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Unread 15 Jul 2007, 17:59   #1
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laptop hunt

ok so as u can see in the other thread im hunting down a laptop..


got a couple more things first of all i really really REALLY want a alienware, i think its like a similar thing to wanting a aston martin car kinda just the thing to say i got one....

but

i work at comet and seen this its got a 512mb graphics card....

allthough with alienware i dont mind paying a couple hundred more and getting dual 256mb cards in it, any recomendations?
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Unread 15 Jul 2007, 18:10   #2
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Re: laptop hunt

"More money than sense" is the only thing you can really say with gaming laptops.

Secondly, RAM is a terrible thing to use to imply graphics card performance.
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Unread 15 Jul 2007, 18:32   #3
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Re: laptop hunt

That's got a 17" screen, I thought you said you didn't want to have to lug a 17" laptop around anymore? If you're going to settle for a 17" one then I again recommend Novatech
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Unread 15 Jul 2007, 20:18   #4
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Re: laptop hunt

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"More money than sense" is the only thing you can really say with gaming laptops.
Usually, yeah. Although you can get a 14.1" hybrid that runs a Gfg7600, a T7200, and 2GB RAM for 1300e or so, which isn't "too much" for the portability. Depends what you need, of course.

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Secondly, RAM is a terrible thing to use to imply graphics card performance.
Isn't?

There's a huge difference between a card that has 64mb and a card that has 256mb. A 64 can't possibly run a resolution modern screens run, can it? I guess it has more to do with what sort of a card you have and how much RAM will the card realistically "need". A desktop GeForce 8800 will definately enjoy the 512MB ram, especially if you plug it to a large television and run it on a very high resolution. A laptop GeForce 7600 definately doesn't need more than 256.


ps. Didn't we already have this thread?
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Unread 15 Jul 2007, 20:54   #5
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Re: laptop hunt

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Isn't?

There's a huge difference between a card that has 64mb and a card that has 256mb.
I have a 128Mb Radeon 9800 Pro, and it beats the shit out of a Radeon 9200LE I have with 256Mb.

Graphics card manufacturers often put huge amounts of RAM on their terrible cards for people who think "more ram ===== better!"

It's more of a problem with desktop systems than with laptops but the point remains - look at what the cards are first, not the RAM.
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Re: laptop hunt

all LE cards are intrinsically shit though
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Re: laptop hunt

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I have a 128Mb Radeon 9800 Pro, and it beats the shit out of a Radeon 9200LE I have with 256Mb.

Graphics card manufacturers often put huge amounts of RAM on their terrible cards for people who think "more ram ===== better!"

It's more of a problem with desktop systems than with laptops but the point remains - look at what the cards are first, not the RAM.
Yeah. I guess it depends a lot of the card can actually make reasonable use of it's RAM. A GeForce 7600 Go won't need (more than!) 256mb, a 79xx probably could do.

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Re: laptop hunt

ok quick question then

whats better

NVIDIA® Single 7950 512mb GTX
NVIDIA© SLI™ Dual 256mb 7900 GS


and also processors

AMD Turion™ 64 Mobile ML42 2.4GHz 800MHz FSB 512KB L2 Cache
AMD Turion™ 64 Mobile ML37 2.0GHz 800MHz FSB 1MB L2 Cache
Intel® Core™ 2 Duo Processor T7200 2.0GHz 4MB Cache 667MHz FSB
Intel® Core™ 2 Duo Processor T7400 2.16GHz 4MB Cache 667MHz FSB

im going to go for 2gb of ram, and upgrade the speed of the hard disk to 7800 from 5400 rpm


thoughts?
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Re: laptop hunt

personally i would take one of those:

Intel® Core™ 2 Duo Processor T7200 2.0GHz 4MB Cache 667MHz FSB
Intel® Core™ 2 Duo Processor T7400 2.16GHz 4MB Cache 667MHz FSB

depends on the price difference. if only a minor difference take the T7400, otherwise the T7200 is more than fine.

and upgrade the speed of the hard disk to 7800 from 5400 rpm <-- don't do that. it wouldn't bring any significant advantages but it will produce more heat and noise.

can't help on the graphic cards
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Re: laptop hunt

T-series are far superior to whatever AMD has currently. T7200 is probably the optimal price-bang of the even T's, of odds, T7100 or T7300. Hard disk from 7800 (7200 or 4800 rpm?, I'll assume it's 7200) is a downgrade. Otherwise, it's an upgrade, and it'll mainly show on load times.

The SLI is faster on raw benchmarks.
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Re: laptop hunt

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To 7800 from 5400, T
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Re: laptop hunt

There is a sale/ auction on here, in case anyone wants stuff on the cheap

http://www.mcscom.co.uk/section.php?xSec=57
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Re: laptop hunt

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To 7800 from 5400, T
That's what made me wonder. A 7800 rpm laptop hard drive. Nowadays they're usually either 4200, 7200, or 5400.

^^ for contradicting myself in my own post, as the poster below noted.

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Re: laptop hunt

Please link me to any 7800 rpm notebook drive. The common speeds of 2.5" drives are 4200, 5400 and 7200.

The (exclusive) memory amount on a card can not be used as an indicator of the speed compared to another card. There are even cases when more memory means slower 3d speed. Some high-end 3d cards are simply rip-offs (IMHO) by offering features which will barely make any difference for the buyer for higher prices.
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