who is the sympathetic one here?

Well I would have almost agreed with Nodrog, but I think any wheelchair bound man spraying a tranny via a knothole in the fence deserves special recognition.
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I'm confused why people are implying theyre both to blame, it seems like a fairly one-sided case and the Mr. P guy should get hammered for it
a. he probably greatly exagerated the "she throws shit into my pool" stuff
b. he claims that she threatened him (although I don't see how she had time to)

These things are rarely as one sided as they seem, but yeah the spastic is in the wrong here.
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but then again... she was undermining his soil.
Yeah. Water; that great soil-underminer.

Seriously, wtf?
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Re: Who is the sympathetic one here?

Obviously this was a hate crime!
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Re: Who is the sympathetic one here?

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Yeah. Water; that great soil-underminer.

Seriously, wtf?
when i lived at home a few years ago one of our neighbours left the sprinkler on all night and our greenhouse sank best part of a foot cos it was so soggy, tho this situation was lacking pepper spray and trannies.
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Obviously this was a hate crime!
Against cripples or trannys?
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Re: Who is the sympathetic one here?

Both. Against blacks too. Racist pricks.
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Re: Who is the sympathetic one here?

Aye, both indeed. They should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Tear down the wall!
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Re: Who is the sympathetic one here?

A case clearly that should have gone to arbitration before all of the pepper spray and threats incident occured.

But, pepper spray is assualt, yelling at your neighbour isnt, so that would be why its now in a court of law, not sat behind a table in a quiet room sorting it out point by point and making agreements on both sides asthey go along.

Neither of them were behaving rationally, they were behaving emotionally and in the end the sad thing is that the guy in the wheelchair took it much too far. And is the criminal in this case.
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Re: Who is the sympathetic one here?

how is shouting at someone to stop trying to ruin your garden irational?
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Re: Who is the sympathetic one here?

Shouting is almost always irrational in that it very rarely achieves the desired result. If anything it makes people less co-operative.
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But, pepper spray is assualt, yelling at your neighbour isnt,
Actually that's not clear
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Re: Who is the sympathetic one here?

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how is shouting at someone to stop trying to ruin your garden irational?
Shouting is an indication you've lost control. (raising your voice isn't the same as shouting)
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Re: Who is the sympathetic one here?

Do you often shout at your pupils Mr. Rattle? :]
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Re: Who is the sympathetic one here?

From what's been stated by dda there's no proof of misbehaviour by Ms T*. Mr P has addmitted he broke the law. I'm surpised that Mr P's lawyer's haven't asked him to plea-bargin 'cause that's what always seems to happen on American "justice" TV shows.




*he hasn't mentioned if witnesses have sworn that they heard Ms T screaming at the top of her lungs admitting past wrongs (throwing items into Mr P's garden) and threatening him / his property.

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Re: Who is the sympathetic one here?

Are prisons wheelchair accesable?
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Re: Who is the sympathetic one here?

Having sorted though all of the thoughts in this thread, I quite like the idea of putting it on Judge Judy, however, I think that a Judge Lester show sounds better yet. That way I could gather a greater portion of the revenue generated by the pain of others. It would be the capitalist thing to do.
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